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Old 19-08-2007, 10:40 PM
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Sometimes it makes me blood boil. There's no wonder Harley owners get a bad name and its the reason we dont belong to any clubs.

A mate, who owns a Harley has asked a well known HD club, if he can attend their main Rally event in Oswestry next week, and bring his wife who rides a Kawasaki.

And guess what they said - 'NO' and the reason they gave - 'its the rules' - ya have to be on a Harley or an Indian and the other reason is that the insurance is only for Harley or Indian. Wot a crock of ****e !!! I'm sure Insurance at such events doesnt cover individual bikes or owners possessions. Its only for public liability and to cover the club against any law suits for damages.

And no, this wasnt a Hoggie event but a club who reckon to shun all that Hoggies stand for Hmm pot, kettle and black springing quickly to mind.

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Old 19-08-2007, 10:44 PM
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I totaly agree with you, but
I`ve been to loads of the HDRCGB rallies and they do let japs and trumps in, but this is their international harley rally, so harley only rules apply to it.
was going to go meself till i found out its 30 in
sod that
must say the HDRCGB is a good rally, they put some good do`s on and are open minded and easy to get on with, some of their rallies i`ve been to there has been more japs than harleys, and one i went ot in the lake district there were more triumphs as the trumpit owners club turned up




oh and they do insure for bike theft at their events, as it does happen
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Old 19-08-2007, 11:07 PM
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still dont agree with it, specially if hub owns a harley and his wife doesnt. A lot of women progress to Harley once they have passed their test and ridden a few different type cruisers, as they find Harleys too heavy and a bit intimidating. Or sometimes it comes down to money.

30 quid to get in is a bit steep when you consider what the Bull Dog offered for 50. Do they serve caviar and smoked salmon for breakfast for that
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Old 19-08-2007, 11:15 PM
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still dont agree with it, specially if hub owns a harley and his wife doesnt. A lot of women progress to Harley once they have passed their test and ridden a few different type cruisers, as they find Harleys too heavy and a bit intimidating. Or sometimes it comes down to money.

30 quid to get in is a bit steep when you consider what the Bull Dog offered for 50. Do they serve caviar and smoked salmon for breakfast for that
very suprrised they didn`t as its his wife


no cav thats why i1m not going
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A lot of women progress to Harley once they have passed their test and ridden a few different type cruisers, ...
Not a chance in hell that I'll ever take that "progressive" step!

And it's not size, inexperience etc. It's because I don't like them.
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Old 20-08-2007, 10:36 AM
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And guess what they said - 'NO' and the reason they gave - 'its the rules' - ya have to be on a Harley or an Indian and the other reason is that the insurance is only for Harley or Indian. Wot a crock of ****e !!! I'm sure Insurance at such events doesnt cover individual bikes or owners possessions. Its only for public liability and to cover the club against any law suits for damages.
A couple of points on your rant.

If the person on the non Harley/Indian is with a club member then it wouldn't be a problem. The club does only have insurance for Harley/Indian bikes in the main area which is why they provide a seperate secure parking area for non-harleys. I guess it's probably more to do with cost than anything else.

Just like the Super Rally in Holland really.

Also this particular rally is our main international one and that is why it is more restrictive. Most (if not all) regional rallies are happy to let any make of bike in. At my local regions rally (New Forest) we get all sorts of different bikes. I've even been to club meets on a Jap bike and amazingly enough I didn't get stoned to death

Oh and 30 for 3 nights camping, bands, decent bar and a good time seems pretty reasonable to me. It's even less if you're a member.


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Sometimes it makes me blood boil. There's no wonder Harley owners get a bad name and its the reason we dont belong to any clubs.

A mate, who owns a Harley has asked a well known HD club, if he can attend their main Rally event in Oswestry next week, and bring his wife who rides a Kawasaki.

And guess what they said - 'NO' and the reason they gave - 'its the rules' - ya have to be on a Harley or an Indian and the other reason is that the insurance is only for Harley or Indian. Wot a crock of ****e !!! I'm sure Insurance at such events doesnt cover individual bikes or owners possessions. Its only for public liability and to cover the club against any law suits for damages.

And no, this wasnt a Hoggie event but a club who reckon to shun all that Hoggies stand for Hmm pot, kettle and black springing quickly to mind.
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A couple of points on your rant.

If the person on the non Harley/Indian is with a club member then it wouldn't be a problem. The club does only have insurance for Harley/Indian bikes in the main area which is why they provide a seperate secure parking area for non-harleys. I guess it's probably more to do with cost than anything else.

Just like the Super Rally in Holland really.

Also this particular rally is our main international one and that is why it is more restrictive. Most (if not all) regional rallies are happy to let any make of bike in. At my local regions rally (New Forest) we get all sorts of different bikes. I've even been to club meets on a Jap bike and amazingly enough I didn't get stoned to death

Oh and 30 for 3 nights camping, bands, decent bar and a good time seems pretty reasonable to me. It's even less if you're a member.


