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Old 02-10-2013, 08:37 AM
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Im starting another trike build, you might be surprised to hear that its another budget build, target total price is sub 1000. well on target as already picked up an engine, axle and some rear wheels for 184

knocked up a headstock, yet to order steel etc


anyway its going to be a compact build, probably about 1400mm wide at the back, fairly short and stumpy

lots of nods towards the hotrod world, both brakes on the feet, clutch and gears on suicide shifter. ultra clean and minimal

99% certain it will have a leading link front end, but cant decide if I should go with a narrowish front, ie 100-120 bike tyre??? or a 180ish rear wheel fitted in the front like my last build

or go with 10j matching rim in the front to match the rears and run a car tyre?

worried that all 3 tyres the same size might look a bit cartoony? bit like the lil offroad trike things?

any thoughts or input greatly appreciated? as once I go down the path of the front end, I cant really be going back too easy
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:04 AM
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I like the hotrod idea, skinny front wheel harking back to a sort of sit up and beg front end ....then again lots of trikes seem to have skinny front wheels hmmmmmmm would need to see how it sort of mocks up ....get an overall idea of how it looks.
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yeah thats what Im struggling with, will have to try just placing tyres and seeing what it looks like

if I go skinny then I fancy springers with new rockers made to sort the trail, or wide I will make a LL front end.

back end is wide steel rims with hopefully them moon discs as I love that look.
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depends if you want it to go round corners...
with a pair of 10J's on the back i'd bung a 180 in the front....
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yeah I was wondering how that much rubber on the road would affect things, would a 295 50 15 front be a bit too grippy LOL

the last trike was perfect, with 295 50 15 rears and a 180 front tyre, maybe I should stick to what I have learnt and proven, plus the fact that you backed it up.

one of the rims arrived with a slight ding in it, I rung the supplier and advised them, just to let them know, not too worried as I reckon it will straighten and repowdercoat no problems

they say no issues, send us a pic of it and we send you a new wheel

proper job

off to search Ebay for a sports bike rear wheel, it worked well on last trike, so should be fine again

a nice wide spoked wheel would look nice, or maybe a steel car rim, and fit them moon discs both sides

oh well now the rims are here I can sit them down at the width I want, get started on the PCD adaptors (Rob, do you need any work LOL)

then work backwards to sort out how much the axle has to be narrowed by.

Im buzzing already, really looking forward to building something again

fat tube handlebars, internal throttle, no levers on the bars, grips the same dia as the bars, everything satin black, gloss black and then some red/white pinstriping if I can afford it.

plan is to get a tank, cut the bottom out of it, then battery, electrics, brake masters etc all hidden in there, with a cylindrical fuel tank across the back of the frame.


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IMHO skinny front ends look better on a trike.

And I kinda like the way they handle with not too m uch grip up front.

You know, badly cos it's fun
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Thin tyres on a trike do look good but with reliability you are better going with what you know and sticking with the 180.

the concept of the build sounds imense, good luck with it look forward to reading it.
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FWIW I've found if you go too wide with a car tyre on the front of something light you lose grip because you haven't got enough weight on it - think of dragging a tyre & wheel sideways on the garage floor, its easy, now get some one to sit on it and try again - you need enough weight to get grip. Just wait till you ride in heavy rain or through standing water too, aquaplaning here we come!
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fat tube handlebars, internal throttle, no levers on the bars, grips the same dia as the bars, everything satin black, gloss black and then some red/white pinstriping if I can afford it.
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knowing you Tony, you will keep within the budget and have cash to spare.

Your last trike looked very good and seemed to handle well. So I would stick with what you know works, but adapt to suit, so that you are not just copying what you have already done.

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Bit slow off the mark over here but, considering you want the hot rod look I would lean towards the skinny side, for the front end.
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180 rear tyre an wheel get some rubber on the road
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Bit slow off the mark over here but, considering you want the hot rod look I would lean towards the skinny side, for the front end.
Actually giving it a wee bit more thought, the skinny front end is more drag style, the hot rods have big 'n' chunky all round, only slightly smaller on the front.

