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Old 04-05-2007, 10:41 AM
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Question Leathers or textiles?

After me accident a month ago trashed me Winter textile trewsers, I've been wearing me leather kek which are much colder. As the weather's getting warmer now and not being a fan of having 'nads that look like Niagra, I've been considering wearing textiles (some Richa ones and Draggin' Jeans) with MX knee armour underneath and, indeed, did a few hundred miles the other day dressed in such a manner.

Then, last night, I was up at Kings Lynn speedway photographing mini-motos (www.motokl.org.uk) and I got talking to the bloke who runs the place. He says that now 99.9% of the speedway riders wear kevlar suits rather than leather ones, but that he doesn't rate them. He says that, having seen the state of the suits after spills (which take place in excess of 75mph usually), he'd much rather the riders went back to wearing leathers (they won't, it's a weight issue thing).

It's made me think - my last textile pair of keks protected me arse reasonably well. I got a slight friction burn (or maybe a graze/gravel rash, dunno really), but the textiles were trashed. I know leather is safer - if it wasn't GP riders n' the like wouldn't be wearing it - but it is seriously sweaty in warm conditions. Before yesterday I would have quite happily ridden in armoured textiles, but now I'm not so sure. I know the chances of coming off are quite slight, but I am still mildly paranoid after the events of Easter Monday.

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Old 04-05-2007, 10:52 AM
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Personal choice, Nik. I was a staunch bomber jacket and jeans type of gal until Jester came off. He was wearing a textile jacket with reinforced shoulder / elbows and I have no doubt that it saved him from any real injury.

I've always had a thing about ankles on bikes so will never ride in anything that doesnt completely cover my ankles but trouser wise, I'm a bit slack (boom boom) On a long run if it's not scorching hot, I'll wear leather lace ups.

Advances in textile manufacture mean that quality and durability are constantly improving I think and becoming more affordable *but* follow what the race guys do, I guess. If they start wearing textiles, it's only then that I would assume that science has overtaken the protection given by leather.

Depends if your bias is towards comfort or safety, Mr Samson
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:55 AM
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I don't really fall off enough to give an opinion.and if I did I don't do much more than 70 ...but I wear leathers, well not too keen on the trousers, but as long as you can wear something under them you won't stink..and you can always leave the front partially unzipped...if you fall off the front doesn't seem to be the bit you land on... John
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:58 AM
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for and against on both down to rider choice really
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:00 AM
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I wear leather jeans for stunting and long distance thrashes, but just jeans otherwise. Can't be bothered with waterproofs these days, just get wet cos i'm 'ard!!!!
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Old 04-05-2007, 05:09 PM
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I wear leather jeans for stunting and long distance thrashes, but just jeans otherwise. Can't be bothered with waterproofs these days, just get wet cos i'm 'ard!!!!
I wear jeans, sometimes two pair if I'm feeling a bit of a wimp..(it's not the gravel rash, it,s the embarrassment of climbing back on the bike as if nothing happened before the blood flows) and I carry waterproofs in my backbox...but who stops their bike to change into waterproofs...by the time you notice the rain and find a safe place to stop you are already soaked...so they have never been worn...hope they fit when I do put them on... John
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Old 04-05-2007, 05:17 PM
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NIk with your recent record, you better stick to the leather. The rest of us could get away with textiles, but stick to dead cow mate.
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Old 04-05-2007, 05:26 PM
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NIk with your recent record, you better stick to the leather. The rest of us could get away with textiles, but stick to dead cow mate.
Doncha mean military grade kevlar/carbon/ceramic mix body armour?
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Old 04-05-2007, 06:08 PM
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Hood Jeans make a nice Aramid lined set of Jeans with velcro in Knox body armour.....and they don't cost an arm and a leg....
http://www.hoodjeans.co.uk/
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:18 PM
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I usually wear leather jeans and a textile jacket. My leather jacket has shrunk recently (OK, I've put on weight!) so I'm sticking with the textile jacket for now. It saves me having to stop to put on waterproofs and they are cool in summer and warm in winter.

And I only ever wear Altberg boots when riding. One Hundred per cent waterproof and tough as old boots (see Minxy, even I can make naff puns )
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NIk with your recent record
how about heavy duty armour
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I'm vege but I will continue to wear leather as there is no matching or better protection available at this present time.

If I was forced to move away from leather then it would denim with armour.
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with this spring being so warm I have been in the hood jeans earlier than usual, only used warm gloves once this winter
prefer this and textile jacket which stuffs into pannier at end of ride for comfort
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I have a pair of them Hood jeans, and while I haven't yet had an off wearing them they seem pretty good for all but the very hottest days. You also get pockets for optional knee and hip armour should you wish.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:55 PM
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I tend to wear leather for most rides, although I use kevlar in the bad winter weather. I have been looking at the options to leather trousers for the summer simply for comfort; leather is okay while you're riding but then when you stop it is 'boil in the bag' time!
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usually I only do jeans and a jacket if it's freezing.. i've been off the road more than on for the last 12 months and have to admit when it was foggy I was on the motorway in leathers and textile 3/4 jacket.

I will get some hood or draggin jeans and an amoured bomber with the next bike.
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:41 PM
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I'm vege but I will continue to wear leather as there is no matching or better protection available at this present time.

If I was forced to move away from leather then it would denim with armour.
Also veggie but wear leather when needed because when it comes down to it between me and the cow .... the cow gets it!

Having said that, my big leather trousers are too big, and my small leather trousers now do up (first time in 7 years...) but I can't sit down in them yet... so I am wearing my trusty hein gericke waterproof textile jobs.

As far as jackets go, there's no competition for me - the textile one gets most wear and is fecking gross - its covered in dead flies and smells like it needs a good wash.... but it keeps me dry and safe! I like my leather but it doesnt FEEL safer than my huge textile one.

Once heard that the reason leather is better than textile is because it skids on the road whereas textile sticks to the road and can make you bounce....
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:03 PM
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textile with armour is ok, i usually wear leather though. still get the shivers when i think back to me sis in laws crash. wearin jeans with leggins on, ended up with no knees and a well worn down arse from a tank slapper incident at no more than 60mph.
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