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Old 03-08-2009, 12:49 PM
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One way in and out eh? makes life easier if your sense of direction is as much use as a fart in a spacesuit.

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They've already started pulling caravans and cars and anything else which looks like it might be carrying members of the set up crew, and hitting them with full searches.
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Old 03-08-2009, 10:59 PM
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pity you could'nt pitch together for a helicopter hire, and fly in right over their fukin heads !!!
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Bastards. And I bet the run the dogs around the site to make sure nothing has been pre hidden.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:27 AM
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They've already started pulling caravans and cars and anything else which looks like it might be carrying members of the set up crew, and hitting them with full searches.
Probably because they got fuck all in thier searches last year. You can bet your bottom dollar they are going to pull some mindfuck stunt this year, just to piss us all off.

I am taking absolutely fuck all they can nick me for. Even bought a standard size registration number plate. If the plods results are as pathetic as last year they are going to have some serious explaining to do to the council tax payers that foot the bill for this harrassment.

I am working at the Bulldog, but I hope to have time to catch up with some friends. Nothing those assholes in uniform can do is going to stop me having as good a time as I always have at the Bulldog. So bollox to them.

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Here's a little thought - my thoughts are always little:

Why not set up staging points outside the stop & search area, and wait until you have huge numbers of bikes to go in waves. That way, they'll have fuck all to do for ages and then have a massive crowd of bikes and pressure all at once. Also try to find out which points are undermanned and mob them with hundreds of bikes, leaving the well manned points with nowt to do - it won't be hard to frustrate them

Play them at their own game - take nothing stoopid with you, be calm & controlled, and involve them in all the paperwork you can
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:29 PM
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Unfortunately, as the mods stated in the pink roses thread, any non members can read all these threads, even those with trotters for thumbs,

So no plans posted up here eh !
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Unfortunately, as the mods stated in the pink roses thread, any non members can read all these threads, even those with trotters for thumbs,

So no plans posted up here eh !
Wise words indeed Dusty, they are nothing if not resourceful, and you can bet ALL the bike forums will have monitors on em.
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:39 PM
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:52 PM
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considering theres all sorts that go,plod is setting itself up with groups of muslim bikers,ethnic bikers and i know a group of lawyer etc bikers are going.plus theres doctors,firemen every area of life,riding in on two wheels and obviously in their respective groups..
jon law could well have shot themselves in the foot this time i think,i do hope so
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:57 PM
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They've already started pulling caravans and cars and anything else which looks like it might be carrying members of the set up crew, and hitting them with full searches.
So, how many times does Section 60's number of hours of search relate to?
Reading this, it appears to me to be just 30 hrs maximum. Which, if they are stopping and searching guys now, would run out of time by Thursday A.M. surely? Or is there a hidden clause that says the 30 hrs can be accumulative?


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Section 60 General Advice
Under Section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, a police officer of the rank of inspector or above may issue a written authorisation for additional search powers on the basis of a reasonable belief that incidents involving serious violence may take place or that people are carrying dangerous instruments or offensive weapons in the area without good reason. The powers relate to pedestrians and vehicles in a specified locality, for a specified period, not exceeding 24 hours at a time. If it appears to the officer who gave the authorisation or to a superintendent that it is expedient to do so, he may extend this power for a further six hours, for a total of 30 hours.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:56 PM
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I always carry Section 60 and Section 44 guidelines on me, just in case.

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Old 04-08-2009, 09:09 PM
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Good idea. I'll be printing copies off tomorrow too. Cheers.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:18 PM
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See you all at the bulldog riding up on thursday...

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So, how many times does Section 60's number of hours of search relate to?
Reading this, it appears to me to be just 30 hrs maximum. Which, if they are stopping and searching guys now, would run out of time by Thursday A.M. surely? Or is there a hidden clause that says the 30 hrs can be accumulative?

Where do I find this section 60? and section 44? Which law is it from?

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Old 05-08-2009, 05:10 AM
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Thanks Taff. I'll print off a copy to take with me.

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Just been reading the link Taff quoted. Made me think a bit!!! 'kin ell!

While we are all frothing at the mouth about what the cops may or may not do, how unfair blah blah blah.

