Voting dilemma!!!!!!!!!!

[Mrs Reject]

Helllp! Only one day left and I still don't know who to vote for except it won't be Blair that's for sure!

[Jim]

Same problem here Mrs R but I'm not sure if I'm letting my heart rule my head on this.

[BigBod]

It's a toughie....no way can I vote labour.........It's gonna have to be the Tories for me. No good voting for any of the other parties, they just aint gonna get in.

What ever people decide to vote, it is important that they do. If you don't vote then you have no right to moan after the event.

[technoboiler]

i also have no idea who to vote for,
if they actually told us in plain english what they are gonna do, then carry it through when they are elected, it may be easier to understand what they are all about,
so far all i have heard is slagging off,,,, its an insult to the british ppl to expect us to vote for liers and name callers!

i WAS gonna vote bnp, but then we would have no doctors and bus drivers left!..... ;)
joke BTW!

[Huw Beer Monster]

In the words of Neil Innes and the Bonzo Dog (Doo Dah) Band

No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in!

[hacky]

how can we believe any of the lying tossers when all they do is line there own pockets and screw with our lives more :mad:

[INDIANDRAG]

it`s right wot they say-if you don`t vote then you got no right to winge when the government screws it up :confused:

[Grav]

Have a look at the independent candidates in your area, a lot of them are putting local issues first and will use the votes they receive as leverage when lobbying the eventual winner. Just a thought.......

[Simon B]

Well Ive been sadly watching all the election guff on Tv trying to work out who to vote for, opened me paper today to see the Blairs going on about how much they love each other and not a lot else.
Then I read the Torie promise statement giving dates for when they are going to do things etc, and for the first time in my life Im going to vote for them at least they've said what they're going to do and when they're going to do it. Also I'd hate to see my taxes go up even more which has ruled out Labour n the lib dems.
But at the end of the day no matter what your going to do I think you've got to use your vote,

[colin]

For anyone who has trouble deciding who to vote for then do what I do:

1. Go to the voting booth.

2. Take the pen and hold it above the paper.

3. Close your eyes.

4. Move pen around in a circular motion above the voting slip.

5. Count to ten and then lower the pen to the voting slip.

6. Hey presto you have just voted.

7. Shout 'HURRAH' at the top of your voice!

8. Go down the pub and celebrate the fact that you have offered your opinion and voted. Well done :D :D :D

[Mrs Reject]

It may well come to that Colin :D Can I shout "Bull****" instead?

[critch]

In the words of Neil Innes and the Bonzo Dog (Doo Dah) Band

No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in!



such wisdom! and a connysewer of fine music to boot!

[Mrs Reject]

Well, I've just read all the manifestos online and made my decision - no doubt I will come to regret it but what can you do?
I can't say I will be doing any cheering if my party wins, I just hope some of their manifesto isn't lies and deceipt but it probably will be :(

[iomrob]

vote for iomrob of the perversion party . you know it makes sense :D ;)

[Simon B]

Come on then Mrs R, who's it going to be?

[Mrs Reject]

Come on then Mrs R, who's it going to be?

Shylock and the blues!

[Mooncat]

Shylock and the blues!

I couldn't - Michael Howard reminds me of Bob Monkhouse! All slimey, false, and fake tanned.

Every time I hear him speak he only slags off everyone else and I always get the impression he's lying/not telling the whole truth. Don't know why. :confused:

[Bosun]

What ever people decide to vote, it is important that they do. If you don't vote then you have no right to moan after the event.


and thats the main bit, several ladies at work wont vote, then grumble for years

dont even know whos around here better start researching

[kennp]

It's always a bit dodgy talking politics. Couldn,t decide myself at first but then realised there was only one mainstream party against the war, and the same against ID cards which I'm against.
So I'll be voting for them.

[Mrs Reject]

I'm voting Conservative purely in an attempt to get Blair out. I normally vote UKIP but the party's split in two this year so it's pointless.
I've worked in the NHS for 20 years and the whole system has been so appalling under labour and so fucked up if they win this time I'll feel like leaving the country!!!
I have found out at first hand the last few months exactly how pointless and useless - no, downright dangerous and insane all these 'targets' are but I'd better not go there or it'll become a major rant!

[colin]

I'm voting Conservative purely in an attempt to get Blair out. I normally vote UKIP but the party's split in two this year so it's pointless.
I've worked in the NHS for 20 years and the whole system has been so appalling under labour and so fucked up if they win this time I'll feel like leaving the country!!!
I have found out at first hand the last few months exactly how pointless and useless - no, downright dangerous and insane all these 'targets' are but I'd better not go there or it'll become a major rant!

