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Old 04-05-2018, 09:24 PM
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One of the first sports bikes of the time.
That looks very clean and original.

I am having a day off in the garage tomorrow.
Got the new side stand cut out switch from Cradely Kawasaki last week to fit.
So I want to paint the headlight fittings which I've de'rusted and refit them asap. Probably going to use satin black Hammerite which Ive got a couple of tins of. Always handy to have a spare tin or two. Once the headlight is back on and the electrics reconnected, I am going to see if it will turn over. But I need to put some oil through the plug holes into the bores first. There is no fuel in the tank yet, although its fully plumbed in. If it turn's over I will be happy. Then I'll get some full fat Shell petrol and some fuel stabiliser.

If it doesn't turn over, then I'll run a heavy duty battery lead between the battery+ and starter motor+ terminal just as a test. If it turns over by doing that then I know the issue could be the primary power to the solenoid. Already fitted a brand new solenoid and brand new battery/power leads. The starter motor works when I bench tested it.
New battery and its on an Optimiser. Was showing 12.7 V without the ignition on. I've checked and cleaned all earth connections. Could be a power failure in the primary power to the solenoid.
It still could be a failure in starter button.

Another job is to sort out the seat release mechanism so I can safely fit the seat back on the bike. The original seat is in perfect nick.

I hope to get it out into daylight which it hasn't seen in too long
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Old 06-05-2018, 06:34 AM
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hope all goes to plan hos i hate bike electrics that stuff can test the patience of a saint over the last few weeks iv been putting oil down the bores before i even attempted firing on the starter and even had plans in place in case of major probs..............lots of borrowed fire extinguishers lol
on with the fun hope all went well moses
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Old 06-05-2018, 07:47 PM
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It went quite well thanks moblow.

I fitted the new sidestand cut-out switch and I could feel and hear it switching while raising and lowering the sidestand by hand with my head near it. The old one did none of that.

Then I did the final fit of the sleeved nut with the collars for last header pipe.
It worked well and it is a sound solution. I am happy with it.
Rather than have the risk of removing the short stud in an old head, this is a workable fix. I've nipped both nuts up tight. Neither the flange of the sleeved nut or the two stainless spacer washers touch the header pipe tube.

Finished job.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:36 AM
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Is that an allen head bolt, being used as a flange nut/bolt?
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Old 07-05-2018, 07:26 AM
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Is that an allen head bolt, being used as a flange nut/bolt?
It is difficult to describe in a technically correct way. But here goes.....
It is a sleeved nut about 15mm long and the thread goes right to the underside of the allen key head. The stud will only go so far inside of the nut before hitting the underside of the nut head.
The flanged head is tapered on the outside.
This is why I fitted 2 x stainless steel washers because the stud was hitting the nut head inside. The washers raise the nut head further away from the end of the stud.
The two collars had to have 2 x M8 stud holes increased to 12mm diameter to accept the sleeved nut outside diameter + some small tolerance. I didn't want them to be a snug or a tight fit. Needs some room for expansion when the engine it hot, but also I did not want any shear pressure applied to the stud by the nut and its fit in the collars. This is why I filed a flat on each washer so that the washers were not tight up against the header pipe. That would have put lateral pressure (force) against the stud.
I filed the flat on each washer to match the radius of the allen head because I already knew from the dry run that the circular nut head did not touch the header pipe.

I could have found a hex head sleeved nut although that might have had its own problems to overcome.
Because a hex nut has a bigger diameter head that would not have worked in this application.
Because a hex head is bigger you can get sleeved nuts where the thread is for the whole length of the sleeve and the nut head.
So the stud would go right through the sleeved nut. In my situation that would have meant I could have used an ordinary flanged nut, however the stud was too short.

As we all know the theory is one thing, but the reality of how, or if it works might be something else.

One of the difficult parts of the collar installation on the bike is the tight space to get any sized socket bar though the frame and oil lines to and from the oil cooler. This limited the size of bar I could use to a 1/4 socket size bar.
Although I do have a set of adapters to resize up to a 1/2" drive ratchet.
You have to do these things by feel because any meat headed approach ( the large hammer) which I am fully capable of, is unsuitable in this situation. Need to be a bit touchy feely on this not to snap a stud. That usually only comes with experience. ie: having broken bike (or car) things before learning how not to do it

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Some examples of sleeved nuts:

https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...925277277.html

http://www.technicalmetalcorp.com/in...ers-india.html
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Ahhhh ........... the pics of the sleeved nut make it clearer, pictures speak a thousand words and all that
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Ahhhh ........... the pics of the sleeved nut make it clearer, pictures speak a thousand words and all that
Exactly strider.
One picture is worth more than just words.

