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RedRobbie
28-07-2005, 10:19 PM
Curious fact I picked up in the Astronomy course this summer. The light we see takes 8 minutes to reach us from the surface of the Sun -- but (and this is the curious part), it takes the light photons 1 million years to reach the surface of the Sun from the Sun's core after their birth in a nuclear fusion reaction.

So the light that you're seeing at THIS instant, was created when our ancestors were still moving down out of the trees.

Grav
28-07-2005, 11:16 PM
Man did not come down out of the tree's, Robbie, the trees died off to be replaced by grasslands due to the rise of the Himalayan Mountains caused by Indian joining onto Asia around 50 million years ago. This caused a major shift in the earths climate which is still ongoing today. What was once lush, tropical rainforests, slowly receded due to the ever increasing height of the mountains locking in a huge amount of water into the glaciers and created the monsoon which still deluges the Indian subcontinent every year.

Man evolved from the ground dwelling primates which were able to adapt quickly to the new conditions and those primates not able to follow suit either became extinct, or followed the recession of the rainforests and became the ancestors of modern day Gorilla's and Chimpanzee's.

Grav
clever old so and so.

saxman
28-07-2005, 11:18 PM
I aint see'in ,no light lord cos its fuckin dark here.......... :rolleyes:

STEViE
28-07-2005, 11:24 PM
Man did not come down out of the tree's, Robbie, the trees died off to be replaced by grasslands due to the rise of the Himalayan Mountains caused by Indian joining onto Asia around 50 million years ago. This caused a major shift in the earths climate which is still ongoing today. What was once lush, tropical rainforests, slowly receded due to the ever increasing height of the mountains locking in a huge amount of water into the glaciers and created the monsoon which still deluges the Indian subcontinent every year.

Man evolved from the ground dwelling primates which were able to adapt quickly to the new conditions and those primates not able to follow suit either became extinct, or followed the recession of the rainforests and became the ancestors of modern day Gorilla's and Chimpanzee's.

Grav
clever old so and so.

Well ya learn somethin' new every day .....























..... this wasn't it 'cos I learnt that yesterday


Today I have learned that I really need to get to bed 'cos I'm a tad wanI<ered :D


.... again :rolleyes:

Goodnite folks :)

Grav
28-07-2005, 11:27 PM
Turn the bloody light on then......... :D

Interestingly enough, the nearest galaxy to our own Milky Way galaxy is the Andromeda galaxy. It is 2 million light years away, which means the light you can see from it started its journey 2 million years ago. In approximately 10 billion years from now, Andromeda will be a hell of a lot closer and will fill the whole sky and its gravity will start interacting with our galaxy's gravity and the two will begin the process of merging with each other until one huge new supergalaxy is formed.

RedRobbie
29-07-2005, 04:19 PM
Man did not come down out of the tree's, Robbie, the trees died off to be replaced by grasslands due to the rise of the Himalayan Mountains caused by Indian joining onto Asia around 50 million years ago. This caused a major shift in the earths climate which is still ongoing today. What was once lush, tropical rainforests, slowly receded due to the ever increasing height of the mountains locking in a huge amount of water into the glaciers and created the monsoon which still deluges the Indian subcontinent every year.

Man evolved from the ground dwelling primates which were able to adapt quickly to the new conditions and those primates not able to follow suit either became extinct, or followed the recession of the rainforests and became the ancestors of modern day Gorilla's and Chimpanzee's.

Grav
clever old so and so.

Eloquently put, but a tad misguided. Should you take this hypothesis as fact and then map human evoloution based upon the cause and effect of continental shiftthen the obvious questions cannot be answered. When logical and scientific conclusions fail to give answers then perhaps the whole hypothesis must be flawed and academic virtue suggests we must return to basics and re-evaluate the current evidence.

Surely Grav you would not dispute this point especialy when you consider that 1000 years ago the worlds finest academics believed the world to be flat and yet our youngest school children now know them to be wrong.

Dougie
29-07-2005, 05:39 PM
EH?WHAT?The world's not flat?What'll we do?

b1k3rwaif
29-07-2005, 05:45 PM
http://bible.christiansunite.com/search.cgi?version=all&passage=Ge+1:1
1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6: And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8: And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9: And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10: And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11: And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12: And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13: And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14: And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16: And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17: And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18: And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19: And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20: And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21: And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22: And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23: And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24: And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25: And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29: And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30: And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
1: Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2: And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3: And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4: These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
5: And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6: But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7: And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

RedRobbie
29-07-2005, 06:11 PM
http://bible.christiansunite.com/search.cgi?version=all&passage=Ge+1:1
1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

7: And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Then man discoverd his motorbike and he went brumm brummm fffwwwarrrrr nnnniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bruuuummmmmm and god saw that all was good

Grav
29-07-2005, 06:19 PM
Eloquently put, but a tad misguided. Should you take this hypothesis as fact and then map human evoloution based upon the cause and effect of continental shiftthen the obvious questions cannot be answered. When logical and scientific conclusions fail to give answers then perhaps the whole hypothesis must be flawed and academic virtue suggests we must return to basics and re-evaluate the current evidence.

Surely Grav you would not dispute this point especialy when you consider that 1000 years ago the worlds finest academics believed the world to be flat and yet our youngest school children now know them to be wrong.

Not misguided at all my good man, this is the sum of current knowledge of the evolution of mankind based on many years of scientific investigations by some of todays alumni in the fields of geology, anthropology and meteorology. This hypothesis, as you rightly point out, is open to interpretation and disputation by future scientists, who may formulate a different theory or indeed advance the current one to produce a more definitive answer to where we came from.