How many have taken the trouble to find out exactly what your rights are as an individual, when faced with cops abusing thier powers? May well be worth doing some homework.

Until I read that link, I didn't know that you can refuse to give your name and address during stop and search. Not supplying this information is NOT grounds for arrest. Cops also have to display thier shoulder numbers.

Beat the fuckers at thier own game.

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Old 05-08-2009, 09:53 AM
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Any one meeting at the exit for marshalling tomorrow able to tell me exactly where the exit is?
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:54 AM
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This link gives a printable version of the police stop and search requirements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...&printable=yes

If you google Police and Criminal Evidence Act, you can get the full detailed version. Makes for heavy reading but all the information you need to decide if you have grounds for an oficial complaint and or possible legal action against the police is there.

If you read the wikipedia link, there are two short paragraphs that explain the cops powers to stop and search you and your rights if you are stopped and searched.

Just a brief read of them suggests to me that there are one or two loopholes that could be readily exploited in the event that anybody would like to cause the police some grief.

Not that I am trying to encourage or condone any sort of payback for the cops trying to spoil our fun!!!

Might be worth printing this out and carry it with you.

Conduct of a search
Code A to the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 governs the exercise of stop and search powers. Reasonable force may be used in the exercise of stop and search powers.[4]

If an officer uses Stop and Search powers, they must inform:

The law under which they are stopping or searching you
Their collar number and police station
What they are looking for
The reason for the stop (unless it is a terrorist stop)
They should also advise that the subject has the right to be given a record of the search if they so wish.
Advise the subject that they are detained for the duration of the stop

Rights of persons being searched
These rights are set out in Sections 2 and 3 of The Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984, and are binding on all forms of stop and search, not only those authorised by Section 1 of that act.

It is not necessary to give an officer one's name and address in a Stop and Search. Declining to provide this information is not a valid reason for arrest.
If a subject refuses to be stopped, the police can use reasonable force to both stop and detain, so they can conduct a search.
If police are searching for drugs, weapons or stolen property, they must have a reason for suspicion (such as a general description, your behaviour, or other intelligence) before they can make a search. If the Stop and Search is terrorism-related, or the Stop and Search is conducted under the powers granted by S.60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, then this is exempted from that rule.
The officers making the search must use the Stop and Search powers fairly, responsibly and with respect for people without discrimination.
If English is not the first language of a subject, and they do not understand why they have been stopped, reasonable steps must be taken to provide information in the subject's first language.
The officer must make sure that the search time is kept to a minimum.
The search must take place near where you are stopped, except in instances where moving a subject would protect their privacy.
The police do not have the power to stop someone to find grounds for a search.

The Stop and Search Form
Officers are obliged to provide a form explaining the reason for the stop and giving contact information.

On occasions where officers are unable to provide the full form, for example if they receive a call they must urgently respond to, they are obliged to provide a receipt instead. This acts as a record of the stop, and a full form can be subsequently obtained from a police station anytime within the next twelve months by providing this receipt.

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Where it says you do not have to give your name during a stop and search, you do if its a vehicle stop btw.
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Where it says you do not have to give your name during a stop and search, you do if its a vehicle stop btw.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

I copied and pasted the link to a wikipedia page. The Home Office page is a pdf document of some 28 pages. If you know better than the official source, then lets hear what information you have and where it came from.

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This on the other hand is a BAD thing to say

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If you want to know what happens if you say this please refer to parts of the 'Pink whatever MC' thread....

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Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

I copied and pasted the link to a wikipedia page. The Home Office page is a pdf document of some 28 pages. If you know better than the official source, then lets hear what information you have and where it came from.

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Hey, I wasn't having a pop at anyone, just adding to the useful information you'd posted.
Don't want anyone to dig their heels in thinking they are right and getting nicked for it.

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You do NOT have to give them your name or address (Unless you are the driver of a vehicle that has been stopped, - normal traffic stop rules then apply. If you are a passenger you do NOT have to give you name or address).
You will need to give your name & address if you are arrested.
You are also required to give your name and address not only if you are
arrested but if you are reported for an offence.
Taken from info provided by Liberty on the Bulldog bash page posted by Pug.

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it would seem the event and the policing of it has made it onto sky news
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