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Old 08-09-2012, 08:47 AM
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been told buy a mate that in france its now law for a percentage of clothing being worn on a bike,has to be day glow,does that meen if you are visiting you also have to comply.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:37 AM
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If it's anything like their headlight or speeding laws then yes[don't ask me how i know but on the spot fines hurt]they don't even tell you your getting fined on the toll roads you just pay a higher toll than other people, so you will have to dress up in dayglow probably a tabard would do but don't take my word for it find out for sure first

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Old 08-09-2012, 11:39 AM
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You also need to carry 2 breath test kits. You need 2 because if you get stopped and use one then you no longer have one for your equipment to ride. They wont accept your going off to buy another? High viz for each person on the bike & First aid kit. You can get all this on the ferry or Halfrauds.Don't go without them. The froggy police are currently raking it in from British tourists not realising.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:23 PM
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Could be a market for stick on dayglo patches with

'Fuck off you pedantic frog munching' surrender monkey, I'm legal!'

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Old 09-09-2012, 06:43 AM
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As of 1st Jan 2013 it will be an offence, punishable through a fine and the loss of points, (in France you lose them, don't gain them) not to wear at least 150cm2 of relective clothing between the waist and the shoulders.


http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affich...tegorieLien=id
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As of 1st Jan 2013 it will be an offence, punishable through a fine and the loss of points, (in France you lose them, don't gain them) not to wear at least 150cm2 of relective clothing between the waist and the shoulders.


http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affich...tegorieLien=id
Can it be under your jacket?

Or does all that french state that it must be visible?
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As of 1st Jan 2013 it will be an offence, punishable through a fine and the loss of points, (in France you lose them, don't gain them) not to wear at least 150cm2 of relective clothing between the waist and the shoulders.


http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affich...tegorieLien=id
Thats about 4'6" square, fucking hell how the fuck are you ment to get that between your waist and shoulders.
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Thats about 4'6" square, fucking hell how the fuck are you ment to get that between your waist and shoulders.
eh? where did you go to school???

it's the eqivilent of an area of just under 5 inches by just under 5 inches square.
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it's aproximately 4 inches x 6 inches, 10cm x 15 cm.
Although the last issue of MAG's ROAD magazine implied that the French law may be illegal because it does not meet EuroStandards

With a new (albeit fairly useless) French president at the helm, it may never happen.
We can only hope.

If I am forced to wear 150 square centimetres of hi-viz material between shoulder and waist, I shall affix it to my left breast.

older people will grock the fullness
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150 square centimeters i was thinking of 150 cm square

go to school i had better things to do like thrash a bantam round a field
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it's aproximately 4 inches x 6 inches, 10cm x 15 cm.
Although the last issue of MAG's ROAD magazine implied that the French law may be illegal because it does not meet EuroStandards

With a new (albeit fairly useless) French president at the helm, it may never happen.
We can only hope.

If I am forced to wear 150 square centimetres of hi-viz material between shoulder and waist, I shall affix it to my left breast.

older people will grock the fullness
Great Idea - It'll be a six sided star shape I assume
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it's aproximately 4 inches x 6 inches, 10cm x 15 cm.
Although the last issue of MAG's ROAD magazine implied that the French law may be illegal because it does not meet EuroStandards

With a new (albeit fairly useless) French president at the helm, it may never happen.
We can only hope.

If I am forced to wear 150 square centimetres of hi-viz material between shoulder and waist, I shall affix it to my left breast.

older people will grock the fullness
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Simple answer. Don't go to France. Ban the fuckers from coming here as well. Brick up the tunnel on thier side. Fill it with pikeys and then brick up our side. Leave one small hole in the wall to pump in the gas. Voila! Ces bon.

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As Chopper says.
Other forums/MCN/mags are saying avoid France as they are actively targeting bikes, especially Brits. Go via Belgium, Amshterdaam or Spain if possible.
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Old 14-09-2012, 08:06 AM
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Actually what we need to do is turn there own stupid EU rules against them. I thought the EU was originally about freedom of trade and movement and removing barriers. I remember a few years back one of the countries banned trailers on their own bikes but someone got a ruling that said as it was legal in the UK and some other EU states they had to allow you to transit through their country. Surely as we can ride in black leathers in the UK and in Belgium we should be able to get the same ruling applied here - that is what their beloved type approaval is all about - legal in one legal in all.

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Old 14-09-2012, 08:53 AM
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Actually what we need to do is turn there own stupid EU rules against them. I thought the EU was originally about freedom of trade and movement and removing barriers. I remember a few years back one of the countries banned trailers on their own bikes but someone got a ruling that said as it was legal in the UK and some other EU states they had to allow you to transit through their country. Surely as we can ride in black leathers in the UK and in Belgium we should be able to get the same ruling applied here - that is what their beloved type approaval is all about - legal in one legal in all.

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You wouldn't get anywhere with that..some EU countries have roads with unlimited top speeds but they still get done for speeding if they visit countries with low top speed limits..

Best to buy a dayglow vest at the pound shop.

