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Old 15-12-2015, 07:50 PM
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I got caught by a mobile speed van a couple of months back. Feck me I could not believe how much these feckin fines have gone up to. 100 and three plenty points or 84 and a 4 hour awareness course, all for 36 in a 30 zone.
On the bright side, proving that my Harley can actually break the speed limit has doubled the value of my bike.
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Old 15-12-2015, 08:54 PM
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Scamera vans, don'tcha just love 'em. Bad luck getting caught dude.
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Old 15-12-2015, 10:58 PM
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100 and three plenty points or 84 and a 4 hour awareness course, all for 36 in a 30 zone.
As you were 20% over the limit I would say that's not bad. Some constabularies would push for much stiffer penalties.
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Old 15-12-2015, 11:15 PM
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I know from experience that 36 in a 30 means that if you'd been 1mph slower you wouldn't have had to pay!

However, take heart - where I live it cost me more to do the course and avoid the points, than it would have to pay the fine!
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Old 16-12-2015, 12:33 PM
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Apparantly 34's the magic no. now BG.
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It may depend on the policy of the force in whose area it happens. I think here it's still 10% over plus 2.

Not that I'm taking any more chances.........
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Old 16-12-2015, 10:28 PM
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I don't think I will be taking any chances for a while, it was an expensive ride out.
These awareness courses are very popular however, the one I was on was packed and that was the second one of the day.
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I don't think I will be taking any chances for a while, it was an expensive ride out.
These awareness courses are very popular however, the one I was on was packed and that was the second one of the day.
Done two ....... first one was ok, the second one had sanctimonious prat (you have to contribute to the discussion ) delivering it, not even any biscuits or coffee.

BUT the licence is still clean
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Old 18-12-2015, 08:39 PM
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The one I went to was good - a lorry driver said that he wouyld probably end up there again because he thought that the law was stupid that made lorries do 50 on a National Spped limit (60) road - as it just made the car drivers cross and more likely to overtake when it wasn't safe. - It's absolutely true, there's a road near us where there are really bad accidents, almost always a car overtaking a lorry!

You could see the copper taking the course agreed but he couldn't say so, but he said it was an 'interesting point'.
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There was talk a while back about increasing the speed for HGVs on A & B roads to 60.

Haven't seen anything since though, although it makes perfect sense so probably won't happen...
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Its been a while since I got done for speeding.
Got baited by an unmarked black Subaru WRX leaving a 40 limit to national speed limit.
Then we played for 3 miles with twat here not realisng it was bill behind me until he blinded me with a wall of blue flashy light things behind me when I was pulling hard away from him again.

Good job I wasn't riding the Busa.
The car was limited at 155mph.
Oooh so thats what the traction control, power limiter sounds like.

I played a blinder and got let off lightly. Although I know how to play it when stopped I was still very lucky. I've changed my car and bike since.

I am much more focused now.
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We've got those Red Routes round here.
If caught speeding you get twice the fine and twice the bonus points
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Old 27-12-2015, 12:47 AM
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It may depend on the policy of the force in whose area it happens. I think here it's still 10% over plus 2.

Not that I'm taking any more chances.........
In Scotland it's only as much as 1mph over the posted limit. It's being piloted up here, so suppose it,'ll roll out everywhere else at some point.
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Speedos are not accurate enough to measure 1 mile per hour difference consistently, so how are you expected to remain under the speed limit without causing an obstruction and getting nicked for that instead?
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Old 27-12-2015, 10:23 PM
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The problem is, the technology the camera vans and police will be accurate to clock your speed. I suppose the test will be when it goes to court for the first time to be contested on the argument that vehicle speedos's are not that accurate currently. Suppose it's wait and see. Not good though.
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By law speedos cannot under-read but can over-read. For example if I set my works van cruise control at 74 MPH the sat-nav, GPS camera and tracker have me doing exactly 70 MPH.
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All the speed cameras in the county were turned off a few years ago but they still use scamera vans. With huge cutbacks to police funding there are even less patrol cars out on the road. But the bill here are pretty laid back about stuff like small plates, race pipes and such. Ive been followed through town several times by full traffic cars and I've got a small plate, race only Yoshi pipe and mirror visor on a Simpson lid and never been pulled. Whereas some counties are obsessive about this kinda stuff.
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Old 28-12-2015, 12:47 PM
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Strima is spot on, no under reading is allowed but over reading can be huge.