Rant away :) oh by all means shout 'BULLS**T' or anything else you fancy ;)

[ForestFred]

Not that I wish to influence anyone in anyway but when it comes to voting Tory just remember what that fucking bitch Thatcher did to the miners :mad:

[Mrs Reject]

Not that I wish to influence anyone in anyway but when it comes to voting Tory just remember what that fucking bitch Thatcher did to the miners :mad:

Look just shut up! It took me weeks to make up my mind and at this rate I'll unmake it again and go back to square one :D

If there was a proper labour party that called each other Comrade I'd vote for it but not Blair.

What kind of a choice is Shylock, B'Liar and Billy Bunter - I'm feeling suicidal :(

[Grav]

What constituency are you in Mrs R?

[Grav]

I have just had a good look through the BBC's rather helpful guide to the constituencies and candidates Here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/region_8.stm) and discovered that the conservative candidate for the Lewes constituency is called Rory Love. Now that's a hell of a good P0rn star name innit. :D

[BikerGran]

Well I'm the same as Mrs R, been a socialist all me life but there's nothing socialist about Blair and his lot, so against all my instincts I'm gonna vote Tory as a vote AGAINST Blair.

Dunno if we can trust Howard but he can't be any worse than Blair can he?

[GarrysPhrogg]

I'm not going to vote :)
I can't, there is no way I can vote for people who lie, and they all lie.
You may say "women fought for you, for your right to vote" OK, What about my right not to vote, .
What about.............as it happend everytime..........."I don't know why we voted for him/her cos they haven't done what they said blah blah blah.................
Well at least I can say "well dont look at me cos i didnt vote" :)

[Blurt]

dont know why ppl knock thatcher, maggie was one of the best imo. had to get a national insurance printout of the last ten years... startilingly my wages hadn't risen but my NI had by 500%..

go figure :confused:

poll tax...badly spun...bliar would get away with it, indeed I had 2 places trying to bring me to court whislt I was inna war zone... neither were entitled to it as I had just turned of age and paid for where I lived at the time.

[Sir Ewok]

Poll tax badly spun, jeez, a tax on adulthood. You paid even if you earnt nothing. kids being booted out of home 'cos parents couldn't afford to pay more poll tax, Massive inflation with your wages being worth less every WEEK, destruction of the unions, the Falklands war that she allowed to happen and last but not least the SLEAZE.....
I was a solid Labour supporter, but like most of the rest do not recognise Tony & Co as Labour and the Lib/Dems are wank.
No raving Loony Candidate either, will probably vote Ukip becuase even if they dont win (even,HaH!) my vote will show up in the votes cast and any extra support will show the main parties how we feel....

[excalibur]

Not that I wish to influence anyone in anyway but when it comes to voting Tory just remember what that fucking bitch Thatcher did to the miners

lets be honest, that was years ago, and anyway in my opinion Scargill did as much as anyone to kill mining.

Its what the parties stand for today and what they are going to do now......not something that happened 20 years ago. I could remind all the labour voters of 3 day weeks, flying pickets and lightning strikes, powercuts, rubbish in the streets, the dead unburied, 80p in the pound income tax, sick man of europe etc etc etc.....the list goes on

I will be voting Conservative this time because they at least have said what they plan to do and when they plan to do it........all B Liar can do is rubbish the opposition and say how wonderful the economy is under Brown (which I dont believe it is)

[BigBod]

, the Falklands war that she allowed to happen ....

Maggie was great and I was proud to serve in the Falklands campaign :mad: How the fcuk did she 'allow' it to happen, the fuckin Argies invaded our terratory, she didn't ask them to. :rolleyes:

[Creature]

you forgot fuel rationing - yep that was a result of yet another labour goverment.

In fact when the Maggie got in this country was bankrupt - I like a lot of people in this country sufefred harshly under her goverment to start with - but the last 3 years were a lot better - as for the poll tax - if you look at news reels of the time you will find out that Maggies goverment isolated her from what was rewally happening and tehy were schming behind her back !!

in fact the old rates system needed a drastic shake up - she gave it - and she admitted she got it wrong - what did the party do kick her out ....

she is the only prineminister i know since churchill who when going for election and during goverment - said what she was gonna do and she did it - on the whole she was probally the most honest prime minister were ever likely gonna get !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>.

as for voting - i still cant make up me mind, dont want blair as things are starting to get very tight with all the hidden taxes and if he gets back in will have to sell car.bike,trike and probally the house

not sure about consertatives - they just dont seem to have gotten there ideas accross this time.... almost like the john major era....

liberals - no chance - i dont wanna belong to europe i want the pound and there proposed tax hikes would finnish us off....

green party - am sorely tempted here - just as a protest vote and just maybe if the voters all stick together and they sheak in or cause a hung parliment - could just be the shakeup the 2 major parties need...