I've just remembered I've got to do the sidestand extension asap.
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Old 08-05-2018, 04:24 AM
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Ah! Got it in one! I must've been having one of me blonde moments!......
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Old 08-05-2018, 07:53 PM
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Ah! Got it in one! I must've been having one of me blonde moments!......
It must sound a bit geeky with all the part names? But you have to know what your doing.

Now tomorrow is a bike day seeing as the outside temperature is going back down to a reasonable level.
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Old 10-05-2018, 04:34 PM
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Spent some time on the bike.
Got the headlight reassembled and back on the bike after repainting the headlamp level adjuster bracket and cleaning all the special nuts and bolts, but replacing with new stainless steel where I can.
I rerouted some of the wiring inside the headlight so it worked better and I used electrical contact spray on all of the multi connectors plugs before reconnecting. I rerouted the Optimate battery lead to a more suitable location.
Then I refitted the side panels, but I'm having a few issues with getting the seat to clip on. So I need to spend more time with the seat.
Then I remeasured the side stand extension design and marked the cut lines on the MS rectangular box section with a biro on duct tape. The sidestand toe area will be more than standard. This is a 4cm extension to compensate for the longer rear shocks.
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With the sidestand extension I will explain as a go along and show people.
Otherwise the wordage will get messy and long

But the basics are I will cut two slots in the top of the rectangular MS box section for a strong stainless jubilee clip to go through and around the foot of the sidestand. But also to drill through the original sidestand foot and through the box section top for one M4 countersunk bolt and an aircraft nut inside the box section.. So the extension will be bolted and fixed with a strong stainless Jubilee clip.
That's the plan
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Old 16-05-2018, 08:36 PM
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Progress on the sidestand extension.
So pathetic compared to Moblow's work.
But its still progress. Progress means its getting closer to being finished.
Hand tools are great because you've got so much control of what you're doing.
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Old 19-05-2018, 11:50 AM
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looks brilliant to me hos much respect as all i see is a really nice build taking shape..................keep it up hos fantastic stuff
done the valves on the zx9r as she was loosing power and wow what a difference as they were all on bottom limit on exhaust side and one was well below, think my arms are a foot longer bejesus she pulls like a kwak should now.
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looks brilliant to me hos much respect as all i see is a really nice build taking shape..................keep it up hos fantastic stuff
done the valves on the zx9r as she was loosing power and wow what a difference as they were all on bottom limit on exhaust side and one was well below, think my arms are a foot longer bejesus she pulls like a kwak should now.
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Thanks for the pos comments.
Good job done there ! ! Nice to have some power back
Ive knocked meself up doing too much in the garden and twisted my knee badly.
So I am resting on orders !
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Old 21-05-2018, 05:21 AM
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Ouch! The garden can be a dangerous place.....
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Old 21-05-2018, 05:42 PM
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Ouch! The garden can be a dangerous place.....
Indeed Friar there are all sorts of hazards with gardening.
I'm particularly miffed atm because I can't do anything on the bike.
My walking mobility is rather shite anyway and one of my other nicknames endowed upon me by my bike mates is Lurch, bless em
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Old 22-05-2018, 04:58 AM
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Shouldn't go around treading on rakes....
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I'm allowed to use the petrol mower, but nothing with spikes on it.
Oh and I can use the flame weeding thingy
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I've bought one of them brush cutter thingies...haven't used it yet...A - I've still to work out how to start it....B - I'm a little scared of it once I do!.....
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I've bought one of them brush cutter thingies...haven't used it yet...A - I've still to work out how to start it....B - I'm a little scared of it once I do!.....
I'm no nanny state type of bloke but I'd be wearing my safety boots, glasses and long trousers with a brush cutter. They chuck some shite out and at high speed.
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I'm no nanny state type of bloke but I'd be wearing my safety boots, glasses and long trousers with a brush cutter. They chuck some shite out and at high speed.
Ooerr! Now he tells me!.....
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