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[poridge wog]

no doubt you have all heard of the yorkshire police and their new policy on bikers speeding, in todays paper the have released some of the figures for this year, i quote.
since the hardline policy was launched 190 drivers and riders have been caught 30mph over the limit, sofar 86 riders and drivers have been convicted 11 bikers and 18 car drivers have been banned, and one car driver caught doing 79 in a 40.
now this policy was meant to be against bikers yet it seems to have backfired on them because what i can see is that the majority are car drivers, it would be interesting to see the full figures ie bikers speeding against car drivers speeding.
just thought you might be interested, mind ow you go :D

[cxdemon]

Wonder how they'll twist it around so those nasty bikers come of worst of the lot? :eek:

[100%Pat]

:mad: Get-Tough Road Safety Policy Bites Even Harder

ROAD CLOSED TO EXTREME SPEEDERS

29 riders and drivers have been kicked off North Yorkshire’s roads for extreme speeding - and many more are in the legal pipeline.

Since North Yorkshire police began a hard-line enforcement policy aimed at cutting the toll of serious motorcycle accidents 190 drivers and riders have been caught smashing speed limits by more than 30mph. They are being put before courts within an average of 31 days from being caught by one of the force’s extra patrols and speed traps; some have found themselves before magistrates within ten days.

So far 86 riders and drivers have been convicted. 29 (11 of them motorcyclists) have so far been disqualified, some for four months.

One motorcyclist has been convicted of riding at 116mph, and one car driver convicted of driving at 114mph, both on the A1. A motorcyclist recorded at 134mph awaits trial for dangerous driving. A driver has been caught at 79mph in a 40mph zone.

Fines so far have ranged from £40 to £1,400, with convicted speeders also getting five or six endorsement points on their licences.

The numbers of extreme speeders caught across the county is falling, as has the number of fatal motorcycle accidents. A crash on the A59 at the weekend brought North Yorkshire’s eighth fatal rider casualty; 11 riders and a pillion passenger had died by the same time last year.

Injuries are down too.
Results are so encouraging that the fast-tracking policy has been extended, and will now operate across the county until 30 September; further high-visibility and covert police patrols are planned as part of an ongoing strategy backed by North Yorkshire County Council.

However, Assistant Chief Constable David Collins sees no reason at all to celebrate the promising results from the campaign.

He said: “Casualties are down and there is evidence that word has spread throughout the motorcycle community that North Yorkshire Police do not tolerate dangerous and anti-social riding, so I suppose I should be pleased.

“But I am not.
“The bottom line is that every single serious road accident has its own growing circle of victims. The victims are not only the people killed or badly hurt, but their partners, their children, their parents, their friends, their workmates, and many others. The circle of grief and loss expands rapidly and mercilessly from every road accident.”

Mr Collins said: “There are some great things about being a police officer, and there are some dreadful ones too. One of the very worst is knocking on someone’s door with the news that a loved one won’t be coming home that night. And our feelings are nothing compared to those of the families we have gone to visit - sometimes their whole world caves in.”

That, he said, was not an acceptable situation.
“Motorcyclists across the region know that we welcome riders to North Yorkshire, unless they are members of that tiny, irresponsible idiot minority who take risks regardless of the consequences to themselves and their families. Let me be clear: North Yorkshire Police will continue to take strong, quick and decisive action against those who ride or drive in a dangerous or anti-social manner.”

[poridge wog]

pat. thats whats in my paper today anall bit i still cant see why onlly bikers are mentioned when the majority of speeders are car drivers also how many of these accidents involved car drivers and who was at fault, i live just out of helmsley and at the wekends its hard to drive ten yards without a police patrol up yer ar$e. if youre up that way lookout for a silver honda 4x4 its an unmarked cop car.

[Gypsy]

yorkshire police think they have a problem

from the hampshire police site
"In 2003 in Hampshire and the Isle of Wight there were 97 road deaths, 1211 casualties with serious injuries, and 7707 casualties with slight injuries."

[Maggie B]

Bikers are not welcome at all in N Yorks

They are stopping bikers & checking for illegal cans, number plates, number plate lettering


anything to make you think its sh*t in N Yorks & go somewhere else to ride your bike.

This is the way N Yorks have decided to tackle the increasing death toll and accidents involving bikers


Be told

If you go, and want an uneventful day, go completely legal, or go to the back roads where the police won't be patrolling

[JOE]

All this makes me want to ride round and round all the patrol areas at 30mph (in or out of town) in a massive group just to piss them off an' congest their roads, if farmers can do it why can't bikers.