UKIP - i was warming to them as i agreed with a lot of there policies - but seem to have lost there way at the moment

other idea is to make me voting slip unreadable - therefore dont support any of them - funnily enough in the last election there were more defaced voting slips that labour got to win !!!!!!!!! so makes you wonder when the polititions gonna take notice of the real voters.

ive not had any candidates knock on my dorr - maybe in past years they havent liked my message - there not readily avaialable or approachable or refuse to listen to your message.....

i just wish there was a party out there who spoke in english and gave accurate sensible & direct answers to the questions we ask - mind you if a partyu was to tell the truth - pretty certain that they wouldnt get in..

[Mitch]

Maggie was great and I was proud to serve in the Falklands campaign :mad: How the fcuk did she 'allow' it to happen, the fuckin Argies invaded our terratory, she didn't ask them to. :rolleyes:


That was a proper war that was. At least they had the decency to actually INVADE the Falklands first! Not like this feckin' excuse for a manufactured L.I.C. (low intensity conflict - same as vietnam, which wasn't a War as war wasn't ever officially declared - well pissed off my history teacher when I politely informed him of that when he put a cap 'W' in war on the blackboard :D )

[Mooncat]

Not that I wish to influence anyone in anyway but when it comes to voting Tory just remember what that fucking bitch Thatcher did to the miners :mad:

Not to mention the recession when Maggie had her claws in the country, where thousands of people's homes were being repossessed! :(

[Mitch]

The thing that gets me is that Mr B. liar keeps saying your mortgage is at risk under the tories...

What the stupid cnut (and most thickos out there) doesn't realise is that he took away the powers of any government to set mortgage rates when he made the Bank of England independent as soon as he took power (well, Gordon did anyway!).

Also, everyone that goes on about Thatcherism should surely realise by now, that Blair is the biggest Thatcherite since her ladyship! He first stood as a tory candidate back in the early nineties as a Thatcherite and couldn't get elected, so he switched sides (conspiracy theory time! *snick*) had John Smith knobbled by way of a heart attack (well he did it with David Kelly, so why not? IMHO) so he could become labour leader in time for the 97 election. Princess Di swiftly followed...(to keep the populace in a state of shock and bewilderment) - Conspiracy theory mode off *snick*

[excalibur]

I agree....the economy is to do with giving running to the bank of england, but even Brown cant accept the glory for that one....it was the last Tory government that set the wheels of that one in motion.

They signed up for stages one and two of European Monetary Union. This meant Britain had to relinquish control the Bank of England.The treaty said "During the second stage, each Member State shall, as appropriate, start the process leading to the independence of its central bank

[Mrs Reject]

I have just had a good look through the BBC's rather helpful guide to the constituencies and candidates Here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/region_8.stm) and discovered that the conservative candidate for the Lewes constituency is called Rory Love. Now that's a hell of a good P0rn star name innit.

Heehee, it certainly is :D

Well we've done the deed, I had a crisis in the cubicle and was in there ages trying to make up my mind again. I wonder how long you have to be in there before they chuck you out :D Anyway I finally voted for Tories. Me and Mitch didn't vote for the same party tho'. I can see this might be a problem if there is another recession..."It's all your fault voting for them" etc etc.

That leads to the question, "What did the Romans ever do for us" :)

[Dexxie]

We don't have an election till 2006 - no real "parties" although the Labour Party have a "kind" of following I believe.


...and, at least, cos we're small - we don't get bombarded day and night on the telly for weeks about it either!!! :)

[defarter]

Not to mention the recession when Maggie had her claws in the country, where thousands of people's homes were being repossessed! :(


And your forgetting the doom and gloom days of the labour goverment before Thatcher "sh*t fecking times then" it seems we only hear about the last Tory Goverment and none of the crap that labour goverments have dished out in the past...........

[Yoda]

From my point of view (which really is not one based on any logical reasoning)

Conservatives problem is that they havnt really activly tried to show that they have changed with the times

Labour have re-invented themselves but have not listened to anyone but themselves to create their re-invention

Lib Dems really deserve a chance to screw up the country as the other two have done, and intend to do. And in all fairness its their turn to fuck with everyones lives and livlihood

they are all a shower of bastards that are looking after their own
so my opinion is picking any one of them is just as good as picking another.

