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Old 04-10-2007, 08:15 AM
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Thumbs down I was t-boned last night - UPDATE

Last night, coming home from work, a lady pulled out of a turn to my left and knocked me off.

I was travelling up Holywell Hill in St Albans, and had just reached the part where it becomes two lanes. The traffic in the left hand lane was stopped because of traffic lights, but the right hand lane was empty and I was travelling up towards the lights to turn right.

There is a turn to the left into the Cathedral and there is a hatchings box to keep the turn clear if traffic is stationery. The guy in the left hand lane had left the hatchings clear and a woman just pulled straight out of the turn into my path. When myself and a couple of blokes went to pick the bike up, she had to reverse back a bit, and she reversed straight back into the car waiting to come out of the road behind her.

The guy she reversed into didn't want to hang around or give his details, and someone from the pub across the road reckoned that he was over the limit, although there is no implication that he caused the second accident.

There was a very decent bloke there who gave his details as a witness. The girl was very upset and shocked (it was her first accident) and didn't know what to do and he was very good with her. We both told her that it is only vehicle damage, worse things happen at sea etc. but it was difficult to console her.

Forks bent to buggery and appears to be some kind of leak from the carbs area, although I didn't get to exam it properly as it was dark.

Couple of piccies attached showing her view as she would have come out of the turn and a photo showing that it is a two lane road, just to prove that I wasn't filtering.

Any ideas how it will go, insurance wise? Also, anyone know if Carole Nash organise courtesy bikes? I'm fully comp.

BTW, the Zed is going when it is fixed. There's a hex on that bike, I'm sure.
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:19 AM
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sound slike it was clearly the woman's fault Liz - she hit you while you were stationery and if you got witness thats great.

Dont think I would have been as calm as you if she'd done it to me though.

Dunno about courtesy bike - it depends on the wording on your policy.

whatever, glad your not hurt hun.
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:26 AM
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sound slike it was clearly the woman's fault Liz - she hit you while you were stationery and if you got witness thats great.
Thanks cherryB.

I wasn't stationary though. My lane of traffic (on the main road) was moving.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:26 AM
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Are you ok, Liz?

The bike can be fixed but people take a bit longer to heal.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:43 AM
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Are you ok, Liz?

The bike can be fixed but people take a bit longer to heal.
I'm fine, thank you. Bruised elbow is the sum total of my injuries.

Have to say that my Lidl bike gear was great - not a stitch broken, not even a scuff on the material. Not bad for a jacket that cost 40!
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:18 PM
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Glad you're OK, she's at fault OK, honest really should have seen your headlight coming especially as you travelling slow on approach to lights, she just wasn't concentrating : driving without due care and attention ... 'trois points' at least!
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:40 PM
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Just spoke to Carole Nash who said that it absolutely was her fault. They will be arranging to have the bike picked up (within 24 hours) and repaired with genuine Kawasaki parts, guaranteed for 3 years, and valeted (4-8 weeks). They will also be arranging a hire bike for me.

It turns out that the girl who knocked me over went to Uni with Sprogthing, who gave her a lift to Uni every day during the second year.

Small world.
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:52 PM
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The woman driving the car sounds like a nightmare, two crashes in a few minutes, well you handled it better than i would have
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:01 PM
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I'm fine, thank you. Bruised elbow is the sum total of my injuries.

Have to say that my Lidl bike gear was great - not a stitch broken, not even a scuff on the material. Not bad for a jacket that cost 40!
Excellent news all round then eh.

Take care Liz.
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Old 04-10-2007, 04:15 PM
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you've handled your bang (so to speak ) very cooly and calmly fair play to ya.
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Old 04-10-2007, 04:51 PM
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I'm glad to hear you are ok Liz...I hope it all works out for you...Play the "I've got no confidence in the safety of that bike now" card and they may write it off...Then you can buy whatever you like...and maybe even buy the bike back as spares for very little money...50... John
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:44 AM
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I'm glad to hear you are ok Liz...I hope it all works out for you...Play the "I've got no confidence in the safety of that bike now" card and they may write it off...Then you can buy whatever you like...and maybe even buy the bike back as spares for very little money...50... John
TBH, John, having had a closer look at the bike last night when the repair shop van came to pick it up, it may be an economic write off in any case. The forks will need replacing, as will the end can. The back brake and foot peg have sheared off and there appears to be some kind of oil leakage.

The bike was only MOT'd the day before, so it will be obvious that the damage caused was from the accident.
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:00 PM
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you've handled your bang (so to speak ) very cooly and calmly fair play to ya.

Jesus Mark, is there no subject that is beyond your pervyness? *LOL

Liz glad you are okay. I felt that my divvy was cursed for a while. I think the fact was that it always wanted to be a rat and did it's damndest to get itself there
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:16 PM
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Glad to hear you are OK.....

Some machines are definately cursed. Many years ago I bought a 2.8 Capri (I know it's a car but it is to make a point) that was cursed. For a Capri it was in marvellous condition and totally unmarked or crash-repaired as most of them where. I had it 3 days and had the radio stolen and within a week I had a similar accident to you but with someone turning from the right, as I was moving in the filtered left hand lane. She smashed the whole right hand side of the motor causing over 2,000 worth of damamge. The front of her car was completely ripped off, leaving the battery sitting on the road (still conected) and the engine exposed. I ran up and wanted to punch the driver sensless (I'm not normally violent but a week old car that had cost over three grand was a tad annoying) but when I got there she was blubbing like mad and deep in shock. I repaired the headlamp with the ubiquitous Tesco cake tray and continued to use the car while the insurance faffed about. The Cold start injector would come on whenever it felt like it ie. doing 125 mph down the by pass and said jet kicks in, fuel enriched the car starts to run like shoite and you watch the fuel guage move instead of the speedo needle. The end came when I took it to a track day, what a mistaka to maka! The Mk1 Capri that I had tune when I worked for Cosworths did 115mph, which wasn't bad for an 1100cc crossflow engine and the Escort Mexico rear suspension made sure it stayed on track....... However the 2.8 had far to much power for the crap latter suspension and used to rear wheel steer at every opportunity. I went out on the track against some Opel Monzas, one of which was four-up and going like a looney, I was right on his tail and even some of the 2.8's who had bypassed the rev limiters where having trouble keeping up......
For those who know Castle Coombe track, yopu will know the tight left over a hump and then the tight 'U' turn right almost immeadiately after. I hit the hump at speeds in excess of 100mph. Big mistake, the monza creamed round the hairpin and I slid into the tyre wall at around 90mph shortening an allready overlong car by around 18". I had to leave the car in the car park and the AA where going to bring it home on the Sunday. The car was stolen from there and the police informed me it was on a nearby airfield. The thief who knicked it had gone off to get some tools to remove the alloy wheels and some thieving b*stards had stolen it, so he did the right thing and phoned the cops,Doh! They eventually caught three blokes driving it just outside Bristol, One was driving, one was standing up through the sunroof to help navigate (bonnet was folded up and hard to see over) and one was in the boot to lift the nose and allow the wheels to turn in the damaged wheel arches. The garage admitted liability for losing it and paid me 800 and the insurance came through for the accident gamage for 2,200, so I got three grand back and got rid of a curse.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:31 AM
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It's official - it's a write off!
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:24 PM
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Glad you're OK Liz, just look forward to getting your new bike now.
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