RedRobbie
29-07-2005, 06:26 PM
Not misguided at all my good man, this is the sum of current knowledge of the evolution of mankind based on many years of scientific investigations by some of todays alumni in the fields of geology, anthropology and meteorology. This hypothesis, as you rightly point out, is open to interpretation and disputation by future scientists, who may formulate a different theory or indeed advance the current one to produce a more definitive answer to where we came from.

Utter bunkum dear boy.

Fact: The Himalayas are the cause of the monsoons. however combine that with the lesser know fact and rarely considered evidence that hedgehogs cant look up then modern alumi have been selective in their hypothesis. NAH NAH NAA NAA NERRRRRRR

Grav
29-07-2005, 06:29 PM
Utter bunkum dear boy.

Fact: The Himalayas are the cause of the monsoons. however combine that with the lesser know fact and rarely considered evidence that hedgehogs cant look up then modern alumi have been selective in their hypothesis. NAH NAH NAA NAA NERRRRRRR
So, are you saying that there is a correlation between the hedgehogs inability to look up, the Monsoon weather patterns and the evolution of Man? This could be a whole new science.......... :D

RedRobbie
29-07-2005, 06:33 PM
[QUOTE=Grav]So, are you saying that there is a correlation between the hedgehogs inability to look up, the Monsoon weather patterns and the evolution of Man? This could be a whole new science.......... :D[/QUO


Indeed and not to confuse the issue .Only worms that live south of the equator have the ability to turn left. Darwin didnt actualy discover that untill he started studying the original concept of chaos theory whilst on sabaticle on the isle of man.

Grav
29-07-2005, 06:37 PM
Ahhh, that would be around the time he discovered a certain genus of mushroom that had the royal Botanical Society sitting in their chairs counting the pink mice running round the chandelier.............

RedRobbie
29-07-2005, 06:39 PM
I should have called this thread "fuckin smart me an Grav " cos thats what we is

Dougie
29-07-2005, 06:43 PM
No,what you is,is totally barking........ :eek: :eek:

Grav
29-07-2005, 06:44 PM
Fuckin well smart we is mate.

krammer
29-07-2005, 06:46 PM
i did latin at school. (krammer, a little bit clever)

sprintbint
29-07-2005, 06:47 PM
How can you two be smart...............your both scousers :rolleyes:

Bosun
29-07-2005, 07:21 PM
How can you two be smarting


its the way they spank their biotties

critch
29-07-2005, 08:52 PM
http://bible.christiansunite.com/search.cgi?version=all&passage=Ge+1:1
1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6: And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8: And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9: And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10: And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11: And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12: And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13: And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14: And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16: And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17: And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18: And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19: And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20: And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21: And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22: And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23: And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24: And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25: And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29: And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30: And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
1: Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2: And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3: And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4: These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
5: And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6: But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7: And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
and if you beleive that old sh1te piss off back to yer xtian hovel :rolleyes:

ForestFred
29-07-2005, 10:56 PM
i did latin at school. (krammer, a little bit clever)
Cant remember fuck all though can ya :p :D

RedRobbie
30-07-2005, 10:34 AM
How can you two be smart...............your both scousers :rolleyes:

Thats right. More scousers won as a solo on BLOCKBUSTERS than any other thingy and all that. So there

So thats official then Grav and I are the cleverestest on this forum and the whole world.

ForestFred
30-07-2005, 11:07 AM
Thats right. More scousers won as a solo on BLOCKBUSTERS than any other thingy and all that. So there

So thats official then Grav and I are the cleverestest on this forum and the whole world.
Ok cleverclogs How many beans make five? :D

krammer
30-07-2005, 11:35 AM
Ok cleverclogs How many beans make five? :D eleven.....

krammer
30-07-2005, 11:38 AM
Cant remember fuck all though can ya :p :D a grasp of latin often comes in handy with my job as a council plumber. well some of the dialects in the black country sound very much like it anyway :)

bill?
30-07-2005, 11:38 AM
So thats official then Grav and I are the cleverestest on this forum and the whole world.
so as scousers you'll have nicked the cleverestestness off some poor sod :D

krammer
30-07-2005, 11:40 AM
so as scousers you'll have nicked the cleverestestness off some poor sod :D that's right, there is a cleverestness on bricks somewhere in liverpool as we 'speak' :p

RedRobbie
30-07-2005, 12:25 PM
Ok cleverclogs How many beans make five? :D

You cant disect us with such a blunt tool.

RedRobbie
30-07-2005, 12:30 PM
In our search for answers and understanding it is crucial that
we question our scientists and their beliefs. It is a fact that
most of what they believe and profess is still based on the
same concepts that we were all taught as correct in school ..
centuries-old beliefs from a much simpler time. Our scientists
are now heavily invested in our current science paradigm --
right or wrong -- and are highly unreceptive to a view that
questions and overturns their beliefs. This has left us with the
very odd situation that although many educated, science-
minded individuals have made this an ongoing
science paradigm it has yet to receive a response from the
scientific community.

Santa
30-07-2005, 01:24 PM
Ok cleverclogs How many beans make five? :D



Bean, bean and a half, bean, half bean, bean!


Thought everyone knew that :cool: !

ForestFred
30-07-2005, 01:27 PM
Bean, bean and a half, bean, half bean, bean!


Thought everyone knew that :cool: !
No you fool! Its one an another two an the tother :rolleyes: :D

critch
30-07-2005, 05:58 PM
so as scousers you'll have nicked the cleverestestness off some poor sod :D
yes but we left your meagre supply well alone ;)