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Old 25-11-2013, 02:39 PM
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not wanting to ignite the women in the mag debate (guess it will) but here is a thought, after seeing the owner of the featured bike, me thought it looks natural, he sorted complemented the bike that he had built, so why not photo the owner with the bike and not the model.
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Old 28-11-2013, 09:20 PM
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We did actually try that years ago, I persuaded the powers that be, to keep the totty off the cover bikes at least... we did it for three issues I think... sales dropped like a stone... sadly totty, tits and all the bits seem to go with the bikes, it certainly is the case at rallies ... its a lifestyle thing...
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Old 28-11-2013, 09:40 PM
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Speaking as a female - I remember when that experiment was tried and you can't argue with circulation figures if you want the mag to continue BUT - it is irritating when you can't see the bike for the body!
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Old 28-11-2013, 10:19 PM
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IMHO it depends on the bike.

If it's a mega bucks show bike I don't mind a lightly attired lady in my line of view.

When it's a shed built work of love I'd rather see the owner/builder with it. The bike should reflect their personality.

I do understand it can be a problem for the ladies working on or reading the mag, but my good lady likes to compare herself to the girls in the piccies, and is often uncomplimentary about them.

Funny ol' world innit.
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I also recall having the more "normal" women being used as models in mag with bikes.
Normal as in not pin thin glam models
I liked that but it seems they had a lot of abuse via forums/letters etc
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Old 29-11-2013, 12:58 AM
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I photograph and film a lot of girls/women. The professional models are doing a job and they do work bloody hard for their money. Some do it because they love it and get a kick out of it. Others do it as a means to an end. Either way I have a great deal of respect for them. I have worked with some of the best girls known on the glamour and fetish scene, been a joy to work with all of them.

The private work that I do, involves a hell of a lot of "Normal" women. Women that have had children and women that work a full time job besides doing a bit of modelling for their own reasons. I meet a huge variety of women through the fetish scene. Some are absolutely stunning without making any effort. Others have to hide the ravages of time with a bit of make up, or they ask me to hide certain bits that may not look quite so good on film or image.

Got to say, it takes guts for any girl/woman to get in front of a camera. Professional model or otherwise. She will never know what most of the viewers of her pictures or film will think of her looks or her efforts. Sometimes she may get very complimentary remarks or even fan mail. Most of the girls get no credit for what they do, which is a great shame.

As blokes we can make or break a girls fortune. We can destroy her confidence and I dare any of you blokes to deny that he has never made a derogatory comment about a woman at some time. I know for certain that whatever way you portray a girl in film or images, somebody will slate her for being too fat, too short, blond or redhead, too many or not enough tattoos.

All comes down to personal preferences, but that does not give any of us blokes the right to slate those that do not appeal to any one of us individually. Those that write nasty comments on public forums about a girl for the way she looks, should maybe take a long hard look in the mirror first. Lets face it guys, bikers in general are not usually known for their sartorial elegance, personal hygene or eloquence. Not so long ago it was customary for a huge percentage of us to wear "Originals" and delight in the shock factor of looking like the inside of a dustbin.

Pictures of bikes with half naked girlies draped across them have been with us for years, hopefully that will never change. For everyone that complains about a girls leg covering a part of the engine they want to see, there will be a great many more that love the same girls backside or boobs.

Don't blame the girl for that, blame our culture. Those pictures with the girl in them may be the reason that a particular issue sells really well. Without good sales, we all lose our monthly treat of a new issue.

Perhaps before you complain about an image, you could use your time to compose a letter to the editor, without slating anybody, including the model, asking for what you would like to see in the mag. A polite well written letter will get a more positive response than a scribbled note slagging somebody off. Making nasty or rude comments about a model for any reason, does nobody any good. Least of all the person making such nasty comments.

Think about it guys. You want pretty and happy girls posing for our lecherous delight, then have some respect for the girls and their efforts.

Just my opinion based on many years experience working with some absolutely wonderful women.

