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Old 24-08-2012, 12:25 PM
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Wife's got one of these and the reg/rec has gone pffft, can get another one but the bloke who owned it before has bodged the wires with different connectors and as the wires plug into the reg/rec it has to be right, anyway what I was after was a pic or even a diagram of which way round the wires go in the plug, its an 'H' reg with an unfinned reg/rec.
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from memory is it just the 4 wires, 3 whites and a red, the whites dont matter how they connect, but obviously the whits gotta go to the right place

just checked my wiring diagram collection, sometimes they actually show the plug and pinout, but it doesnt, a proper workshop one probably will rather than a haynes book of lies
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Old 24-08-2012, 02:16 PM
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If it's got four wires the case is earthed if five one is +12v and one is earth or ground..the other three go to the stator/alternator and it doesn't matter which way round they go.

if the engine is running you can test the alternator by unplugging the three wires and with a multimeter set to 100v a/c connect to any two wires ..expect at least 20v a/c.. repeat for the other two pairs..three wires equals three pairs..to test the reg/rec reconnect the three wires and measure across the battery with the engine off expect 12.5v dc with the engine idling expect the same or a touch more, increase the revs and expect over 13v but under 14.8v..

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Its a four wire job, i get that the 3 same colour wires wouldnt matter where they go but how do you find out where the red would go? Unfortunately only got the Haynes jokebook.
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It has to charge the battery so it goes to the live terminal of the battery or possibly the other end of the same wire which may be the starter solenoid.
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Its a four wire job, i get that the 3 same colour wires wouldnt matter where they go but how do you find out where the red would go? Unfortunately only got the Haynes jokebook.
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You must have the old wires so the to find which one is the red wire just remove the battery + wire and using your multimeter on low ohms it is the one that reads about 1 ohm to that wire you have just removed.

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No trouble with the battery end John, its the end that plugs into the reg/rec.
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if you only have four wires...

three may be the same colour..the odd one will be the 'red' one..

If they are all different colours three of them will read low ohms almost as if they are shorted together, these are the alternator wires, the odd one goes to the battery..

That's if you are wondering which wires go to the reg/rec.

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A quick look at the yamaha owners website, shows that the non finned reg rec has no wires just spade terminals, making identification harder.

However there seems to be a general concensus that this reg rec is crap and it's better to fit the finned one.
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