Under EU regs an indicated 70 mph could be obtained when the vehicle is actually doing 57 mph.
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The irony is that the camera vans are funded by the safety camera partnerships, which in turn are self funded by the revenue generated by the speed awareness courses, so if every guilty driver opted to take the fine/points instead of the SAC, the SCP's would run out of money and not be able to operate the camera vans etc. Which hypothetically would in the long term, reduce the number of drivers caught speeding
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The only real answer is don't speed where there is cameras, and only speed where there is unlikely to be coppers or camera vans in place!
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Old 29-12-2015, 09:53 PM
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Like in 30 and 40 mph limits and in road works.
Anywhere near a weekly bike meet or a major bike event.
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We've had roadworks on the M1 here for 18 months with 50mph limit and specs cameras. Average speed cameras in other words.
Sitting at 50mph with cruise control on in the car and just watch the dickheads speeding. Not 54 or 55mph but really speeding.
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Anyone ridden with no plate?
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Not advisable as the cops will just stop you instead.....
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Old 30-12-2015, 02:03 PM
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Had a flip one once on a FZR1280 street fighter. You pressed a button on the bars and the bottom half flipped up to reveal the letters 4Q.

Was just for show though, I'm figured the evasion fine would be worse than the speeding one.

Odd. When I had it on the bike, everyone said they wanted it. When I tried to flog it at an autojumble it got no interest whatsoever.
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They'll slap a 100 fixed penalty on ya for no plate
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Old 31-12-2015, 10:37 AM
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We've had roadworks on the M1 here for 18 months with 50mph limit and specs cameras. Average speed cameras in other words.
Sitting at 50mph with cruise control on in the car and just watch the dickheads speeding. Not 54 or 55mph but really speeding.
Most of those dickheads cant work out what average actually means. They slow when they get to a camera. Usually Beemer drivers
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Most of those dickheads cant work out what average actually means. They slow when they get to a camera. Usually Beemer drivers
I came to the same conclusion.
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Old 31-12-2015, 08:41 PM
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They'll slap a 100 fixed penalty on ya for no plate
I've only ridden twice with no plate for the simple reason it fell off because I couldn't get the bracket design quite right. I sorted it the end.
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A biker is pulled over by a policeman. The policeman approaches the biker.
Id there a problem officer?
The officer says, sir you were speeding. Can I see your license please?
The biker replies, I would give it to you but I don't have one.
You don't have one.
The biker responds, I have have lost it 4 times for drink driving.
The policeman is shocked, I can I see your vehicle registration papers please?
Sorry I can't do that.
The policeman says why not?
The biker replies I stole this bike.
The officer says, stole it?
The biker states yes and I killed the owner.
At this point the officer is getting irate. You what?
She is over the hedge, if you want to see.
The officer looks at the man and slowly backs away to his car and calls for back up. Five police cars show up, surrounding the bike. A senior officer slowly approches the bike, clasping a half drawn gun.
The senior officer says, sir could you step off your vehicle please.
The biker, steps off his bike. Is there a problem sir?
One of my officers told me that you have stolen this bike and murdered the owner.
Murdered the owner?
The officer replies yes, could you show me where shouts over the hedge you put the body?
The biker shows the behind the hedge, revealing nothing but a field.
The officer says, is this your bike?
The biker says yes it is and hands him over the registration documents.
The officer, understandably, is quite stunned. One of my officers claims that you don't have a driving licence.
The biker digs in his pocket revealing a wallet and hands it to the officer. The officer opens the wallet and examines the the licence. He looks quite puzzled. Thank you sir. One of my officers told me you did not have a license, stole this bike and murdered the owner.
The biker replied. I bet the lying bastard told you I was speeding as well.
Happy New year everyone, ride safe :-)
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