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right then, how do i start........what i mean is, if i was spraying a bike and wanted a celtic desisgn on the tank, would it be better to airbrush it with a stencil or tape the tank up and use another colour over the top....any ideas
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right then, how do i start........what i mean is, if i was spraying a bike and wanted a celtic desisgn on the tank, would it be better to airbrush it with a stencil or tape the tank up and use another colour over the top....any ideas
well i was watching the american biker build-off thing the other day and the had masking tape stuff, drew on it and cut out pattern with a sharp blade
then sprayed it l.ooked like even i could do it

So it probably a lot harder and a lot more complicated than that so dont listen to me

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well i was watching the american biker build-off thing the other day and the had masking tape stuff, drew on it and cut out pattern with a sharp blade
then sprayed it l.ooked like even i could do it

So it probably a lot harder and a lot more complicated than that so dont listen to me

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well i see something ike that and it looked easy, so no dought brain surgery is a piece of piss compared to doing that
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well i was watching the american biker build-off thing the other day and the had masking tape stuff, drew on it and cut out pattern with a sharp blade
then sprayed it l.ooked like even i could do it

So it probably a lot harder and a lot more complicated than that so dont listen to me

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but would'nt putting a sticky backed tape onto fresh paint pull it off and fuck the undercoat up or is it a case of leaving the paint to cure for a day or 2
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Might be worth having a look at this stuff. Not exactly airbrushing but some useful info and supplies
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This is the masking strips etc they sellmasking tape for airbrush pinstripe etc
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you can buy stencils to do basic airbrushing,flames/tribal stuff use pinstriping tape,it comes in different widths,from 1mm upto 25mm or more depending on wot lines ya want,if ya can get hold of a book called custom paint an graphics some exellent stuff in it,its by j.kosmoski hes the guy that owns house of kolor,or try kustom painting secrets same bloke wrote that as well,
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you would first need to allow the paint to dry and this is normally done in a oven not your kitchen one...

once the paint is fully dry a few days at least you then need to get some good masking tape easypeel stuff or some stencil paper (sticky) lay on tank draw design and use a very sharp stencil knife to carefully cut out the design.

if done right once it's been sprayed and dryed peel of stencil or tape and the pain should be fine.
im no expert but thats how i usaly do it.
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try www.eastwood.com they have stencils on web site,you can use wide maskin tape ,but you need to leave any freshly painted surface at least 24/48 hrs to cure,
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I've got some books on Celtic Knotwork (by George Bain) if that's any good to you. It should be quite easy to make a stencil using masking film.
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I've got some books on Celtic Knotwork (by George Bain) if that's any good to you. It should be quite easy to make a stencil using masking film.
i would'nt mind looking at them mate..................

i will most proberbly get myself a small kit.......i normally paint using rattle cans, so what paint will i need for the air gun..............
also, if anyones got a spare and unused petrol tank i can pratice on....hint, hint
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auto paint,dont use water based it will react to laquer,unless ya usin water based laquers bit obvious that was,try www.houseofkolor.co.uk it tells ya nearest stockist,or try ya nearest auto finishers they,ll tell ya wot ya need,evilbay is a good start area for airbrush guns,loads of different ones,betta off gerrin a gudun to start with,badger are very good,,,
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evilbay is a good start area for airbrush guns,loads of different ones,betta off gerrin a gudun to start with,badger are very good,,,
you have answered my next question....should i use a compressor or will the air in a can get me the right psi 12-15...something like that
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compressor every time,ya can buy a continuos air compressor,(ie)it aint got a reciever tank on it,,,,,or if ya go to your local koi carp place they do a compressor for 80 cont,its got 10 valves on it all the pipe ya need plug the fukker in instant air,sorted,,,,,,,,,,,small comp will set ya back about 60-80 lrgr one 80-120 quids.
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Don't forget that masking tape comes with different adhesive levels

You don't want to use a too strong adhesive tape as you might pull all the off your tank as my mate did
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i would'nt mind looking at them mate..................

