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Old 30-04-2008, 12:57 PM
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REVENGE attacks between warring biker gangs could pose a 'life-threatening risk' to the South Derbyshire public if a rock festival is given the go-ahead, police have claimed.

The Outlaws Motorcycle Club wants to hold the Rock and Blues Custom Show at Catton Hall, near Walton on Trent.

However, police fear the event could be targeted for a retribution attack after seven Outlaws were charged with the M40 motorway murder of Gerry Tobin , a full 'patch' member of the Hells Angels. Mr Tobin was shot in the back of the head as he left the annual Hells Angels' Bulldog Bash festival, in Warwickshire, in August last year.

Police fear that if licensing bosses give the green light to the Catton Hall event - scheduled to take place from July 24 to 26 - members of the public could be put in serious danger.

In a report to go before licensing bosses next week, a spokesman for Derbyshire Constabulary says: "Police do not believe that the public safety can be ensured should the event take place.

"The Rock and Blues Custom Show 2008 is an event of such significance to the Outlaws MC that it represents the most desirable target for a revenge attack by Hells Angels MC.

"As the Outlaws MC's equivalent to the Bulldog Bash, the 2008 show is the first to have taken place after Tobin's murder, and therefore represents the first suitably high-profile opportunity for revenge.

"The positioning of the site of the licensed event creates a heightened risk to the public in the event of gang-related violence.

"The area of South Derbyshire has many narrow lanes, and were an incident to take place, there is a substantial risk of harm to members of the public.

"From their enquiries over recent months, the police also believe that serious organised crime may be being planned during the event, as part of the national and international 'business planning' of the Outlaws Association and Outlaws MC.

"In those circumstances, Derbyshire Constabulary would not enter into an agreement to police and protect their activities."

He said there were "no conditions which could be placed upon the licence which would, in the opinion of Derbyshire Constabulary, ensure the public would be safe".

The Outlaws, Hells Angels and Bandidos are the biggest of the so-called '1percent-er' motorcycle clubs in the world.

In January, three Outlaws members were attacked by a gang of Hells Angels armed with machetes at Birmingham Airport - in full view of passengers and children.

One of those arrested, Neil Bissell, the deputy organiser of the Bulldog Bash, remains on police bail.

Closer to home, members of the Outlaws - who are rumoured to have a 'clubhouse' in the Waterloo Street area of the town - are believed to have been behind the stabbing of a 39-year-old man outside Burton's Abbey Inn, in January, 2006.

However, despite the subsequent arrests of three men and a woman in connection with the knife attack, no charges were ever brought.

Simon Covell, from event organiser One Percent Entertainment, says the Outlaws are 'fully committed' to ensuring the security of the bash, citing risk assessments which have been carried out.

However, the police spokesman says: "It is a matter of official record that over many years, '1percent-er' motorcycle clubs have been actively engaged in organised crime, including murder, extortion, robbery, drugs and firearms.

"Many of the violent incidents involve revenge attacks on rival gangs and retaliation is undertaken on a global scale.

"In order to appreciate the potentially life-threatening risk to members of the public in South Derbyshire, it is necessary to understand the history of the motorcycle clubs and the intense rivalry and hatred that exists between them.

"When respective motorcycle clubs hold major events, these are likely to attract revenge attacks with the most impact."

The history of ingrained hatred between the Outlaws and the Hells Angels dates back to 1969, when an Outlaw raped the wife of a rival gang member.

A decision on the premises licence will be made during a meeting of the council's licensing sub-committee on Wednesday, May 7.


http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/burtonma....asp?ID=311074

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Old 30-04-2008, 02:08 PM
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They've known for ages.
Hence the recent addition to their website;

Please also note that there will be no ticket refunds whatsoever unless this show is cancelled by the event organisers One percent Entertainments Group.
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Old 30-04-2008, 02:14 PM
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Think we have all known for ages this could be possibility Taff.

Ya know what they say hun.......'what goes around comes around' eh?
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They've known for ages.
Hence the recent addition to their website;

Please also note that there will be no ticket refunds whatsoever unless this show is cancelled by the event organisers One percent Entertainments Group.

does that mean if the police cancel it, no one gets their dosh back
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Old 30-04-2008, 04:12 PM
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does that mean if the police cancel it, no one gets their dosh back
Looks that way doesn't it?
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Looks that way doesn't it?

well slap me with a wet lettuce. thats a bit orf side innit
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Old 30-04-2008, 05:36 PM
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So what are the odds of the Bulldog not happening for similar reasons?
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They've known for ages.
Hence the recent addition to their website;

Please also note that there will be no ticket refunds whatsoever unless this show is cancelled by the event organisers One percent Entertainments Group.
is that allowed...........................
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Old 30-04-2008, 09:22 PM
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I suppose after the cancellation of Ink and Iron this was to be expected.Trouble now is the Bulldog could be next and then any other rally where the police say they cannot guarantee public safety.
I just wonder how long rallying has left before they are all banned on public safety grounds. I believe Stormin the Castle organisers are still waiting to get their licences for the new site. We will see what happens.
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Faro anyone ................seems the safest bet atm
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Old 30-04-2008, 09:41 PM
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I should think you'll all be safe at HOG rallies

Glad I dont do rallies (cept bulldog), so it dont affect me. But I'm sorry for the folk that look forward to the rallying season.

