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Old 15-10-2005, 08:29 AM
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mornin' all....you must have seen the disgusting pics of the animals tortured in The Sun newspaper on Thursday. I was so fcuking angry at those pics i was nearly sick! These mindless tossers should be hung! Who the fcuk could put a cat in the microwave just cos they got bit by a fcuking flea!!!!!! And how could someone leave a horse's hooves to grow that long? Stealing a puppy from a back garden then hangign it from a tree is just disgusting! Shooting a kitten with a crosbow???? Putting a cat in a sack and beating it to death!!! Tying a 10lb weight to a dog then throwing it in the river is just fcuking unbelievable!!! What made me even more angry was the fact that all the pnishment the wankers who did this got, was a life ban on owning pets and a suspended prison sentence! That ain't fcuking justice is it?
If anyone reading this knows any of these people shamed in the paper, or anyone else who commits this cowardly torture, give details of thier address so I can personaly go round there and beat the living **** out of the bastards!
I am a memeber of the animal rights group SHAC ( Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty) and we see this **** all the time. Nothing gets done coz the justice system just don't seem to want to help thses poor animals.
Even the most hardened biker can't turn a blind eye to this, can they?
I know I am so angry at the lack of justice for these poor animals.

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Old 15-10-2005, 09:06 AM
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It's sick beyond belief!!! What I find most worrying is the very bad press given to animal rights activists lately in the press and government measures to curb their and any other activity considered to be terrorist.
In my view the people who own Huntingdon Life Sciences et al deserve to be harrassed to an early grave - they are abusing innocent animals to make big money for themselves. They are not fit to walk the earth!
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I was on a pet food run with Edinburgh MAG to our local PDSA hospital a few years ago.There were a good few of us (me included) that shed some tears.
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Firstly I definitely agree with you on all of that, animal cruelty is is one of the lowest forms of cowardice! I love my animals and am dead proud knowing they become part of the family and stay with me throughout their entire lives, one of my worst days was putting my Shepard, Skylla, down due to age, I bought her at 8 weeks old and put her down almost 15 years later I still miss her.
As to animal testing? In some points it is a needed evil, Im not talking about putting soap in a rabbits eyes but some drug testing is needed before human trials. I do support some animal rights groups, but not the eco terrorist squads like PETA and their ilk.
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One of our cats was skewered to a lamp post with a crossbow bolt......and the rank family of our estate were prosecuted for cutting the ears off a kitten with scissors.

There's plenty of it going on out there, I just don't understand why.
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Scum like that deserve some of their own medicine.....
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Unfortunately we, staffie rescue, come up against cases like this all the time. The wee lass above had mange that wasn't treated after being in our care for 4 months we were able to rehome her into a beautiful family home. We had an 18 mnth old male that had 666 burnt into his forehead. One of the other dogs we had had a fractured skull and both front legs broken, done at seperate times. When we try and prosecute these b******s it costs the rescue court costs and for what, a four month jail sentence suspended for 2 years. There's only one word to descirbe how I feel about the scum that hurt animals and that is HATE. I'm not a hateful person but where this pond life is concerned I am.
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Unfortunately we, staffie rescue, come up against cases like this all the time. The wee lass above had mange that wasn't treated after being in our care for 4 months we were able to rehome her into a beautiful family home. We had an 18 mnth old male that had 666 burnt into his forehead. One of the other dogs we had had a fractured skull and both front legs broken, done at seperate times. When we try and prosecute these b******s it costs the rescue court costs and for what, a four month jail sentence suspended for 2 years. There's only one word to descirbe how I feel about the scum that hurt animals and that is HATE. I'm not a hateful person but where this pond life is concerned I am.
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I will be passing info onto my group and we aim to do something to try and change the justice for abused animals.

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I'm sure you will.


I once had the pleasure of being on one of your hit lists for the crime of looking after animals that were kept for human consumption.
You are just another bunch of terrorists, and should be hung along with Bin Laden's lot.
I hope your fire bombs blow up in your face.