i will most proberbly get myself a small kit.......i normally paint using rattle cans, so what paint will i need for the air gun..............
also, if anyones got a spare and unused petrol tank i can pratice on....hint, hint
Might have one of them too, by the time you come down... off the CM125 - we've got another tank on its way off some breaker who used to be up your way (but is now in Northants).
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I did a rather complicated design on my tank, as a complete amateur.
But had a good advisor.
Photocopied the design, full size, about thirty times.
Cut out the individual parts, each one or a couple if feasible.
Laid 'em on the tank, drew round 'em with a 4B pencil on the black paint.
Laid matt masking film over 'em, flattened it down nice, then drew over the lines onto the film, and cut round it gently with a craft knife blade and peeled it away.
Then again, and again........
The film's low adhesive so it don't leave no gum residue.
What it does leave, wipe off with panel wipe.
When it's rayt, spray it, lightly, better ten light coats than one grett saggy runny one.
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if ya gonna use several colours or so,then a cheaper alternative is to buy yer colours in yer usual rattle tins.....then spay onto the inside of a pot noodle tub or whatever. then when ya have enough to fill the bottle of ya airbrush,decanter it in....it ready to use from tin to bottle...obviously not as vibrant as h.o.c. stuff but a cheaper way to learn...
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Might have one of them too, by the time you come down... off the CM125 - we've got another tank on its way off some breaker who used to be up your way (but is now in Northants).
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excellent advice peep...thanks
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George Bain is the key text for knotwork. For learning to design it its well worth checking out this guy
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Send me your tank and a brief description of what you want.

Alternatively, go to [URL=www.custompaintshop.com] and have a look around. Best paint to use at the mo is autoair.

This site should give you a few answers and a few ideas. Friendly people happy to give advice.

Email me if you want any help, remember, preparation is the key.

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taff,s a gud idea if ya can draw,i,ll tell ya a way to cheat at it,get a pic of wot ya want,get some spray cans ov laquer,every day 3 coats ov laquer ova pic,about 10 coats shud do it,let it dry fer 2-3,days,then soak it fer 2-3 hrs,rub off the white paper,hey presto ya pic,s off ,stick to tank ,spray ova it wi laquer but ya go to blend it in ,,no lumpsn bumps,,that works but its fukkin hard to do it,,,,
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George Bain is the key text for knotwork.
I've managed to use some of George Bain's techniques (and stuff from the book of Kells) for logos I've done...







which became this...



...all on a mac using Illustrator (I used to do them all by hand with pen and ink, but I like transferring all the old world into the new by using a computer - I still plot the points and draw the lines arching over properly).

It's about time I started advertising (I'll get me'sen a website up one of these days) !!!

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Send me your tank and a brief description of what you want.

Alternatively, go to [URL=www.custompaintshop.com] and have a look around. Best paint to use at the mo is autoair.

This site should give you a few answers and a few ideas. Friendly people happy to give advice.

Email me if you want any help, remember, preparation is the key.

Good luck

I use that stuff, very good but if your used to cans and stuff it can be a bit 'different'
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taff,s a gud idea if ya can draw,i,ll tell ya a way to cheat at it,get a pic of wot ya want,get some spray cans ov laquer,every day 3 coats ov laquer ova pic,about 10 coats shud do it,let it dry fer 2-3,days,then soak it fer 2-3 hrs,rub off the white paper,hey presto ya pic,s off ,stick to tank ,spray ova it wi laquer but ya go to blend it in ,,no lumpsn bumps,,that works but its fukkin hard to do it,,,,

Or just buy 'waterslide' paper, you print out what you want let it dry spray with laquar and use it like the old transfers on model planes
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Tell me more Borg, where can I get hold of some of that paper?
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http://www.craftycomputerpaper.co.uk...p%20decals.htm

will show you what it does, I think you can find it cheaper on the net then that.

Have a google in the uk for waterslide paper.

Get the white one if you want white in the design.
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