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Old 27-10-2016, 03:05 AM
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If so, what's it like?
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iirc there's a couple of beehive pubs in bradistan, one I can think of is the new beehive inn on westgate www.newbeehiveinn.co.uk iirc Mortis of this parish is in that neck of the woods why not msg him
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Old 28-10-2016, 05:31 AM
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I believe that's the one. My Brother apparently has just sunk his pension fund into a partnership in buying this place!!!!
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I believe that's the one. My Brother apparently has just sunk his pension fund into a partnership in buying this place!!!!
Is it going to be a biker pub???
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Just what we need a Muslim Biker pub....... Yet another Ewokandtuck Estate Agents victory.....
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Is it going to be a biker pub???
I severely doubt it...one for the Hipsters I think! Who ever they are???
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Just what we need a Muslim Biker pub....... Yet another Ewokandtuck Estate Agents victory.....
Nowt to do with me! This is one I think I will well walk way from....
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How to become £1millionaire in the pub trade?
Start with at least £2million, then you'll have something left by the time it ends in tears


Investing in a pub business......... a tried and tested method of losing your money, ask any ex steelworker or mineworker who invested their redundancy money in a pub lease, ffs even the the shareholders in the likes of punch taverns are losing money. This is where EW&T inc will make a killing.
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Old 29-10-2016, 11:26 AM
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Investing in a pub business......... a tried and tested method of losing your money, ask any ex steelworker or mineworker who invested their redundancy money in a pub lease, ffs even the the shareholders in the likes of punch taverns are losing money. This is where EW&T inc will make a killing.
The former lawyer for Punch Taverns is now the pub regulator who is supposed to help publicans take 'Premises only' leases as tied pubs get ripped off on beer prices. How have the pub owners and brewery chains responded, by telling them that a 'premises only' lease will be a three times or more their normal rent.... Even Ewokandtuck rarely (EAT dictionary definition = mostly) wouldn't do that.....
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The former lawyer for Punch Taverns is now the pub regulator who is supposed to help publicans take 'Premises only' leases as tied pubs get ripped off on beer prices. How have the pub owners and brewery chains responded, by telling them that a 'premises only' lease will be a three times or more their normal rent.... Even Ewokandtuck rarely (EAT dictionary definition = mostly) wouldn't do that.....
We would if we could get away with it....
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Too many fools dive headlong into the pub trade taking leases on premises designed to fleece them of their money. I'm aware of a former colleague of mine who decades ago bought outright a country pub, then spent years fighting the pub trade in court to keep it a freehouse. He eventually won but there's no way I'm paying £4+ a pint in his pub to compensate for his higher wholesale beer prices.
I'm also aware of several pub managers of a certain tadcaster brewery who are working 100hrs+ a week for NMW, the owner of said brewery is renowned for walking into pubs unannounced and sacking the managers on the spot for no real reason
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Most of the pubs where I live are either closed or changing tenants faster than an Essex girls mind. The cost of beer in a pub is excessive and their is generally feck all atmosphere in a council estate pub so I'm not surprised. It's cheaper to drink at home and you won't get done for drink driving, drunk and disorderly or any of the other misdemeanors that you can commit when out in public pissed.....
Also you don't have far to go if you need a piss (public urination is an offence) and to bed......
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Been there, done that, went bankrupt

Brewery charged 35% more for the beer than what I could get it for from the wholesaler.

Normal markup for beer lager is about 35% and that's all the clientele in council estate pubs want to drink, FFS, if anyone asked for a bottle of WKD, they thought they were going upmarket.

Trouble is people see cash going over the counter and think well that's all profit isn't it??

Council estate pub, all they want to do is drink cheap beer/lager, but what they do is go down the town to weatherspoons for the cheap stuff and then roll back at 11 pm think they can then drink a couple of pints till 2 in the morning and then stagger off to their beds.

Plus my original pub chain sold my tenancy off to some property management company down south who had 1 regional manager looking after 120 pubs in the North East and Scotland.

It is possible to make a pub pay, but it has to be a foody pub and the landlord has to have the freehold and it becomes much harder work, as tenants you have no chance.
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I haven't been in the New Beehive for a long time as the previous landlord let his standards slip and the beer was terrible. It used to be a really good pub and was (probably still is) lit by gas lamps which gave it a really good atmosphere. I hope your brother and his partners don't rip out the old furniture and bar and "modernise" it as it spoil what was a great pub in its time. Get the beer right and it will prosper again.
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I haven't been in the New Beehive for a long time as the previous landlord let his standards slip and the beer was terrible. It used to be a really good pub and was (probably still is) lit by gas lamps which gave it a really good atmosphere. I hope your brother and his partners don't rip out the old furniture and bar and "modernise" it as it spoil what was a great pub in its time. Get the beer right and it will prosper again.
The impression I get is that he is a "sleeping partner". It apparently has been taken over by a couple of women that ran/run a corporate entertainments business in London. That's where my brother lives and met them through his work as a Sales Training Company!!