All have to start having house parties, they can be just as much if not more fun.
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Old 30-04-2008, 10:13 PM
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i'll have to start having house parties, they can be just as much if not more fun. Must search out the 'key bowl'
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Old 30-04-2008, 10:19 PM
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oh yes we always do that at my soirees. They usually get slung into the swimming pool at the end of the night
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I sincerely hope that this action by the cops is not the start of things to come.

I have been to the Bulldog many times and had press passes at several Bashes. I had a brilliant time at every one and was treated very very well by the HA. Even worked at one Bulldog bash, never seen any trouble at all there , just lots of like minded folk having a bloody good time.

If the cops can stop or hinder an event like The Bulldog Bash they can use the same scare tactics to wipe out all the smaller events. You can be sure that once an event is cancelled by police action, it will be a hell of a battle to get it back again. I don't get involved in other peoples club politics, but now the police are bringing a lot of people into the matter by threatening the events we want to attend.

Banning an event or imposing serious restrictions will piss off a lot more than club members. I would have thought that would not be in the best interests of the public. Especially when you consider the amount of money that is spent locally before, at and after the Bulldog. Local petrol stations and shops will suffer as well as the biking scene.

You all know that those that don't ride, hate to see us having fun.

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Police in Bulldog bash objection
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UK - Police are objecting to the granting of a licence for this year's Bulldog Bash, a biker festival in Warwickshire.

Warwickshire Police says it cannot give reasons for its objection because it could prejudice an ongoing court case.

In August 2007 Gerry Tobin, 35, a mechanic from London, was shot dead on the M40 near Gaydon after leaving the event at Long Marston Airfield.

Seven men deny his murder and and are due to face trial in October, which could last up to eight weeks.

The licence application for the Bulldog Bash is due to be heard by Stratford-on-Avon District Council in two weeks.

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thin end of the wedge this.

trouble is they get one closed on them grounds and thats it all others will be easy targets

sad sad thing
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thin end of the wedge this.

trouble is they get one closed on them grounds and thats it all others will be easy targets

sad sad thing
Indeed, and it will be all rallies not just the ones with links to any of the big clubs.

Looks like its all round to CherryB's for a party then!
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:20 AM
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It seems that the 1% clubs are being targeted rather than all shows. If you think first the Patriots MC Doo then this.
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I suppose after the cancellation of Ink and Iron this was to be expected.Trouble now is the Bulldog could be next and then any other rally where the police say they cannot guarantee public safety.
I just wonder how long rallying has left before they are all banned on public safety grounds. I believe Stormin the Castle organisers are still waiting to get their licences for the new site. We will see what happens.
We were just saying te same thing in the pub last night.
Stormin have there licence for the new site,but they did have to apply twice as there was objections from locals.
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Wouldn't surprise me if it does get cancelled, if the outcry comes also from local traders, who'll lose £1000s.
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It's not just local traders who suffer. There's a whole community of traders who specialise in bike rallies. They are already struggling this year and many are looking forward to RBCS and the Bully to drag their finances out of the doldrums. After last year's ****e weather this could spell the end for many small businesses
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Old 01-05-2008, 10:36 AM
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Lemmy the traders now been struggling teh last few years - i know we have lost a load of good friendly rally traders and another one i recently found when i went to visit them and book them for my rally, Fens leather. no longer do rallies.

As for the large established rallys I think this is the start to ban them all. They have been trying for years to find a good reason and unfortuantly events last year just gave them the amunition to do this.

Altho i have never been to the rock n blues (but did the first 5 bulldogs) I hope they manage to win an appeal. After all if tehy get away with these high profile events it will almost certainly mean they will start on the smaller events as well.
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Oh my god, perish the thought that we may have to start loading the bikes up and actually planning somewhere to go, up the Yorkshire Dales or Lake District, and amuse ourselves by drinking cans round a fire and bullshítting rather than go to the same twenty carbon copy pre-organised little festivals with the same stalls, same bands, same complaints about the food and the prices.
Actually revert to being bikers rather than the mini festival goers on two wheels that everybody's become.

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Taff the last time we planned a little trip out on the bikes to the dales you bottled out!!


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Oh my god, perish the thought that we may have to start loading the bikes up and actually planning somewhere to go, up the Yorkshire Dales or Lake District, and amuse ourselves by drinking cans round a fire and bullshítting rather than go to the same twenty carbon copy pre-organised little festivals with the same stalls, same bands, same complaints about the food and the prices.
Actually revert to being bikers rather than the mini festival goers on two wheels that everybody's become.

you'll be wanting people to sleep under the stars and wee in bushes next
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Only when i heard you'd be there.....
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Only when i heard you'd be there.....
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would be interested to know what the thoughts are of the traders and locals etc at stratford upon avon are about this, shurely this would be a major blow to their economy as well??

either way its a pathetic excuse to use, do they think that cancelling these events will stop any actions etc by the groups concerned?? methinks not

how many people get injured at football matches?? have they cancelled football yet, should do tho, but thats just coz I hate the game

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told ya so ???????????
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Oh my god, perish the thought that we may have to start loading the bikes up and actually planning somewhere to go, up the Yorkshire Dales or Lake District, and amuse ourselves by drinking cans round a fire and bullshítting rather than go to the same twenty carbon copy pre-organised little festivals with the same stalls, same bands, same complaints about the food and the prices.
Actually revert to being bikers rather than the mini festival goers on two wheels that everybody's become.

Must agree with Taff.
I am sick of the same formats at rallies and the best nights i have had have been simply the club and a camp site.
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