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I agree the bike should be more prominent than the girls boobs... and hopefully the girl is posed well so over a variety of shots the whole bike is seen.... but girls and bikes... well its how its always been...
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Well put Chopper and i always ask any bloke,or women for that matter,who feel the need to post neg comments on another person to put up or shut up.
Get your kit off and lets see how perfect you are
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Well put Chopper and i always ask any bloke,or women for that matter. Get your kit off and lets see how perfect you are
each to their own LOL
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Well put Chopper and i always ask any bloke,or women for that matter,who feel the need to post neg comments on another person to put up or shut up.
Get your kit off and lets see how perfect you are
As an experienced fetish photographer, I have taken pictures and filmed many things that would make your hair curl. Women doing things to themselves and other women is great, (And I get to watch!!). Couples shagging or doing things to each other is quite normal.

However, I draw the line at taking pictures of just blokes with no clothes on.

Standards must be maintained you know old chap.

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I seem to recall one of the magazines doing a double sided centrefold where one side had the bike with the builder behind it and the other side had the bike with a model, topless or not. That way, you could choose which side you put up if you wanted to. If it's going up in the club house toilets, it's the side with the model* or if it's going up in the garage to provide inspiration, it's the bike and builder.

This may have been a one off or I could just have imagined it.



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Old 29-11-2013, 08:19 PM
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At one point 100% did a double sided calendar for exactly that reason...
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Hmmm anyone remember the issue where I printed the 'Odgie's Knob ' article... feckin funny...
Not when the boss saw it in print though...
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At one point 100% did a double sided calendar for exactly that reason...
Oh, it might have been that I was recalling...

Still, it's a very good idea
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I find totty draped over a bike annoying...

but that's only because I'm past my sell by date.
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Old 29-11-2013, 10:52 PM
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I find totty draped over a bike annoying...

but that's only because I'm past my sell by date.
Don't worry most of us on here are old and knackered.
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Don't worry most of us on here are old and knackered.
Harry, last time I saw you, you were positively fucked mate. So much so that I wondered if you were going to bother ordering a turkey for Christmas.

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I'm very close to 70, I love women, dressed, undressed, as long as they have a sense of humour..I would enjoy meeting Jo Brand or that bird with the amazing blue eyes in "coupling" and Mariella Frostrup, and of course Felicity Kendal.

I'm not too keen on men though.

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Harry, last time I saw you, you were positively fucked mate. So much so that I wondered if you were going to bother ordering a turkey for Christmas.

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Sadly I am of an age that remembers bike magazines that never featured women in a state of undress, the magazines were all about bikes in them days.
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Sadly I am of an age that remembers bike magazines that never featured women in a state of undress, the magazines were all about bikes in them days.
I have a cupboard full of those, all dating from the 50s. Incredible reading
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:21 PM
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Somehow, I think some of you are missing the point a little... when we created 100%Biker, its was not just as a Custom bike magazine, but a lifestyle magazine. Thats the rallies, the clubs, the bikes the jokes, the music and the people... yeah and the tits ...Obviously the bikes are a massive amd most important part... but not the whole ...
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I don't see that Chopper's long post above was really necessary - no-one was slagging off the girls who appear in the pictures, Pale rider was just saying that he likes to see the owner with the bike rather than a model - seems to me a perfectly valid point of view even though it's unlikely to happen.
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I don't see that Chopper's long post above was really necessary - no-one was slagging off the girls who appear in the pictures, Pale rider was just saying that he likes to see the owner with the bike rather than a model - seems to me a perfectly valid point of view even though it's unlikely to happen.
Very true..but if we only made posts that were necessary I think my post count would go down to two.

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That was me being polite - don't knock, it doesn'y happen all that often - the word I really wanted was 'un-called for'.
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I don't see that Chopper's long post above was really necessary - no-one was slagging off the girls who appear in the pictures, Pale rider was just saying that he likes to see the owner with the bike rather than a model - seems to me a perfectly valid point of view even though it's unlikely to happen.
The points I made were valid to those that have any experience of modelling or photography. Plus those that moan about a girls looks, for whatever reason. In your rush to criticise my post I think you completely missed what was said.

Was there really any point to your post?

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I thought Chopper was replying to Lowrider's comment on models being insulted.

Surely that makes it relevant to the conversation.
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I thought he was just talking bollocks as usual.....

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