Yoda (the illogical :) )

[Mrs Reject]

According to Sky news only 59.3% of eligible voters bothered voting in 2001. I'll bet that figure's a lot lower today as apathy/general disgust has increased :eek:

[Yoda]

According to Sky news only 59.3% of eligible voters bothered voting in 2001. I'll bet that figure's a lot lower today as apathy/general disgust has increased :eek:
that wouldnt surprise me in the least

Yoda

[Grav]

That leads to the question, "What did the Romans ever do for us" :)

The Acqueduct? :D

[Dougie]

"What did the Romans ever do for us" :)
Roads? :D :D :D

[ForestFred]

According to Sky news only 59.3% of eligible voters bothered voting in 2001. I'll bet that figure's a lot lower today as apathy/general disgust has increased :eek: Yes apathy is a problem but if you dont vote dont winge about the state of the country .If you then say but theres no one I feel I can vote for then write none of the above on the ballot paper , yes it will be counted as a spoilt paper but if enough people were that miffed the poloticians might take notice.
Two ideas fer the future elections
1. £1000.00 fines to all eligible voters who dont vote
2. Use it or lose it .Dont vote this time cant vote next bit draconic I know but might make people think

[Mooncat]

And your forgetting the doom and gloom days of the labour goverment before Thatcher "sh*t fecking times then" it seems we only hear about the last Tory Goverment and none of the crap that labour goverments have dished out in the past...........

I don't remember those as I wasn't born. The first PM I knew was Maggie...

[technoboiler]

Yes apathy is a problem but if you dont vote dont winge about the state of the country .If you then say but theres no one I feel I can vote for then write none of the above on the ballot paper , yes it will be counted as a spoilt paper but if enough people were that miffed the poloticians might take notice.
Two ideas fer the future elections
1. £1000.00 fines to all eligible voters who dont vote
2. Use it or lose it .Dont vote this time cant vote next bit draconic I know but might make people think
so what u are saying is ppl should be FORCED into voting .... how very sad.

if maggie was standing for election i would certainly vote for her, even though we have been labour up north for generations!

[defarter]

I don't remember those as I wasn't born. The first PM I knew was Maggie...


Well you did'nt miss much mate :D

They was all full of crap then as they are today and who ever wins will promise you the earth take more money of you while thinking fcuk you and thank you very much for letting me fcuk with your life for the next 4/5 years :D ;)

[Mooncat]

Well you did'nt miss much mate :D

They was all full of crap then as they are today and who ever wins will promise you the earth take more money of you while thinking fcuk you and thank you very much for letting me fcuk with your life for the next 4/5 years :D ;)

Yeah, that's true. They're all as bad as eachother, all lying scumbags! Why are we fretting so much? Whoever gets into government will behave for a short time and then do what they like anyway... :(

[manky monkey]

As a Postie I've been delivering leaflets for all the major parties for weeks. Don't believe a word any of them said so I'm exercising my democratic right NOT to vote. I know it's not about individual personalities, but I can't stand Blair. Nasty, snivelly, smarmy little Sh*t. Wouldn't believe a word he said.
I may not have agreed with all Thatcher did but at least she had the guts to state clearly what she planned & then stick to it.
In the words of the great philosopher Billy Connolly:
"if you wouldn't drink with 'em, don't vote for 'em".

[ForestFred]

so what u are saying is ppl should be FORCED into voting .... how very sad.

if maggie was standing for election i would certainly vote for her, even though we have been labour up north for generations!
Question Why is it Sad? It might be same old same old but people laid down their lives in order for the likes of you and me to be able to vote .

[Mrs Reject]

AARRRRRGGGHHHHHH, ***** no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Liar got in again - let's kiss goodbye to England - I feel like emigrating :mad:

[Mrs Reject]

The f word got censored - has Pat put a stop to our swearing? :eek:

[saxman]

oh deep joy..... :mad:
5 more years of b.liar




fuck

:mad: :mad:

[Doro]

said it before

real problem is the voting system, not who gets in (cos they are all the same now)

what if you wanted to vote for the green party but there wasn't a candidate in your area?

you vote for 2nd best? or don't vote at all?

how many of Blair's votes were meant for another party but that party wasn't available?

as an experiment I'd like to see us allowed to vote for the party we want - just to get an idea of who'd get in if every vote counted

bet there'd be a shock then...