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we have a dalmation so i found the picture of that poor dog even more distressing. i simply cannot comprehend how people can be so fuckin' cruel and it just make's me despair.
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agree with most comment these people should be given a taste of thier own medicine.As there is no excuse for beating animals
i also sympathise with shep just an ordinary bloke going about his buisness then getting targeted by the hypocrites, at the end of the day how many of the animal rights protesters wear leather, drink milk, eat eggs and fish. and how many take drugs that were tested on animals. i was listening to a program on the radio where they interviewed a guy who had attempted to dig up a relative of someone in the animal industry, he was making a good arguement about not testing drugs on animals but then went on to say he takes aspirin which has been tested on animals,also i believe things like insulin and penecillin were tested on animals,most animal rights protesters would use these drugs if they needed too, so for me im afraid i have no respect for em as they switch sides as soon as they get ill
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As I said before, I personally agree with testing essential medications on animals in proper labs, not as some you have seen with no movement room and horrid conditions.
I do not agree with cruelty, buying animals and being ignorant of their upkeep needs, not getting medical attention when needed, even so far as to keep an animal lingering well past its time when quality of life is zero, thats pure selfishness.
I wear leather, though do not eat meat, domestic animals raised for meat and products do not bother me, so long as they are treated right in life and slaughtered humanely. I have even been to a Korean dog ranch where they are raised for their meat and it is done the correct and humane way.
I cant stand groups that focus on farmers and ranchers, spout about not wearing leather when the animal is raised for that.
The facts are that medicines need to be tested, people eat meat, wear leather but a dog doesnt need to be ill treated, a cat doesnt need to be hung, a snake doesnt need to be burned.
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If there's one thing that really makes me very angry it's seeing or reading reports about animals being treated cruelly! Normally a 'live and let live' kind of guy I often frighten myself with the thought of what I would like to do with people like that. My particular favourites are dogs, but I love all animals.As stallholders who take their dogs (and cats) to rallies with them will know (including Smudge and Mrs. Smudge and Kenny) I always have a pack of treats in my pocket for any dogs I may meet, and love every minute of the time I get to spend with my own dog ( a border collie/lurcher cross - wickedly intelligent!) and my daughter's boyfriends dog (springer spaniel) that now lives with us as well.
Having spent the first 18 years of my working life as a lab technician working with academic researchers, however, I cannot agree with the views of people like Juke regarding use of animals in research. Whilst I agree that use of animals in any way for testing of cosmetics, domestic chemicals, etc is completely unnecessary and should not happen, when it comes to medical research i know some animal experimentation is vital. Not all treatments and medications can be tested using cell cultures or other non-animal methods. I also know that the vast majority of researchers are also concerned for the welfare of the animals they use and will only test using animals if there is no other way. IMHO the people who hound workers at places like Huntingdon Life Sciences, and steal bodies of relatives of people who farm animals for research purposes are no better than people who treat animals with cruelty, and deserve the same public disdain.
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I once had the pleasure of being on one of your hit lists for the crime of looking after animals that were kept for human consumption.
You are just another bunch of terrorists, and should be hung along with Bin Laden's lot.
I hope your fire bombs blow up in your face.

Have a nice day.


