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Old 13-12-2010, 08:07 PM
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Im really in need of some advice.A few weeks back i was followed home from work by some bast*rd in a car who watched me pull up to my garage.When i went over to aproach him he drove off. Anyway two nights later my garage was broken into and trashed but nothing was stolen as i'd left my bike at work.Can anybody recommend a good lock for a bog standard council up and over door? I know this bloke will be back,my neighbour saw a car sitting down there the other night but i only found out next day.
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Old 13-12-2010, 08:25 PM
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bird scarer, wiring the garage door to a 12volt coil and flasher relay unit,
of course all highly illegal but good fun
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Old 13-12-2010, 08:30 PM
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were do u get them from ? and how much ?
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Old 13-12-2010, 08:40 PM
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Fit one of these SOBs.

http://www.bikesecure.co.uk/pages/alarm_mine.html
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Old 13-12-2010, 09:05 PM
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Whatever alarm you fit will only work if you are close enough to hear it and spend the rest of your life with the TV on mute and ready to run to the garage at a moments notice..even then there will be false alarms and other peoples alarms going off all the time..

That way lies madness.

Or, unrealistically you could try the Tony Martin approach and sit waiting in the garage with a shotgun.

The best bet is to fit four really good locks that make it far too much bother for your average thief to open.

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Old 13-12-2010, 09:36 PM
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Or, unrealistically you could try the Tony Martin approach and sit waiting in the garage with a shotgun.
Hence the Alarm Mine....... same sound effects but without the litigation.
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Old 13-12-2010, 09:52 PM
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eyup had same problems with mine, first off fit a bar or plank of wood across the top and bottom of the door inside it stops them bending the corners, next fit 4 thick dog leg brackets from the frame to the wall so they can not move the frame, then if you can get a bracket like > -L fited to floor & bar going through door with a hole to fit a padlock to stops them moving door side to side,

now the best bit you need an old phone mine is a nokia 3310 what you do is conect 2 wires to the quick dial button & set your number as the quick dial number now if those wire's are touch together it should ring your phone fit a switch to the door, to do that job,

then set a loud unusual ring tone for when the phone rings you so there is no mistake mine is peter kay car alarm

http://www.instructables.com/id/Motorbike-Phone-Alarm/ ps you dont need a timer as with the switch activated over 2 sec it will ring i have a relay on mine as i was using a magnetic contact to activate mine so had to fit relay to extend time, have taken that of now as i use a normal switch & a tilt switch as back up
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Old 13-12-2010, 10:03 PM
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Get a big fuckoff snarling dog. My mate used to take his Ridgeback everywhere in his sidecar and not once did anyone have the balls to try to steal his bike.
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Old 14-12-2010, 01:15 PM
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I've got one of them alarm mine's. Set it off one night to see what response it got and it works. No bugger so much as twitches when they hear an alarm go off but a blank (wouldn't want ya to fit a live one, facing the door or anything*) shotgun cartridge going cablooey in the depths of the night certainly gets the net curtains twitching




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(wouldn't want ya to fit a live one, facing the door or anything*)
Id like to put a live one in loaded with rock salt just to add a bit more sting to it.But i value my freedom too much.Guess i'll go for the four locks idea.
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Old 14-12-2010, 06:53 PM
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The trouble with these rook scarers is that any bike thief will probably have a mate with a van, and they will have seen the adverts and know they are only going to go bang.

They will take what they want, load it into the van, with the alarm and drive away and you can't put a live cartridge in because they will say they were driving past and saw some suspicious character and stopped to help.

the worst of it is that the thief will probably be a biker, maybe one you call a friend.

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have you thought about fitting a garage defender?
2 decent size bolts into the floor which sit under the lock and 1 sits inside the garage.
stops door been pulled open.
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One of these?

http://www.elitemotorcycleservices.c...edefender.html
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go on a hunting site,you can get 12 gauge trip mines,that of course you put a blank 12g cartrige in and it scaires the bee jesuse out of them,and alerts all and sundry,or if like me,i slept in my garage for over a week,till i was awakend with scum,trying to steel what is mine,well i hit a few home runs that night,thay screamed like baby girls that had lost there barby dolls.
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Old 15-12-2010, 01:04 PM
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Got 2 of these on my garage door. Get em from a farmers supply place, they are only about a tenner there.

