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Old 30-04-2013, 08:24 AM
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Hello. Anybody help please. Built a trike, registered 26/4/11. All passed through sva with vosa. Tried to tax it yesterday for next months tax. Lady said the computer was asking for a M.O.T. I thought as a new build it does not need one for 3 years!!! She said phone DVLA to explain the situation, they then phoned VOSA who said as it's a Q plate and no age related it needs a M.O.T. after a year!!!! Can anybody please explain this. Many thanks woody
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Old 30-04-2013, 08:37 AM
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It was not assembled from all new parts so therefore some or all of the parts are from unknown year, therefore needing Mot. Afaik
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:40 PM
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RESULT. Download an old V112 form. Get one of the internet 4 pages long. Some are only 2 pages and does not really say anything about 3 years old. Simple fill in, take to post office, along with log book (date resistered) insurance, when they check there system it ask for a M.O.T. Produce form. TAX IS GIVEN. They dont even keep the form. Happy Triking days are here again
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:32 PM
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You may have blagged the tax (fraudulently) , but careful. If you have a accident or theft, your insurance will not pay out. Just Mot the thing.

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Old 01-05-2013, 03:46 PM
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I think the word blagged is a bit harsh. New build, registered correctly, many new parts. And 3 years is 3 years free M.O.T as with all new cars/kit cars/trikes etc. Sorry but my opinion as the law is not very clear
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:36 PM
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If it was NEW it would have a 13 plate not a Q. Therefore it is not new, If you didn't fraudulently obtain your road tax what classification did you put on the legally binding declaration... We have all bent the rules from time to time but what you are doing is stupid. And you will get caught out first time a copper with half a ounce asks you to produce your docs. Just Mot it it's simple unless your machine is likely to fail I do not see why you are trying so hard to avoid it. People bending and blagging are the reason SVA and MSVA have been invented. Do it once do it right. Your opinion is wrong. Simple.
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If you didn't fraudulently obtain your road tax what classification did you put on the legally binding declaration...
How about Tram?
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How about Tram?
Not many trikes handle like their on rails ......
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I'm with shaggy on this its on a Q it needs a MOT after 1year
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:25 AM
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Well thanks lads/ lasses. For all your imput
Only trying as its cost me a lot of hard work time and so called SVA, VOSA, TEST, and exams. Sometimes I wonder if legal is safe. Good night
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:38 AM
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Stick a pic up .
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:46 AM
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Look at my other posts and I have put piics up before. Thanks
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:10 AM
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Ok I understand why you have been avoiding the mot if it is still a a reliant on the log book and the Mot computer will say it is. I hope it doesn't owe you too much as it would be a pity to get it impounded and crushed as a ringer bin the reliant log book Sva test If it is no longer a reliant then still Mot it, you have spent time doing it so do it right. Just a silencer for the end of the stinger and you should be ok ... All that is left to say is good luck and avoid the police.

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Old 02-05-2013, 08:56 AM
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Nosy Fuck that I am i have just looked at all your posts

And what i still can't understand is that you SVA'd it but it's still registered as a reliant and it has a reliant chassis plate on it so how the Fuck did they pass it someone has fucked up somewhere

It looks like you did a good job on the build
But i think you would have done better to invent a make so it is a stand alone vehicle not something posing as a reliant

I can't help thinking that it's going to cause you grief as it's not a reliant it's a shame as you seem to have done things right and should have been told at the time of the SVA

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Old 02-05-2013, 09:28 AM
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Just for the records. Sorry Shaggy696969. I did not explain my trike build enough. Yes went down the reliant route first, advice i had been given,wrong move I know, took advice of other more intelligent people than myself. I then went through the very costly, time consuming and vigorous MSVA test and it passed (not as a reliant) Now achieving a fully legal registered Trike. Taxed first year at the DVLA centre NO mention of a M.O.T. Also the gentleman at VOSA who passed it did not say anything about the stinger having a silencer, infact he said it was a very well made and constructed trike and a pity others weren't up to this standard. Once again thanks, only trying to get a tax disc for all these uneven pot hole ridden roads we have.

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I'd still stick an Mot on it for peace of mind. And to please the insurance company's/plod.
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Hi Woody, Shaggy is right.

It works like this if you build a vehicle using components from one donor vehicle you may at DVLAs discretion be allowed to keep the reg of the donor but will need MOT as it is an old vehicle.

If the vehicle is built from various donors it will get a Q plate this is also deemed an old vehicle and will need MOT.

Only if all your compnents are new will you get this years registration and your vehicle deemed new and not need an MOT.

All this will be decided by DVLA not VOSA.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:31 PM
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Ok Harry/Shaggy. But how did it get its first tax from the DVLA with out no M.O.T. And also when I rang the DVLA about this problem they told me to get the form V112 and fill it out. Or dont they know the rules and regulations. Also I have looked all over the internet and cant appear to find any percific regulations about this. Thanks.
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Yeah DVLA are crap and often don't know their own rules.

They usually let people have their first years tax without an MOT but the regs say it should have one.
Therefore when I Did SVA testing I always recomended getting an MOT anyway. It's one of those things where many people get away with it, but if you are the unlucky person to have a bad accident and the insurance company hire an expensive lawyer you could and up in the sh1t. They will use the "Ignorance of the law is no excuse." to hang you.
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On Brit Chopper, according to Sooze who works for the ministry it is 3 years after sva before an MOT is needed
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On Brit Chopper, according to Sooze who works for the ministry it is 3 years after sva before an MOT is needed
Only if all the parts are new.
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Only if all the parts are new.
Very true..and its not on a Q

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Well 23 posts to say the same thing..is there any real reason why you can't take it for an MOT..having only just been built it should almost be a formality..and 25..

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On a bit of a tangent, I have a 1958 Landrover, it does not need an MOT now but it still gets one. Just to show that on that day it was roadworthy, if in the case of an accident the insurance company kick off.
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