Hi shep, you have got the wrong end of our argument. We do not disagree that drugs should not be tested on animals, but we do disagree with the way it is done. I could show you film footage taken inside HLS by undercover members of our group, and they would turn your guts. We have seen pigs suffer the most undescribable cruelty when the drugs have not had the desired affect, and they are left in pain untill someone can be bothered to give them some sedative to relieve them of the pain. Yes we do know of the story of the 'digging up of the mother' and we did not agree with that, but people feel so strongly about thier beliefs they will go to any lengths to get thier point over. And yes. i do wear leather, take aspirin and eat meat, but i do not agree with letting animals suffer for no apparent reason. That is what SHAC is all about. Lessening the pain and cruelty to animals. We are in no way as bad as Bin Laden, and we do not deal in firebombs.
I would like to say however, it has been really nice to see how many of you have replied to this thread I started. Sorry if my beliefs have pissed some of you off.
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mornin' all....you must have seen the disgusting pics of the animals tortured in The Sun newspaper on Thursday. I was so fcuking angry at those pics i was nearly sick! These mindless tossers should be hung! Who the fcuk could put a cat in the microwave just cos they got bit by a fcuking flea!!!!!! And how could someone leave a horse's hooves to grow that long? Stealing a puppy from a back garden then hangign it from a tree is just disgusting! Shooting a kitten with a crosbow???? Putting a cat in a sack and beating it to death!!! Tying a 10lb weight to a dog then throwing it in the river is just fcuking unbelievable!!! What made me even more angry was the fact that all the pnishment the wankers who did this got, was a life ban on owning pets and a suspended prison sentence! That ain't fcuking justice is it?
If anyone reading this knows any of these people shamed in the paper, or anyone else who commits this cowardly torture, give details of thier address so I can personaly go round there and beat the living **** out of the bastards!
I am a memeber of the animal rights group SHAC ( Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty) and we see this **** all the time. Nothing gets done coz the justice system just don't seem to want to help thses poor animals.
Even the most hardened biker can't turn a blind eye to this, can they?
I know I am so angry at the lack of justice for these poor animals.

Opinions and relevant stories please. I will be passing info onto my group and we aim to do something to try and change the justice for abused animals.

Have a nice day all ya!

hey, i used to eat meat, and i still own a leather jacket, if i tell you where she is buried, you can go and dig up my granny,
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hey, i used to eat meat, and i still own a leather jacket, if i tell you where she is buried, you can go and dig up my granny,

your alright mate, don't wanna dig up your granny, just wanna get some justice for tossers who don't care much for the pain they cause animals. if that makes me a twat then a twat i be!!!!!
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youd be a better man than me if you dug up my gran she was cremated
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your alright mate, don't wanna dig up your granny, just wanna get some justice for tossers who don't care much for the pain they cause animals. if that makes me a twat then a twat i be!!!!!

so where exactly would you draw the line? and who are you to draw it? so, scientist "A" works in a vivisection lab, so you bump him off, does that give his widow and kids the right to rub you out in return for robbing them of a family member? have you not been cruel to them? or did they deserve it by associating with him, in which case how far down the friend of a friend line do you go? technically, you could just attack anyone, based on the premise that somewhere along the line they, or someone they were related to, or knew, or once knew, once did something cruel to an animal.
the thing about all the animal rights activists that always confuses me is who exactly are they acting for? if a human is an animal, then isnt an act of cruelty done to them as much a "crime" in their eyes as any of their activities against animals? and who decides?
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these animals in these labs have no choice in thier fate, and as i have said it's not the experiments we disagree with, it's the way the animals are left to suffer that causes us the problems. of course we need to know medicenes are safe, but do animals have to suffer such pain for the cause? I would not agree to cause any lab tech pain just for doin his job, but if i have seen him on film punch a beagle in the face just coz it is barking with pain and anger then the bastard desrves all he gets don't he? If you can't agree with that then are you one of those who don't care about causing pain to animals? I bet your not really are ya?
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these animals in these labs have no choice in thier fate, and as i have said it's not the experiments we disagree with, it's the way the animals are left to suffer that causes us the problems. of course we need to know medicenes are safe, but do animals have to suffer such pain for the cause? I would not agree to cause any lab tech pain just for doin his job, but if i have seen him on film punch a beagle in the face just coz it is barking with pain and anger then the bastard desrves all he gets don't he? If you can't agree with that then are you one of those who don't care about causing pain to animals? I bet your not really are ya?

no, but you havent answered my question, i suspect its cos you cant or darent, and another one for you, if someone from the animal extremists makes a mistake, and someone innocent is hurt or killed, would they fall on their swords, metaphorically or literally, because of their screw up, or hold their hands up.?
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