Cheers,
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Good points Rob I also go too there rallys to around the country and have been to there international for many years [Shipley days]. I like your comparison to the Super Rally which is a Harley /Indian event like all the Federation rallys in europe. Secure parking for non harleys. I get in for 20 because I am in the european Federation of Harley clubs so thanx HDRCGB for yet a hopefully another great rally 3 nighter for 20 squid. i also saw the post on there site and looks like your mate potts is gettinmg looked after and lots of questions being answered by bazza who i have met loads of times.

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A couple of points on your rant.

If the person on the non Harley/Indian is with a club member then it wouldn't be a problem. The club does only have insurance for Harley/Indian bikes in the main area which is why they provide a seperate secure parking area for non-harleys. I guess it's probably more to do with cost than anything else.

Just like the Super Rally in Holland really.

Also this particular rally is our main international one and that is why it is more restrictive. Most (if not all) regional rallies are happy to let any make of bike in. At my local regions rally (New Forest) we get all sorts of different bikes. I've even been to club meets on a Jap bike and amazingly enough I didn't get stoned to death

Oh and 30 for 3 nights camping, bands, decent bar and a good time seems pretty reasonable to me. It's even less if you're a member.


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...they provide a seperate secure parking area for non-harleys. I guess it's probably more to do with cost than anything else.

Just like the Super Rally in Holland really.
Anyone who went to the Super Rally this year will know that the Jap/Euro bike compound was far from secure and had no security on it.
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yeah well the reason I dont do clubs is cos I like to do me own thing when I want to do it and with whoever wants to do it at the time, with no time limits, no clocks or watches and nobody telling me what to do, no phones, no nagging, no pressure, - its why I ride - does that make sense

too many rules in this life as it is. I just got a letter - The neighbours are now trying the get the village council to stop us riding our bikes through the village . had a letter this morning, seriously - 'would we mind pushing them through the village high street cos they've received complaints........'

yeah right - how does feck off sound
Nah, don't organise a party - that just gives the old git more ammunition - if you REALLY want to wind him up, send him a letter stating that under the freedom of information act, you are requesting any and all correspondence relating to complaints from the public regarding the noise from motorcycles.

The parish council has a legal responsibility to surrender all this information to you.

Theres nothing like playing the bastards at their own game to get right up their noses.

Worth calling your local paper as a well...

"Bike ban threat has CherryB 'revving' mad"

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Nah, don't organise a party - that just gives the old git more ammunition - if you REALLY want to wind him up, send him a letter stating that under the freedom of information act, you are requesting any and all correspondence relating to complaints from the public regarding the noise from motorcycles.

The parish council has a legal responsibility to surrender all this information to you.

Theres nothing like playing the bastards at their own game to get right up their noses.

Worth calling your local paper as a well...

"Bike ban threat has CherryB 'revving' mad"

There more'n one way to skin a cat....
and if they're not registered under the Data Protection Act.........................
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and if they're not registered under the Data Protection Act.........................
Doesn't matter. The Data Protection Act 1998 only covers access to information held on the individual concerned. If the Parish Council doesn't hold information on individuals, then they don't have to be registered. If they do hold info on information, then they must be registered.

However, the Freedom of Information Act 2000 gives the public a general right of access to all types of recorded information held by public authorities (which includes local authorities such as the parish council, the district council, and the county council).
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Nah, don't organise a party - that just gives the old git more ammunition - if you REALLY want to wind him up, send him a letter stating that under the freedom of information act, you are requesting any and all correspondence relating to complaints from the public regarding the noise from motorcycles.

The parish council has a legal responsibility to surrender all this information to you.

Theres nothing like playing the bastards at their own game to get right up their noses.

Worth calling your local paper as a well...

"Bike ban threat has CherryB 'revving' mad"

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will deffo do that in the morning and then hand deliver to him......on me bike
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Anyone who went to the Super Rally this year will know that the Jap/Euro bike compound was far from secure and had no security on it.
hog sucks nutz

gimme a rally done by the riders or the east coast or northern lot any day


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Super Rally isn't a HOG event, it's a FH-DCE one, but I get where you're coming from.
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Anyone who went to the Super Rally this year will know that the Jap/Euro bike compound was far from secure and had no security on it.
Heh, I went and I didn't notice.

I was probably too busy and to be fair I didn't really look .

The riders club one will be secure & manned 24 hours.

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Heh, I went and I didn't notice.

I was probably too busy and to be fair I didn't really look .

The riders club one will be secure & manned 24 hours.
well it looks like i`m going to the oswestry rally this weekend as all the lads m going
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I dont do clubs either, just a personal preference. Dont matter and good luck to those who do or dont, each to their own i say.
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