[Nitrowing]

The reason the cops 'pick' on bikers for speeding and accidents is due to percentages. Sure, more car drivers were caught speeding than bikers - but as a percentage - we are a damn bad bunch :eek:

Note: I am a habitual speeder, as my license can testify ;)

[bill?]

coming home from the Yorks MAG rally I spotted a couple of cops on unmarked bikes and not the usual gear they normally wear wasn't till one had passed me that I saw the word 'police' on the back of his jacket. the whole word couldn't have been more than 2 inches long.

sneaky gits, good job it was peeing it down otherwise I might have been going a bit quicker.

[Gypsy]

there are more and more unmarked bikes/ cars being used nowdays for sure, even seen and off-road bike being used on housing estates :D

[Doro]

we travel from M25 to Newcastle via M1 quite regularly and yorkshire is the only place you ever see police patrols, usually over 7 of them in one run. Perhaps Yorkshire doesn't have as much trouble wif burglaries etc so they have more time to spend looking for bad motorists


*takes tongue out of cheek*

but have you ever seen them stop someone for using a mobile/speeding/sitting in the middle lane/cutting in/tailgating???

nope, thought not...

[Tiger Lily]

yorkshire police think they have a problem

from the hampshire police site
"In 2003 in Hampshire and the Isle of Wight there were 97 road deaths, 1211 casualties with serious injuries, and 7707 casualties with slight injuries."

There was a bit about it all on news last night, they had some graffic pic's to go with it, one of them had a crash helmet laying on road wiv blood round it. All I could think was that my family are prob watching this, they worry enough as it is about us riding, they don't need the grusome visuals, and neither do we.

[Friar Tuck]

Didn't want to go to Yorkshire anyway!

[pale rider]

all these statistics can be read any way thay like to paint the picture thay want.does bike accident figgers include scooters theres that many of them about it will make us bikers look like we need craking down on.

[UKRobKLR650]

Well i gotta say, if you wanna break the law then expect to get done. We all know the speed limits, we all know about the size of number plates, illegal exhausts etc. I dont mind paying the price but what i do hate is people speeding in built up areas, just plain fookin stupidity.
I dunno, it seems to me that people dont wanna be responsible for their own actions nowadays.

[pale rider]

there are that many laws covering everything that sooner or later you are going to brake one and become a criminal.so my thoughts are if its going to happen even when you try realy hard not to be a criminal,then stuff it break all the laws you want,its only some one elses idea of how you should behave. and if you get caught just think you were going to get done for somthing eventualy any way... :stick two fingers up at the establishment and ride free

[Sir Ewok]

The cops round Northampton use two trailies to catch bike thieves and the growing band of mini-moto riders. The estate was built like a rabbit warren of footpaths, with tight turns and alleyways all over the place. Cops on ordinary bikes and in cars could not catch the little feckers. They have been operating on my estate recently and for weeks there has been no bikes or mini-motos razzing up and down the footpaths here. More power to them when it comes to STOLEN bikes. The cops round here have never stopped me on a bike, so perhaps they are a bit different here, or maybe I was just lucky.

Another thing wrong with reporting motorcycle incidents is when theft occurs. I have written to the local rag several times about "Biker killed/hurt on stolen motorcycle". I said they don't report 'Motorist in stolen car' but car thief, therefore the report should say 'Bike Thief' instead of biker. Just another form of brainwashing for the public....

[Sheltie]

The other night on my way home from work there were two speed traps the second on pulled out an followed me 25 miles to my home then turned round an buggered off. Normally I'm an unrepentant speeder but with only two points left I've got to take it easyHowever a friend who has aradio scanner said that the police were looking for a bike that night and as I was the only one on the road that night I think it may have been me. Not sure if this counts as harasment or not.

[hardtailbiker]

The cops round Northampton use two trailies to catch bike thieves and the growing band of mini-moto riders. The estate was built like a rabbit warren of footpaths, with tight turns and alleyways all over the place. Cops on ordinary bikes and in cars could not catch the little feckers. They have been operating on my estate recently and for weeks there has been no bikes or mini-motos razzing up and down the footpaths here. More power to them when it comes to STOLEN bikes. The cops round here have never stopped me on a bike, so perhaps they are a bit different here, or maybe I was just lucky.

Another thing wrong with reporting motorcycle incidents is when theft occurs. I have written to the local rag several times about "Biker killed/hurt on stolen motorcycle". I said they don't report 'Motorist in stolen car' but car thief, therefore the report should say 'Bike Thief' instead of biker. Just another form of brainwashing for the public....

the pigs in Northampton are wankers, surprised you've not been stopped, I couldn't go out for one day there and not get stopped, I have moved

they've obviously changed their attitude to stolen bikes as when I reported on many an occasion wrecked bikes when walking the mutt they couldn't be arsed