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Old 14-09-2012, 08:55 AM
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Simple answer. Don't go to France. Ban the fuckers from coming here as well. Brick up the tunnel on thier side. Fill it with pikeys and then brick up our side. Leave one small hole in the wall to pump in the gas. Voila! Ces bon.

Chopper
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good idea.

Stupid idea, why the small hole and who pays for the gas.

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Was thinking about the 150cm2 thing the other day while looking at wor lasses bike jacket hanging up. Her's has got discreet piping on the seams which has got to add up to the required amount. Reckon she'd get away with it? It's reflective mind, not dayglow.
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Sort of leads to the question,"what is dayglo?" Has it been legally defined?
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i think that is the frogs current problem - they can only specify an EU standard and the only one of those is for hi vis PPE which is what they originally wanted - they backed down to 150cm after the protests but have now found they can't specify it so are between a rock and a hard place
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It comes down to the fact that you pay the spot fine that is issued whether you are right or wrong..Not much chance of you going back to France for several days of court battle..Buy the dayglo vest from the 1 shop..

Or give Europe a miss.

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Me and the wife go to France on the Harley regularly about four times a year. The bikes too loud, I ride too fast, and due to the fact that I'm getting forgetful, I often don't have a GB sticker. Neither do I have a set of light bulbs or a reflective triangle etc; I do have reflective vests, but they're in the panniers.
The thing is, I've never been bothered by the French police or Gendarmes despite passing them at some illegal speed on their motorways. I've even been encouraged to go faster on a couple of occasions.
France is a good place to ride, the drivers have a very healthy attitude to any one on two wheels, and the real French people can be pleasant. I'd hate to have to give it all up due to some over reactive French bureaucrat.
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Me and the wife go to France on the Harley regularly about four times a year. The bikes too loud, I ride too fast, and due to the fact that I'm getting forgetful, I often don't have a GB sticker. Neither do I have a set of light bulbs or a reflective triangle etc; I do have reflective vests, but they're in the panniers.
The thing is, I've never been bothered by the French police or Gendarmes despite passing them at some illegal speed on their motorways. I've even been encouraged to go faster on a couple of occasions.
France is a good place to ride, the drivers have a very healthy attitude to any one on two wheels, and the real French people can be pleasant. I'd hate to have to give it all up due to some over reactive French bureaucrat.
I agree, France is a great place to visit either by bike or car.
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Old 28-11-2012, 08:31 AM
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27-11-2012 French bin their Hi-Viz proposals

We've just heard that the French interior Minister Emmanuel Valls has decided to withdraw the 150 square centimetre hi-viz rule.

Apparently he has acknowledged the protests from riders and that there really isn't any basis for the move.

MAG highlighted a few months ago, that apart from setting a dangerous precedent and creating the possibility that blame for accidents could be automatically shifted toward those riders not wearing the hi-viz as required, the French Government had also found itself in possible breach of an EU Directive which stipulated minimum quantities of hi-viz if hi-viz was being prescribed.
Much of what had been included under the previous French Government's 'Road Safety Plan' has now been watered down or thrown out completely. The new Socialist administration does appear to be taking on board the public strength of feeling and perhaps it acknowledges it is there to govern for the people, not over the people. Refreshing indeed.
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I agree, France is a great place to carpet bomb either by plane or missile.
There ya go mate, fixed that for you.

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Me and the wife go to France on the Harley regularly about four times a year. The bikes too loud, I ride too fast, and due to the fact that I'm getting forgetful, I often don't have a GB sticker. Neither do I have a set of light bulbs or a reflective triangle etc; I do have reflective vests, but they're in the panniers.
The thing is, I've never been bothered by the French police or Gendarmes despite passing them at some illegal speed on their motorways. I've even been encouraged to go faster on a couple of occasions.
France is a good place to ride, the drivers have a very healthy attitude to any one on two wheels, and the real French people can be pleasant. I'd hate to have to give it all up due to some over reactive French bureaucrat.
Me too although I haven't been for a few year. France is a great place for a biking holiday and yes, the French can be awkward if you act like a Brit abroad but try to speak French and they'll be as helpful as they can.
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Me too although I haven't been for a few year. France is a great place for a biking holiday and yes, the French can be awkward if you act like a Brit abroad but try to speak French and they'll be as helpful as they can.
Me and a mate toured France early this summer. I can just about manage wee and non, but found my smile and natural charm worked a treat. All the French were nice to us, perhaps it's because of losing every fight with us for the last thousand years.
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i understand that the french find our accent very sexy when we speak french.........
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At school we had a french exchange student who told us all that "donnez moi une pompier" (give me a fireman) meant give me a blowjob - the next year we told the next student that we knew it and he laughed so much he nearly shit himself as apparently it was a big wind up he had been told about - the previous year all the exchange students had decided to pretend that it was true slang and wind us up us Brits.

I have never forgiven them although luckily as i was 14 i never had the embarresment of trying out the phrase on a live french bird and being laughed at like 1 older mate did when on his holiday
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