[Freak]

just remember what that fucking bitch Thatcher did to the miners :mad:

Where as Mr Blair is fcuking up the Adults :D

[Mrs Reject]

The worst thing is I've been forced to do a bit of psycho-social stuff as part of my uni course.
The university teaches the labour left wing view which is basically the gap must be closed between rich and poor to reduce poverty so anyone who has a house or anything they've worked for get it all taxed to buggery wheras the workshy and immigrants get loads of benefits.
I don't mind paying for peeople in genuine need like us students :D, disabled or whatever don't get me wrong.
All women, ethnic minorities etc get pushed to the front of the queue for jobs etc, no thanks, I'll get a job on my own merits not positive discrimination (labour women candidates for Wales being a case in point)
And last but not least disadvantaged criminals get softer treatment because of their background so the next four years means gangs of roaming feral children who can terrorise us and not get punished for it.
Working people however who are reasonably comfortable can be sent down for defending themselves - they ought to know better because they are not disadvantaged.
There is stacks of research churned out by academics to try and prove all this rubbish and it is all made into policy.
I can't face living in this country under this government any more............and, is this the last ever time we will have a British prime minister? Our next leader could well be a European president! :eek:

[Simon B]

Oh deep Joy Labour in again, still at least Cherie will still be able to rip off childs cancer charities and keep smiling.
Emigrating is looking better as each day passes.

[100%Pat]

Mrs R.... I'd reccommend Portugal, warm friendly people, loads of sunshine, and very very cheap cost of living... I've got loads of links if you want them...LOLOLOL

As to politics, as someone else said , I think it was techno actually.
If Maggie was standing I'd have voted for her. I didnt always agree with her policies or what she did or stood for. But you always knew where you were with her, if she said she was going to do something she bloody well did it. Right or wrong! She was more honest about it all than all of this lot put together.

[excalibur]

It is with great sadness, that I mourn the passing of a very good friend. Throughout the years she has been there for me, given me freedom and something to be proud of.

We have just witnessed what was probably the last general election that this country will ever see.A big sigh of relief will have gone up in Brussels, as they can now continue forward with their federalistic dream.In future we will be voting for soeone to be governer of England, Scotland, Wales etc, and by 2009 steps will be in place to elect the first president of the United States of Europe.

To those of you who fought for the freedom we have enjoyed up until today, to the relatives of those who died in two world wars may I offer my sincere appologies for the short sighted actions of my fellow citizens for yesterdays elections.

I never expected to see the end of the United Kingdom in my lifetime, or the fact that future generations will have only history books to experience it by......but I am humbled to have been born one of your servants

One last time, in a scene reminisent of Captain Von Trapp from the Sound of Music, standing up uniting his fellow Austrians in song in the face of the German takeover, can I ask you all to stand and sing

Land of hope and glory
Mother of the free
How shall we extol thee
Who art born of thee

Wider still and wider
Shall thy bounds be set
God who made thee mightier
Make thee mightier yet


Great Britain R.I.P.


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[Mrs Reject]

*Sob* :( :( :(

[Spike]

It is with great sadness, that I mourn the passing of a very good friend. Throughout the years she has been there for me, given me freedom and something to be proud of.

We have just witnessed what was probably the last general election that this country will ever see.A big sigh of relief will have gone up in Brussels, as they can now continue forward with their federalistic dream.In future we will be voting for soeone to be governer of England, Scotland, Wales etc, and by 2009 steps will be in place to elect the first president of the United States of Europe.

To those of you who fought for the freedom we have enjoyed up until today, to the relatives of those who died in two world wars may I offer my sincere appologies for the short sighted actions of my fellow citizens for yesterdays elections.

I never expected to see the end of the United Kingdom in my lifetime, or the fact that future generations will have only history books to experience it by......but I am humbled to have been born one of your servants

One last time, in a scene reminisent of Captain Von Trapp from the Sound of Music, standing up uniting his fellow Austrians in song in the face of the German takeover, can I ask you all to stand and sing

Land of hope and glory
Mother of the free
How shall we extol thee
Who art born of thee

Wider still and wider
Shall thy bounds be set
God who made thee mightier
Make thee mightier yet


Great Britain R.I.P.

Well said mate.

[BikerGran]

Amen to the above.






I'm gobsmacked at the result - even tho I thought it would happen. Everywhere for ages you hear people moaning about Blair and his 'government' and how there's no democracy any more..........

Then they turn and vote him in again!

I'vbe always said I couldn't emigrate, I love this country and I love living near my girls and grandchildren. But then I begin to wonder...... Friend of mine had to have some health treatment when she was in Spain, she had her E111 but it was easier and quicker to pay so she did - cost her less than using the NHS! Both me and Mike could do with some of that!