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Old 02-08-2006, 09:40 PM
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Pretty sure it dropped a valve, as the grinding, squealing sound from the engine did not sound good at all

Not got any savings, so gonna be off the road for quite a while now

Oh well, had a good weekend anyway......

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Old 02-08-2006, 09:47 PM
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Ouch, is it fixable or haven't you investigated it yet?
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Not looked, but from the sound, and the way it was running, im sure its terminal
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Home, happened 5 miles from campsite, so Womble and Mad Dave went to site, unloaded, and Womble towed me to the site

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650 motor innit?
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Yup, CB650 custom, W reg (if this helps)
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If it's just a valve, can you not pull it apart yourself and then get someone else to put the new valve in (if you can't do it)? The price that a shop'll charge for doing the complete job is mostly labour for pulling it apart and putting it back together again.

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Here's a thought mate. Will a CB 750 F2 motor fit? I reckon the 650 motor is rare as rocking horse droppings so it might be worth thinking about fitting the bigger motor.

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more likely that a 550 motor will fit, as (I believe) the 650 is a bored (and stroked?) 550/4. PLus the 750 will need an oil tank and associated plumbing fitting somewhere.
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If it's just a valve, can you not pull it apart yourself and then get someone else to put the new valve in (if you can't do it)? The price that a shop'll charge for doing the complete job is mostly labour for pulling it apart and putting it back together again.

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worth taking the top off for a look, or if you have access to a compression tester that will give you a clue
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:27 PM
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more likely that a 550 motor will fit, as (I believe) the 650 is a bored (and stroked?) 550/4. PLus the 750 will need an oil tank and associated plumbing fitting somewhere.
I did wonder if it was that way round but couldn't be sure either way.

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more likely that a 550 motor will fit, as (I believe) the 650 is a bored (and stroked?) 550/4. PLus the 750 will need an oil tank and associated plumbing fitting somewhere.
I used to have a German Import 650 - not compatible at all with the english version for some reason, so make sure you haven't got one of them...
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I agree with Nik I bought one that had dropped a valve for 200 a few years back, vgc, bought it on the wednesday, took it apart, bought valve on thursday put it back together, rode to Kent custom on friday. did 28000 on it before I flogged it, really is not difficult.
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OK, have took tappet covers off, and i *may* have found the problem, or at least one of them...

The photo is crap (off my mobile) but it has a round, stepped bit of metal wedged under the tappet adjustment screw !!

I have NO idea how it got there, and its wedged real tight, i've tried turning the crank to wiggle it loose, but its not working, and idea's ??
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ask it nicely....
threaten it......
then beat fuck out of it with a big hammer

seriously tho, can you not get a biggish pry-bar under the rocker arm to compress the spring right down, and hook it out with something??
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Sorry there abit big !!

The other question is, WTF is it, and HTF did it get there
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Take the rocker cover off completely and compare it to the other side.
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This site may be of interest to you mate.

http://home.wi.rr.com/kgebauer/cb650c.htm
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its kind of hard to tell but it looks a bit like a valve spring retainer You weent ragging the motor when it went pop were you? Like, into the red zone?
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i was just plling away, so it was preety high revs, and im off to Manchester today, so bike wont be touched now till Monday, cheers for all the advice folks
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OK, some more pics for you all. just gonna post the link things, as there quite big.

As ya can see in the pics, the rocker has broke, and the funny round bit is what held(?) the springs on, and i have no idea where the big round bit has gone !

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Tappet012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Tappet011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...r/Tappet01.jpg
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so, how do i strip the rest of it down, the Haynes book of lies is confusing me
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