The women are apparently local lasses and know the pub well, and intend to keep the Olde Worlde décor, but concentrate on promoting the "live Entertainment" side of it. However, Having been down in London for a while I don't think London "Up Market" Operetta type entertainment would go down too well in Bradford?
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The pub near me had it's regulars who would be in there all night but it was very 'clicky' and if you didn't belong to one of the groups you might as well be sitting in the park. The local pissheads used to hang around the front door because the toilets were downstairs and the bar upstairs, so they could nip in and use them but this put some customers off. The landlord started locking the door and only letting paying customers in but made it hard as you had to stand banging on the door till he came down and the pissheads just pissed in the bushes or doorway. It's under new management (again) I'll just see howw long they last. The next nearest pub is now an Islamic centre.....
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The impression I get is that he is a "sleeping partner". It apparently has been taken over by a couple of women that ran/run a corporate entertainments business in London. That's where my brother lives and met them through his work as a Sales Training Company!!

The women are apparently local lasses and know the pub well, and intend to keep the Olde Worlde décor, but concentrate on promoting the "live Entertainment" side of it. However, Having been down in London for a while I don't think London "Up Market" Operetta type entertainment would go down too well in Bradford?
Yes, they used to have quite a bit of entertainment which was very good. I believe Oasis played there just before they hit the big time.

Anyway, keep the pub exactly as it is and just get a decent cellar person in.
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Just a quick update for you. An old friend of mine came up for my stag night on Saturday and booked into the Beehive. He was not impressed with the mucky bedsheets and cut his losses and booked into the Jury inn instead.

Anyway, I will probably pay it a visit this weekend and let you know what I think.
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Just a quick update for you. An old friend of mine came up for my stag night on Saturday and booked into the Beehive. He was not impressed with the mucky bedsheets and cut his losses and booked into the Jury inn instead.

Anyway, I will probably pay it a visit this weekend and let you know what I think.
Thanks, mate. I was only talking to my brother yesterday, and he was having problems trying to buy it from the landlord. He was saying that he was getting abusive texts from the vendor (not a good way to sell a business!) any way he seems to be hell bent on buying the place. I said to him he'd be better off buying it and running it as a brothel!....
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I was in there last night with my fiancee, sister and brother in law and it was just as I remembered it. In other words, a proper pub that just needs a specialist company to go in and renovate it properly by keeping all of the original features and just giving it a tidy up. The stove in the main bar and the open fire in what was the games room but now seems to be a second room were very welcome on a cold night and the beer was back up to its usual good standards. I hope your brother and his business partners can get it back to its much loved status among beer lovers.

If your brother and business partners do modernise it and turn it into an upmarket hipster joint, I will personally hunt them down and give them a good telling off
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I was in there last night with my fiancee, sister and brother in law and it was just as I remembered it. In other words, a proper pub that just needs a specialist company to go in and renovate it properly by keeping all of the original features and just giving it a tidy up. The stove in the main bar and the open fire in what was the games room but now seems to be a second room were very welcome on a cold night and the beer was back up to its usual good standards. I hope your brother and his business partners can get it back to its much loved status among beer lovers.

If your brother and business partners do modernise it and turn it into an upmarket hipster joint, I will personally hunt them down and give them a good telling off
I wil pass on your findings. Thanks for the input, mate. I just hope he isn't ploughing good money after bad. What is the area like? Is it the sort of area that will attract the hipster type?
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This pub used to be a hole and was for many years.
The kind of pub you didn't want to stop at even though you needed a piss.
With new managers and a full makeover its now doing great food and ales and packed out the door every night of the week. Not many pubs can say that?
We went for some posh nosh a couple of weeks ago and its bloody good !
From a kin hole to a huge success within a very short space of time.

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I wil pass on your findings. Thanks for the input, mate. I just hope he isn't ploughing good money after bad. What is the area like? Is it the sort of area that will attract the hipster type?
It's on the outskirts of the city centre and just on the edge of what was the red light area. It was once very popular with the CAMRA brigade who appreciate good ale and fine architecture. A friend of mine from Manchester loved it and said if it was in Manchester, it would be packed.

Bradford city centre was virtually dead for some time as regards to the pub and club scene but is slowly making a comeback. In fact, the "Northern Quarter" (playing on the Manchester vibe) is becoming very popular and is not far away. Bradford Brewery opened up last year and is literally over the road so if you could tap into that whole scene, the Beehive could become a gold mine.
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It's on the outskirts of the city centre and just on the edge of what was the red light area. It was once very popular with the CAMRA brigade who appreciate good ale and fine architecture. A friend of mine from Manchester loved it and said if it was in Manchester, it would be packed.

Bradford city centre was virtually dead for some time as regards to the pub and club scene but is slowly making a comeback. In fact, the "Northern Quarter" (playing on the Manchester vibe) is becoming very popular and is not far away. Bradford Brewery opened up last year and is literally over the road so if you could tap into that whole scene, the Beehive could become a gold mine.
Thanks for that, Mate. My brother is a Salesman and therefore an eternal optimist!!!
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