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Old 30-10-2009, 04:30 PM
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Default Bloody Datatool alarm

Recently got a Suzi RF900 that's fitted with a datatool alarm.

Does anyone know how to disable the bloody thing because every time there's a stiff breeze the sodding thing goes off... driving me mental
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Old 30-10-2009, 06:06 PM
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Try one of these...

http://www.alpineroads.com/t595/datatool/index.htm

Its the blanking plug to remove the alarm

Alarms are a waste of time. No one takes any notice. Thats why insurers don't rate them any more.
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Old 30-10-2009, 06:31 PM
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That's for a triumph which use Datatools from the factory and so just plug into the loom. (Which don't sound very thatcham approved to me?)

Fitted to an RF9 it'll be an aftermarket install with all black wires soldered into the loom so it's a cunt to remove.

What about if you arm the alarm then press the other button. From memory that leaves the immobiliser & current drop active but disables the movement sensor?
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Old 30-10-2009, 07:18 PM
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every time there's a stiff breeze the sodding thing goes off... driving me mental:
and just when your putting the chain thro the forks, or getting something out of the saddlebags it arms itself then feckin goes off.
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Old 30-10-2009, 11:36 PM
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Tried the arming and triangle button on the fob as suggested in the manual.. but it just doesn't work.

The missus swore at it a lot (she's from yorkshire) then hit it hard (she's from Yorkshire!!!) and it seems to have shut up???????????

It's OK until I try putting the cover on it... then any movement of said cover sets it off.. so it's out in the sodding rain now
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After my accident on the Duke the alarm armed itself & would not allow the bike to start. I went through the wiring diagram of the bike & found the live feed to the alarm from the ignition switch. I removed the wire and shut the alarm off. I don't know if it will work on your bike, but worth a try....
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Old 01-11-2009, 10:12 PM
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If the alarm/Immob issues are as annoying as the ones I've had then its worth stripping the body panels off the bike and tracing the alarm loom and totally removing the lot and getting loom back to standard . Done it to my old gsxr and 2 of my mates bikes because they were equally fed up with the Datatool systems . If its gonna get knicked then it will be lifted into a van and gone , alarm going or not .
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Old 01-11-2009, 10:32 PM
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Got a datatool system 3 on me pan with a snitcher wired to it.

Works well for me. Leave the ignition switched on when loading / unloading and fitting other security devices.

The left button turns off the motion sensor on mine without problem.

Only had one false alarm and that day we had 60 mph winds.

Yeah agree most people ignore alarms, but the snitcher sends a text to my phone when the alarm goes off or if it's own motion sensor, which is more sensitive than the alarms, is triggered.

Handy especially when I have to leave the bike in hotel carparks. (For work)

I like mine but it aint hard to remove just trace each black wire to where it connects to the main loom, at this point will be a cut wire (Same colour wire) and another black wire going back to the alarm. cut the black wires and reconnect the original wires back together. I prefer soldered joints but others will no doubt disagree.

There thats another argument started
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:34 PM
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Ill go with you on the solder joints harry , Better than crimp connecters as far as Im concerned
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lots of arguments for and against bike alarms, the people who nick bikes don't go out alone, usually in groups of at least three, and they become professionals very quickly. They probably know alarms better than you do and the probably carry a can of expanding foam to mute the sounder before they try to move the bike, then they just lift it onto a bike trailer or a van, even a locked garage is no deterrant in fact once they are in they are hidden, and with ebay to sell the stripped parts from they are laughing all the way to the bank. another reason a rat bike is so good.

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Old 02-11-2009, 09:25 PM
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Get a shotgun alarm for the garage, hard to ignore when a shotgun blank fires off a 3 in the morning.......
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Old 13-11-2009, 08:20 AM
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Found where the control box was for my datatool alarm, undone the security screws with a security driver from Maplins and ripped out the siren speaker.

Now the bike will flash its indicators when messed with and still act as an immobiliser but without all the noise.

Much much much much better. Still drains the battery a little.
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If you download the instructions from somewhere there should be a bit that tells you how to adjust the sensitivity I think.. Bloody nuisance datatool alarms though, me bike insurance went up 90 a year when i changed from a bike with alarm/immob/datatag to one with nowt. That's only 40 more than buying a new friggin battery every year and a lot less hassle.

Shotgun alarm mine Yup got me one o them
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Old 13-11-2009, 04:49 PM
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Datatool alarm! What a fantastic idea, sounds when someone tries to steal your bike,stops the bike when they do steal it, can even start the bike for you automatically as you approach the bike. Wow that's amazing, beam me up scotty, we are so clever.

Then they go wrong....

I wouldn't have one if you paid me.

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Old 13-11-2009, 06:09 PM
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Does this help (If I've got the 'putery bit right
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Old 13-11-2009, 07:38 PM
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Got one on my Triumph, its wired in dam good. Tried to have a look at removing it. No chance.

Asked a Triumph dealer about it not really going into service mode and when removing battery it keeps going off.

They said the 'remove cover and un plug the loud thing' action.
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