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Old 02-02-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Easy Clutch - they're pants!

Bought one Weds, it broke while it was being fitted. Fixed it. Lasted about thirty miles before it broke again. In bin now ...

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Old 02-02-2007, 04:39 PM
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??? and whats an easy clutch??
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Their designed to lighten the clutch and make action quicker on motocrossers. I think Nik may have been trying to lighten the clutch on say a Gsx1100 or something simalar, thay are not designed for that meant for tiny motocross clutches, stop being so cheap Nik with the money your on Buy a Hydraulic to cable converter details from NABD and use a hydraulic master cylinder.

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Old 02-02-2007, 06:41 PM
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Their designed to lighten the clutch and make action quicker on motocrossers. I think Nik may have been trying to lighten the clutch on say a Gsx1100 or something simalar, thay are not designed for that meant for tiny motocross clutches, stop being so cheap Nik with the money your on Buy a Hydraulic to cable converter details from NABD and use a hydraulic master cylinder.

It says on the box actually, Shaggy, 'suitable for most modern bikes', not just motocrossers ...

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Old 03-02-2007, 12:16 PM
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Old 03-02-2007, 12:26 PM
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Old 03-02-2007, 12:52 PM
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they do em for harleys too me mates had one on his shovel for years seems to work ok

dont look like the thing in the photie though
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:13 PM
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they do em for harleys too me mates had one on his shovel for years seems to work ok

dont look like the thing in the photie though
The Harley ones are about 120, these things are about 15. Met loads of people who swear by them, but it couldn't handle the big clutch in the EFE.
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:19 PM
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yet your so poor you threw it away rather than send it back for a refund ?
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:18 PM
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i couldn't handle the big clutch in the EFE.
weedy, limp wrists, Mr Sampson??
you wanna try riding a Jota!!
a couple of months of hoonin' about on it'll soon build your wrist muscles up. just make sure you find neutral at the traffic lights for the first couple of weeks!!
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yet your so poor you threw it away rather than send it back for a refund ?
The bloke who sold it to me, mate, did more than three hours work on it yesterday to get it back on the road for me for nowt - I'm not going to quibble over 15 with him.
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weedy, limp wrists, Mr Sampson??
you wanna try riding a Jota!!
a couple of months of hoonin' about on it'll soon build your wrist muscles up. just make sure you find neutral at the traffic lights for the first couple of weeks!!
Very broken ones, mate - left one once, right one twice and currently has big metal plate holding it together.

I've ridden Jotas - their clutches aren't as bad as this one.

Neutral? From first while the engine's running? Maybe three times out of ten ...
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Old 03-02-2007, 07:38 PM
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Very broken ones, mate - left one once, right one twice and currently has big metal plate holding it together.

I've ridden Jotas - their clutches aren't as bad as this one.

Neutral? From first while the engine's running? Maybe three times out of ten ...
oooh, same wrist breakages as me!
no metal plates tho!

maybe the clutch needs a good overhaul??
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Old 03-02-2007, 07:58 PM
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If its the same engine as when it ran a turbo , he prob put in heavier springs, Nik if the clucth is that heavy give the bike to me and By a yamaha passola, Limp wristers ......

Heres one for you , its even been ratted too .................

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lol

EFE clutches are fer 'ard bastids with a strong wrist
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oooh the raw power of a passola

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Old 05-02-2007, 05:41 PM
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Been trying to find out about NABD hydraulic clutch thing, but not heard owt yet. Any of you NABDies tell me summat about it?

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Old 05-02-2007, 05:42 PM
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If its the same engine as when it ran a turbo , he prob put in heavier springs
Naa, y'think?

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Maybe I'm a complete nob(shut up at the back) but didn't bmw do cable to hydraulic fitted under tank.Kwak did a z(9or thou ) the same.

Don't gsxr hydraulic fit?

Alter lever ratio?

Change master/slave size?

Twist clutch if that action easier than pulling?

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Old 05-02-2007, 05:55 PM
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Maybe I'm a complete nob(shut up at the back) but didn't bmw do cable to hydraulic fitted under tank.Kwak did a z(9or thou ) the same.
That's an idea - thanks, I'll look into that.

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Don't gsxr hydraulic fit?
Nope, not straight off, would need lots of work and there may be an easier way first, y'know?

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Alter lever ratio?
Tried that ...

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N/A, not hydraulic at mo'

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Twist clutch if that action easier than pulling?
Interesting idea ...

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easier than pulling?
When your as ugly as Nik, everything is easier than pulling.........

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When your as ugly as Nik, everything is easier than pulling.........

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You're off my Christmas card list ...

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Guzzi V50 had cable to hydraulic too
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:30 PM
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Thanks, that might be worth a look at too.
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Hi Nik,


Seems to me your trying to solve the problem arse about face.

Real problem is your wrist is feked.What about a powershift mechanism,one that cuts ignition momentarily and shoves into gear.Ignition on full throttle still.What about that sad bloke veggie dave-didn't he used to drag-ooer duckie

Airshift would work,swing arm as air reserve.Two buttons on bars or however they work it.NABD gotta be worth a shout.

I'm sure one of advertisers would love to feature how fab there air shifter is on a road bike long term for a break in ad fees?? Rules are there to be worked around.Blag a free one-you know you want to!!

Presume you've been on OSS and asked that rabble(hi guys!!)

Is it like a gsx 750 mechanism ie a short arm on top of the crankcases.Would extending the arm improve matters.Seen one of them converted to hydraulic by using rear brake cyl on side bolted to top of cases.Bloke to track down for that would be Jim Ord think he is herts ncc.Used to run alot of gsx 750s.

Do you use your rear brake? Clutch could be hooked up.Imagine feckin' hilarious on a hill start ,not.

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why not try a hydraulic / cable slave cylinder from a piaggio typhoon moped there are quite small and cheap
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Old 08-02-2007, 08:51 PM
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'ello Reg.
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Old 09-02-2007, 07:42 AM
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Hello Reg ( its Bolton by the way) in case you was wondering
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Hello Reg, how's you?
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