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Old 29-06-2010, 05:29 AM
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Default any idea what this is?

a mate dragged this from a watery grave in the river just down the road
it's well beyond salvage but i wonder what it was

my guess...... m20 sidevalve single
anyone got any other ideas????

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Old 29-06-2010, 06:57 AM
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Possibly one of these?
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Old 29-06-2010, 09:16 AM
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Which is what?
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Which is what?
My money's on a Panther...
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Copied from website -This is a Red Panther from 1932 to 1939, it is either 248cc or 348cc. I suspect it is a 248cc Red Panther DeLuxe from 1934. If a 250 then this model was the budget version of the Model 40 (Model 30 in 1930-32, later the Model 70). If a 350 then this would be a Red Panther Model 30 which was the budget version of the Panther Model 80 (Model 45 in 1932).

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Old 29-06-2010, 01:56 PM
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Thats a 1939 to 41 spinglebline...made originally by pre pubescent slave labour in Doncaster....thats quite a rare one that you have got there....very similar to the protortype that came with wheels and engine....if you take a closer look at the frame and suspension set up its easy to see why hardley (Davids son) bought all the patents...many of the ideas are indeed still in production... that one would make one hell of a Bobber... go for it...dont forget to post pics of progress...
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Old 29-06-2010, 04:49 PM
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Dunno what it is, but I bet Harris could give it a nice paintjob.

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Old 29-06-2010, 05:50 PM
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good guess with the M20, I reckon. Downtube between engine and gearbox, like the panther, but the gap isnt wide enough for the panther engine

http://buyvintage1.wordpress.com/pag...7-radco-250cc/
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Not an M20.



Not a Panther either, cause Panthers don't have frame rails under the engine.



Difficult to tell, but I'd guess it was something smaller, not unlike this...

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Old 30-06-2010, 09:09 AM
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yeah its called a shuttleworth and it was ridden by george formby...
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its full name was the famouse shuttleworth snap.
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Difficult to tell, but I'd guess it was something smaller, not unlike this...

No it's not..look at the chain sprockets..

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Old 30-06-2010, 09:33 AM
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Me, I haven't got a clue, but just keep posting those tasty pictures of old bikes up!

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Old 30-06-2010, 12:28 PM
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I reckon it's a BSA Sloper and if it is then it's a rarity....

http://motors-bay.com/bsa/71-bsa-sloper.html
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Old 30-06-2010, 12:39 PM
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It could also be a BSA 1000 V-Twin......

http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20...win%282%29.htm
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Old 30-06-2010, 12:43 PM
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But then again it could very well be the aforementioned M20.

http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20...M20%281%29.htm

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It could also be a BSA 1000 V-Twin......

http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20...win%282%29.htm
Don't think so, the BSA 1K has twin Front downtubes.
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I reckon it's a BSA Sloper and if it is then it's a rarity....

http://motors-bay.com/bsa/71-bsa-sloper.html
Nope, the Sloper has a featherbed frame
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I know that, I just fancied posting the link so everyone could share in it's splendour.
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Old 30-06-2010, 01:00 PM
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I know that, I just fancied posting the link so everyone could share in it's splendour.
In that case I'll go for a Rudge

Not because it is one, just because I like them

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Old 30-06-2010, 03:54 PM
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Bsa...blue star...??
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Not because it is one, just because I like them

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Which one, John? The Whitworth or Ulster?
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Old 30-06-2010, 05:20 PM
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The more I look at the Vintage Bike website, the more I am drooling over some seriously good examples of our heritage.

http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/index.htm
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Old 30-06-2010, 05:38 PM
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The down tube looks tapered, it also looks like the rear of the frame is bolted at 3 places to the front section.
so i would say Triumph.
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On second thoughts, from the rust it looks like its off one of those Chinese 125s
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.....fantastic thread !
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On second thoughts, from the rust it looks like its off one of those Chinese 125s
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Old 02-07-2010, 05:19 PM
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is it harley davidsons new 2011 model, the engine is in a pond some where being weathered.
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suggest a beadblast would be worthwhile making the frame numbers easy
to read, once you have those its easy to id the frame n year o manufacture,
once you have that it could be worth a minimum o 50 @ a autojumble n if
somthing very rare then maybe upto a grand. mind fished out o ya local
river suggests its been nicked @ some stage. also no way is it ever a BSA
because all pre unit single bsa frames have the lower oilpump clearence loop as
blackjack has pictured above, unless small capacity such as bantums.......
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