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Old 10-04-2007, 08:31 AM
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get down to Scally's Pub in Weston - meet like minded ... go to rallies.

IMO the more rallies ya go to, the more people you meet and get to know.
Some friends of ours we only EVER meet @ Rallies, this makes rally season for me and missus ... sh1t, aint seen you since we got drunk last year..


http://www.scallys.co.uk/

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Old 10-04-2007, 06:03 PM
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I've never understood why, in the last few years, there's been loads of newish "designations" (for want of a better word) for clubs i.e RC, BC etc. Seems to be no different from an MCC as far as I can see.
A lot of RC's and BC's start as splitoffs from an MCC. Not saying every one is, but I can name quite a few...

As people get older and a club has been going for a few years, there will start to be cliques forming. Whereas in the beginning EVERYONE was rallying EVERY weekend - now some are rallying occasionally due to family, work or personal commitments.

Let this fester for a while, and eventually it will come to a head with 'No-one pulls their weight in this club any more we never get any club turnout trophies' and similar whingeing from the Still Rallying Every Weekend clique.

Alowed to fester some more unchecked - it will explode and the SREW clique will leave the MCC en masse and become a RC. And if / when the original MCC folds, there will be a few who Just Don't Want To Move On who will stick together and form a BC.

Meanwhile, 'Brotherhood' in the club name tends to generally pitch your tent in the middle ground between MCC and MC, so is best avoided if you don't want the politics that go with the camping ground...
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:10 PM
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A lot of RC's and BC's start as splitoffs from an MCC. Not saying every one is, but I can name quite a few...

As people get older and a club has been going for a few years, there will start to be cliques forming. Whereas in the beginning EVERYONE was rallying EVERY weekend - now some are rallying occasionally due to family, work or personal commitments.

Let this fester for a while, and eventually it will come to a head with 'No-one pulls their weight in this club any more we never get any club turnout trophies' and similar whingeing from the Still Rallying Every Weekend clique.

Alowed to fester some more unchecked - it will explode and the SREW clique will leave the MCC en masse and become a RC. And if / when the original MCC folds, there will be a few who Just Don't Want To Move On who will stick together and form a BC.
Sorry, but that still doesn't answer me question. Why the need for the different "types" - RC, BC etc. What you've described is basically 2 different MCCs - one that does loads of rallies and one that doesn't. My point is that for years we've all known what MCs are and what MCCs are. Just because you call it a BC, RC or even a bleedin "Social Club" (as I've seen one or two bike clubs do) doessn't mean it's anything new or different.

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I think its down to commitment , or the lack of it .
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:13 PM
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I think its down to commitment , or the lack of it .
So an RC's like an MCC but with more comittment? Sorry if I'm being thick but I really can't see the difference.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:15 PM
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Well i am one of thwe founders of Northumberland Bikers,nowe into our 16th year.
Started simply so we could have a name for our Egg Run,cos people kep't asking,and so we could meet once a month and sort out ralliesd ,who,when,what time, where etc.
Easier with everyone in the same room.
Only have 4 rules.
1.Must ride a bike or trike or regular pillion.
2. Must enjoy a party.
3.Same as rule 2 but harder.
4.No more rules.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:40 PM
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What you've described is basically 2 different MCCs - one that does loads of rallies and one that doesn't.
Exactly that. RC is MCC with LESS commitment to the MCC club structure / objectives, but attending more rallies - hence Rally Club.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:46 PM
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OK, but (sorry if I'm doing this one to death, don't mean to) if they're both basically MCCs, albeit with different aims, why the need for the tag - BC, RC or whatever? I mean, MCCs are different to each other anyway, they don't ALL have exactly the same aims, structure etc.

All I mean is it's a bit like the old cliché about eskimos having 40 different words for snow. No offence intended to anyone but I just don't see the need to try and say "we're different" just by inventing supposedly new types of club.
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:25 PM
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What a crock of old shíte.
There are back patch clubs, somewhere side patch MC clubs seem to have slipped in and filled a niche, and there are MCCs.
A break off from an MCC, is a group of mates, or another MCC.
This making up of bullshít club labels is just to appear a little different and detached from regular MCCs, which they ain't.
ALL MCCs are different to each other in their own way, they don't all need a specific label, or are all the RCs, SCs, BCs and whatever other flannel they invent tied together in some underworld not really an MCC secret society?
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a bit like mcc and mc used to mean the same thing a few years ago both mean motorcycle club.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:20 PM
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Patch clubs use MC as 'Motorcycle Club' because that's what was used in the States when the outlaw type clubs first originated. Even by the time specifically English chapter only clubs were born, MC was already established as the thing to wear on the back of your jacket, and it stuck.
In the parallel dimension known as the UK, and a sight earlier, the english were starting Motor Cycle Clubs, MCCs, disinterested and alienated from this strange new 'outlaw culture' from across the pond, and thats what they called 'em and that's what they'll stay.
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A break off from an MCC, is a group of mates, or another MCC.
This making up of bullshít club labels is just to appear a little different and detached from regular MCCs, which they ain't.
ALL MCCs are different to each other in their own way, they don't all need a specific label, or are all the RCs, SCs, BCs and whatever other flannel they invent tied together in some underworld not really an MCC secret society?
Exactly what i was trying to say, well put.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:15 PM
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I thought MC stood for Motorcycle Chapter,hence the outlaw connection.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:52 PM
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Thought wrong then dint ya...
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Thought wrong then dint ya...
Hmm,looks like it.
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:31 PM
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As retro is in here's a traditional motorcyclists club circa 1920 in Kettlewell