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As someone who is always very serious and sensible I can understand how mortified you must feel, however, you may take solice in the fact that some of us don't know the difference between a hot rod and a drag racer and some of us don't care and many of us just talk shite all the time..and we don't even need morphine to do it..

However if you have plenty to spare I could find a use for it..

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Using rear fitment tyres on front of the trike, would it pass an mot, or would you have to put a different wheel ant tyre on when going for one?
Its something Ive been thinking about for the Warlock trike ive started.
Ive got 295-50x15 rears on 10" steels as well, and wanted to go the half wide look rather than skinny!

Like your idea about the car tyre on front of your build, but wouldn't it be heavy on turn?
On the move perhaps not, but when manouvering slowly Ide think it would be an arm wrench, lol

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Tyres have to be "suitable" for the purpose.

The class ii manual gives a list of unsuitable tyres which includes rear tyres on the front or vice versa.

If the tyre manufacturer says it should only be used on the rear then it would fail the Mot, MSVA and Construction and use regs.

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Right then, that answers that!

I spos the thing is, put a standard tyre on front for mot etc, then change it for something that looks the part after you get home.
Fingers crossed that plod don't look at side walls, lol.

About time they made some nice size rubber for the custom makers I recon, dont you?

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well the parts pile continues to grow

I am going with tall skinny front wheel, and my own homebrewed springer type front end

rear tyres are on the rims, PCD adaptors etc sorted and on, overall width is 1480mm so quite narrow compared to my last build

theres only about 840mm between the tyres.

lorry airtank arroved today, nice and easy to convert into fuel tank at the bike, hotrod kind of look, using some punched strip steel to make a funky tank strap setup

yokes are done, just need to make the spindle for thru the headstock
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If you want the hotrod look I'd have thought you'd go for a small front wheel?

Is handling really going to be a problem with a trike that's clearly being built for looks and fun rather than practicality?
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Whatever size wheel I use it will handle fine as i will build the front end geometry to suit the wheel.

I have never gone for fashion over function and never will. Its built to be ridden.

I am looking for a vrod front wheel. That will work really well as its 19" and the solid look is cool.

However they not easy to find.

I ride pretty fast and will be commuting as well as school run etc on it. So first priority is that its right. I wont own or ride a trike that shakes the bars. So i spend the time getting it right from the beginning. Hence why nothing starts until i find the right wheel and tyre.

I mocked up the parts in garage with a 17" sports bike front wheel and it looked a bit lost. Rear tyres are about 26" tall. Really want the 295 50 15 up front but just too much work for me at the moment
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When its finished
Not doing build pics etc anymore.
It should be rolling round over xmas holiday. Then all the lil jobs.
I estimate msva test about mid to end march. Probably book it well in advance that way i have a deadline. Otherwise i struggle to get motivated.
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It will be awesome judging on previous builds, have you seen the paint job on the Gtr 1000 you sold to BJ
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No not yet. He sent me a pic of the tank. The mad thing is its exactly what i had planned for it if i had kept it and had the money to buy paint lol. Things were that bad..

Really wish i had kept it but had to pay bills and make sure my lil girl had what she needed.

im looking forward to this build. Need to get my hands dirty and brain ticking
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i havent seen it together yet, im sure i will im at his wedding next weekend
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Haven't got it all back together yet so won't be ready for my wedding sorry Swirl
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well in the end I decided that its going to be skinny front, 21" spoked wheel sourced and flung on growing the pile of parts

going kind of skinny front Z bars influenced bars, sporty tank sat up high. going to be a compact trike thats for sure
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Old 18-11-2014, 05:51 PM
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Not that I know anything but how do you work out the weight at the front end to prevent wheelying every time you fill the tank.

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