Also got me garage door wired up to a switch-mode supply delivering 100,000 volts (at very low current so wont kill anybody, but sure will make the fuckers jump) this is wired to be live whenever the house alarm is switched on. The garage door outside lock and handle are no longer connected to anything So I can only open the garage by going through the house, this prevents me from forgetting and getting a pisser of my own (only ever happened once).

Finally, I live next door to an armed response copper who is also a dog handler. 2 fuckin great big german shepheards that make a hell of a lot of noise if anyone unknown is near the place.
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Old 15-12-2010, 04:39 PM
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A sturdy product. The only problem is that most up-and-over doors are so flimsy you can buckle the door to get in.
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Old 15-12-2010, 05:28 PM
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a bike pagersystem is whot you need ,got some here , they page you if your bike is moved , they dont make a sound so only you no that you need to arm yourself an go get the scum good for when your in the pub too ,
35.00 quid but will need new batterys by now been in stock for a few years mrp is 75.00 pm address if intrested
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Old 16-12-2010, 09:18 PM
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A sturdy product. The only problem is that most up-and-over doors are so flimsy you can buckle the door to get in.

yeah i thought that, was thinking of coachbolting a couple of bits of box section to the inside of the door to brace it. Trouble with lock up security is, if it looks too good, it makes you a target.
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Old 17-12-2010, 01:23 AM
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I live next door to an armed response copper who is also a dog handler. 2 fuckin great big german shepheards that make a hell of a lot of noise if anyone unknown is near the place.
I had a mate who was a dog handler when I was at school.

Unfortunately they caught him at it..

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yeah i thought that, was thinking of coachbolting a couple of bits of box section to the inside of the door to brace it. Trouble with lock up security is, if it looks too good, it makes you a target.
true but also if there is a load of garages with no defender and 1 with they will try the others b4 so a detterent too.

also yes, 1 way garage doors are broken in to is to bend a bottom corner but if you do this and have defender at least cant get a bike out, lol.

all security is passable but its a case of trying to make it as hard as poss for the scum/thieves.

we got a decent door on our garage now but b4 they done em up they were crap and bendable by the corners, we had a garage defender on it locks/shackles in both bottom corners and 1 in the middle at top.
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Old 17-12-2010, 07:54 PM
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Id like to put a live one in loaded with rock salt just to add a bit more sting to it.But i value my freedom too much.Guess i'll go for the four locks idea.
you can buy sand filled grenades online for paintball and re-enactments, you can even buy paintball grenades!!
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and i went into aldi the other day and they had infra red b+w cctv surveilance kits in at under 20 quid!
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but ive often been told that if you have power in there, the best thing you can have is a baby monitor!
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Keep a hidden mobile phone on the bike (switched on!) and if it goes walkies use that site 'Follow us'.
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Old 19-12-2010, 11:33 PM
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why not , make another gate style door inside the original , floor lock the up and over from the inside in the centre and the ends.
build a nice door inside out of 1.5" box which goes from floor almost to ceiling (enough room for the door to swing over ) again make this lock from the inside.
cut yourself a small whole door in the wall,big enough to get out and make a flap door out of plate steel with big padlock and clasp (weld the rivets) make thedoor small and deep enough that getting a grinder in ect would be hard.
if your still sweaty ..pm me and i'll do a simple scematic and some product suggestions for intruder alarm stuff.
being doing it at work for 20 odd yrs, alarms are ok but if your serious about keepin them out start with the physical stuff .
failing that it is big dog time as prev said.
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Old 20-12-2010, 07:13 PM
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Cheers Spyke,i wish i could do something like that but its a council garage in the middle of a block of four.I dont think they mind the odd lock or two but thats as far as it goes.As for the big dog,mines a springer spaniel who's more likely to roll over on his back than tear into somebody.
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Old 20-12-2010, 09:05 PM
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dino,
reinforce the door in tha corners. triangle sheet welded in place.
add some decent locks. go to a small local diy place and ask, you will be surprised at whats out there.
fit some ground anchors and chains to the stuff you want to protect.
if they want it they will take it.
your job is to make it as hard as possible for them to take it.
they will come along and way up whats needed to do the job and then come back to do it.
and its also worth contacting the local plod and asking for advice and then that way you are on their radar before owt happens.
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