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Old 13-04-2007, 12:38 AM
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As retros in heres a traditional motorcyclists club circa 1920 in Kettlewell

Outside the very same pub circa 1995;

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Old 13-04-2007, 10:28 AM
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Nice one that.
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Old 13-04-2007, 07:22 PM
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Love the pictures, incredible to see the same place, so many years apart and still with bikers hanging out there.
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Old 13-04-2007, 07:39 PM
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I know that when we started our club (wich was) we used the wording Motorcycle Club on the patch in words not abbreiviations, And that was the only thing which raised a eyebrow At the HA club house in Bristol, when asked Why, I simply replied most MCC's for get what the words mean and turn into Motor car clubs, which got a smirk and the answer fair enough. But then we never had any intention of changing from what we were. Or tread on any toes.
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Old 13-04-2007, 07:47 PM
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Good answer.
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Old 14-04-2007, 10:39 AM
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Motor car clubs.
I like that and sadly so often true.
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Old 14-04-2007, 07:21 PM
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Motor car clubs.
I like that and sadly so often true.
ditto-like he said
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I've got a mate who is in a brotherhood club, which seems a good set-up. They also sit on one of the Motorcycle coalitions but are not allied to any backpatch club.

However when I was an active member of my club (MCC) various local brotherhood clubs came and went, but they all seemed to get very political, and be a recruiting ground for the nearest backpatch club. In my club the chairman handles all dealings with the local backpatch clubs, they invariably turn up at the rally for a drink, scope around then slope off after an hour or two.

As the rally was getting really popular we limited the numbers and for the past 5 or 6 years have never advertised it, it sells out in a fortnight normally. We did so because the local backpatch started offering to do security and basically took more of an interest than was healthy for our club as we have no political leanings.

Personally I wouldn't mind being in a brotherhood club, if I could find the right one for me, at some point in the future. However it may not happen as I certainly haven't found anything that fits the bill round here (Norfolk).
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Old 18-04-2007, 08:02 PM
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Well I've just joined a club. I'm now a paid up member of the Norton Owners Club. Can someone pass me my pipe and my rivet counting abacus?
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Old 18-04-2007, 08:36 PM
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what's a brotherhood club versus mcc, rc, mc?
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Old 19-04-2007, 12:18 AM
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what's a brotherhood club versus mcc, rc, mc?
As I said on page 4 - read Womble's dissertation --> HERE

"...The easy way to think about it is a ladder

I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO ANY CLUB BY THIS IT IS THE WAY IT IS.

We have a ladder

On the bottom rung you have MCC’s MRC’s both side & front patch

Next rung you have the clubs like the Brotherhood clubs

At the top you have the MC’s..."
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Old 19-04-2007, 06:18 AM
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Ain't bad that, can't say i agree with everything, but least it pertains to the British scene unlike most of these things. My only reservation is the 'back patch brotherhood', if it ain't a three piece patch, with top rocker, centre patch, and area rocker, then it aint no different to a side patch club to me, just wants to set itself apparently above the others by sticking it on the back without the usually associated 'feet in deep water' commitment that goes with carrying a bona-fide backpatch. It's a get out clause, to look like a patch club when at a rally or biker party, but with the get out clause of 'well actually we're a brotherhood club, not an outlaw club', when things come on top.
I know, i know, why not just get on our bikes and ride and have fun. Why not indeed, that option's never disappeared and never will, you only encounter this club heirarchy and politics if you want to, if you just wanna ride and rally, it should never encroach into your world.
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As an observation, there is a common and recurring fact in this and all similar threads concerning wearing a patch, whether side, back, front or on your arse should you so desire. As sure as there is **** in a goose, if you wear a patch, you will encounter politics. Maybe not immediately, but inevitably. Depending where you put it may just speed up the process.
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