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Old 12-07-2011, 03:01 PM
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Default Sept 25 - Day of Protest!

Hi Nik

Further to the meeting I've just had with the chairman of the committee of EU Internal Market and Consumer Protection (IMCO) I now have a better idea of what we are looking at as the Anti Tampering Regulation moves through the EU legislative process.

Amendments are on the table now and being discussed, like giving an opt out for special 'one-off' builders, (but only the British and the Finns want that) and also making ABS compulsory on mopeds too (Germans want that- or rather the German ABS industry wants that). When IMCO finally vote on this (4/5 or 6th Oct) it then goes to Parliament.

As this is a 'Framework Regulation' once passed it does not have to be transposed into Law in Individual Member States, as it will happen automatically.

So, as far as the 25th September Motorway Mayhem day goes, the 10 very real European issues that we still need to draw attention to are:

1- The Anti tampering Regulation: Specifically Article 18 which wants to stop all modifications to complete power train, from airbox to controlling the rear tyre profile.

2- Compulsory ABS. If we can't stop this, we must get a switch so that we have an option in difficult conditions where ABS doesn't function well.

3- Automatic headlights on- passing the blame for poor observation on to us.

4- OBD. On Board Diagnostics so that easy roadside checks can be made of our emissions and so that constant readouts of engine performance can be obtained. Expensive, complicated and with the threat, rather like a tacho, of identifying past riding style...

5- RMI. Repair and Maintenance Information. Rather than keeping it hidden and available for huge expense, there is a chance that manufacturers will be forced to provide ECU codes etc for a fee. What that fee is remains to be seen.

6- The very worrying article 52: "If systems, components or seperate technical units on a list in a delegated act to this regulation, have a dual use, for vehicles intended exclusively for racing on roads and for vehicles intended for use on public roads, they may not be sold or offered for sale to consumers"

So if your K&N filter can fit a CBR race bike and a CBR road bike, the best way to police that, is to make it illegal to sell the filter in Europe.

The Delegated Acts are the most scarey thing, as they are the lists and details drawn up by the unelected and we won't get to see what they are including until after the Regulation has been passed!

7- In solidarity with the French we will be drawing attention to their recent gov proposal to ban all bikes over 7 years old from an urban area and to make the wearing of day-glo/ reflective clothing compulsory.

8- Full sleeve day-glo clothing for riders and passengers has been proposed in the Irish Parliament too.

9- All these issues lead to the same thing, that we must take the blame for the incompetence of other road users. And while the emergency stop has been removed as a compulsory element of the car driving test, we are jumping through hoops with ill judged UK interpretation of EU licencing directives.

10- Another EU licencing Directive is on its way (3DLD) to step the bike licencing system still further and the DfT and DSA still haven't sorted even the consultation process, even though it is meant to be in law by now and enacted January 2013.

Plans for the day (25th Sept) are that all over the country riders meet at midday in M-way services (or suitable similar if there's no motorway to hand) and at exactly 13.00 groups of riders set off to ride perfectly legally at a sedate Sunday 45/50mph on the country's motorway network. Perhaps over bridges, near the confluence of other motorways etc.

The MAG and other websites will carry details of all the meeting places.

It's the simultaneous element that carries the weight, as even 50 bikes together will cause disruption, but happening everywhere across the country will be powerful and will have the traffic alerts discussing it. They'll be primed.

Riders will disperse as rapidly as they appeared, but after riding for a few junctions at below the speed the trucks use, our impact should be felt.

No need for marshalls, no one can go the wrong way.
No hot engines, no speeches, ride as far as you wish
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The threat that we can do it again on a different day of the week will be established.

Our MEPs will be preparing to rubber stamp another regulation put before them. This time they may stop to read it.

Now I appreciate that this may be way too many words for your available space, but anything will be appreciated. If you could let the odd '25th September' appear subliminally throughout the magazine...
Kind regards

Paddy Tyson
Campaigns Co-ordinator
MAG (UK) - Motorcycle Action Group
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:32 PM
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I for one will be joining any protests that are organised. Thanks for the info mate
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:48 PM
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yes i will be on a motorway somewhere thanks for the info
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:41 PM
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:45 PM
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Has Paddy Tyson spoken to the 'noto bikeparking tax' group? They have been screwing up central london every Wenesday for two years now.... it never makes the news

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Old 12-07-2011, 06:46 PM
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See now that's where you go wrong...Publishing this all over the web and the first thing the government will do is arrange for it to piss down with rain on sept. 25th...

Just on the motorways.

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Old 12-07-2011, 07:10 PM
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Hey thats on a sunday , do it on a week day and realy fuck up the road network . Don,t need to many excuses for my lorry to breakdown whilst sitting in protesting bikes , try moving this one copper. Yes a demo on my bike is good but i can block two lanes with my wagon , bit more effective for you eh.
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Old 07-08-2011, 05:11 PM
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Il get a few crazies to join the ride.The dates in the diary!!!!
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:01 AM
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I believe in Thames Valley idea is West Berks Mag are doing Chievely J13 to J11 while Reading do Reading Services/ J11 to J8/9. Wycombe are doing part of M40
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:06 AM
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Does anyone know if there is any in Sussex or Hampshire as I could not find any info.

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Old 08-08-2011, 05:24 PM
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i had word back from a mag rep today saying they are going to issue starting points next week
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:29 PM
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Jus been reading this thread and gotta say i'm saddened but hardly suprised we're getting raped by the EU regs folks again..
If i had a bike on the rd at the moment, i'd defo be up for the 25th, but alas i dont.
Dont know if its already been done or mentioned in a previous thread but, has this been petitioned? Cuz anyone can action a legal petition at the following address http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Diol1/DoItOnline/DG_066327

It needs to be written by someone who has a clear understanding of the proposed regs and ideally be backed up with as much substantial reasoning against the proposed regs. (Nik i'd say you could do this easily) and as much backing as poss by nabd,mag etc..
I'd like to think if a petition was actioned by us, and details posted across as many bike sites as poss you would get a considerable amount of signees.
gotta be worth a shot???
This link may also be of use... http://www.parliament.uk/get-involve...y/petitioning/

and apologies if this has already been done, i'm outta the loop since i'm bikeless.... but surely yet another petition might help towards the cause..

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Old 08-08-2011, 06:55 PM
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i had word back from a mag rep today saying they are going to issue starting points next week
That's good to hear!
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