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Does a trike have to have fog lights at the rear for MOT or is it a nice to have safety feature?
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Old 17-08-2005, 06:26 PM
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Mine hasn't got fog lights so don't think it's an MOT thing but then mine hasn't got hazards either!!
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this has been posted by the msva dude so just copied it for you

Easy one first. you don't need a rear fog lamp on a trike for MoT if the tester says otherwise ask them to look at section 9.1, page 3 of the MoT manual. This lists the lamps required on trikes and quads.

read the msva sticky at the top of the page its full of goo stuff hth
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Thanks for the info, can you tell me also if I have to have Hazard lights
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yes it does...............


read the msva sticky at the top of the page its full of good stuff hth
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Does anyone know how i can install hazard lights as I have indicators but not hazards, can you get a kit or can it be done simply by adding another switch.

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mmm mine never had them for the SVA
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but isnt yours registered as a disabled veichle, borg, sure you mentioned that some where before, so it technically didnt need an sva ...............

hazards for bike trikes were covered in a past issue and have been mentioned often in past techie posts................have a search!!

( correct me if im worng as it does happen often)
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if registered as disabled trike you dont need an msva mankind fmb's trike is and only needs a mot
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No it was SVAed before I had it as a normal trike. I'm going to change it to DLA taxed disabled before the next MOT
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Old 24-08-2005, 06:26 AM
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Does anyone know how i can install hazard lights as I have indicators but not hazards, can you get a kit or can it be done simply by adding another switch.

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alik windrush has knows the items required and also the wiring diagram for the hazards, might be worth giving him a shout
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hazards are required for an MOT regardless of whether it's a registered disabled vehicle or not, and regardless of whether your tester knows this or not

this is also retrospective

(I say this cos the law for cars is not so retrospective, my MG doesn't need to have em fitted cos it wasn't built with any, this is also the case for seatbelts believe it or not)

so if you didn't have em fitted before - by LAW you have to have em fitted now

if your tester has never failed you for not having hazard lights then he's not up-to-date with the law and that's his problem, you are luckily getting away with it, but one day someone will tell him (an auditer or summat) then you'll be failed.
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Hmmmmm are you sure ? I went back and checked what MSVA Chris said in his other thread and he reckons hazards are not required if vehicle was built before a certain date, I know I should have cut n pasted the quote really but I forgot and now cant be arsed to go back and search all over again....
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Hmmmmm are you sure ? I went back and checked what MSVA Chris said in his other thread and he reckons hazards are not required if vehicle was built before a certain date, I know I should have cut n pasted the quote really but I forgot and now cant be arsed to go back and search all over again....

no I'm never sure lol, I'm just going by what Alik told us (IIRC). I thought it wouldn't be retrospective, but Alik assured us it was, so we had hazards fitted to both trikes.
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Old 24-08-2005, 09:17 AM
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I've tried to cut n paste the quotes and cant bloody do it for some reason, but if you go into the MSVA thread then search this thread for 'Hazards' the quotes come up. have a look and see...
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no I'm never sure lol, I'm just going by what Alik told us (IIRC). I thought it wouldn't be retrospective, but Alik assured us it was, so we had hazards fitted to both trikes.
thats true but when we got the trike MOT's the guy didnt even ask about hazards
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prehaps it has something to do with the date it was MSV'd
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I've tried to cut n paste the quotes and cant bloody do it for some reason, but if you go into the MSVA thread then search this thread for 'Hazards' the quotes come up. have a look and see...
here's the quote

Vehicles first registered before 01 April 1986 are exempt hazard warning requirements so you should be ok.

but he also says that he isn't sure and needs to get an MOT manual to check - we await clarification with bated breath - no - can't wait lol, I'll check out the MOT regs. on their site!
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thats true but when we got the trike MOT's the guy didnt even ask about hazards
usually these guys know stuff all about trike regs, and you can get away with lotsa things, doesn't answer what the law requires tho
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Vehicles first registered before 01 April 1986 are exempt hazard warning requirements so you should be ok.

but he also says that he isn't sure and needs to get an MOT manual to check - we await clarification with bated breath - no - can't wait lol, I'll check out the MOT regs. on their site!
does that mean the original registation of the bike or the re-registation of the trike???
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VOSA want me to pay lotsa money for the manual so I can't find out the answer
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Ring Chris and ask him... his number or his office number is on here somewhere, he doesnt mind ,
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OK tis all clear !!!!!!!!!!!1

But as mine is registered in 2001, I will need them, so I await someones help in telling me (politely) what I need.

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A hazard warning relay switch from 'motorworld' wired into the feed from your flasher relay switch, or direct to the outputs from your indicator switch. Depending on what type of flasher relay you have. There not that hard to wire in when you see the thing. BUT does it have to have an illuminated switch or idiot light.

Ah now also do you need a indicator is on warning/Idiot light as well. Or is a high beam indicator the only warning light you need ?
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Old 24-08-2005, 11:43 AM
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Does a trike have to have fog lights at the rear for MOT or is it a nice to have safety feature?

I've just had my trike M.O.T'd and if the vehicle is registered prior to 1985 it does not require HAZARDS, If registered (or year of manufacture AFTER April 1st 1980 then you DO need foglights at the rear.

I have a Alfa Romeo cluster on my trike and the fog light is built in the left hand side, but as they pointed out on the MOT it has to be in the centre or on the right. I smiled sweetly and got me t**s out (no seriously) they let it go.

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Ah. Another wise woman that agrees with the 'if it looks like its gonna fail, show some skin' method of MOTing
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just another point, if hazards are fitted , they must be useable with and without the key in the ignition
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Ah now also do you need a indicator is on warning/Idiot light as well.
you have always needed a warning for indicators if you cannot see them from the riding position. You can get away with audible for cars, but not sure if this would work for trikes
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you have always needed a warning for indicators if you cannot see them from the riding position. You can get away with audible for cars, but not sure if this would work for trikes

I can see the blinkers on the mudguards no probs
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I've just had my trike M.O.T'd and if the vehicle is registered prior to 1985 it does not require HAZARDS, If registered (or year of manufacture AFTER April 1st 1980 then you DO need foglights at the rear.

I have a Alfa Romeo cluster on my trike and the fog light is built in the left hand side, but as they pointed out on the MOT it has to be in the centre or on the right. I smiled sweetly and got me t**s out (no seriously) they let it go.

Hope this helps

The SVA man said a fog light was not needed. Geez it just gets more confusing
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