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whistler
30-04-2016, 10:47 AM
I haven't posted for a while, but just got new issue through the door and thought I'd post some of my opinions on the mag, for what their worth.

Over the last few months I 've not enjoyed the mag as much, and I wasn't sure why. With this new issue I think I'm starting to know what I don't enjoy as much.

Now bear in mind this is just my opinion:

To many classic / vintage type bikes. , I know it's the current fashion, but to many cafe racers, and I just find the mag a bit bland at times.

To redress some balance, the mag is informative, polished and professional.

When I look at my post, I find I'm contradicting myself, but I don't enjoy the mag as much and I've read it since issue one. What do others think.

HOS
30-04-2016, 11:36 AM
I can't speak about 100% Biker, but I have noticed that cafe racers conversions of older bikes has gone too far.
There are too many and only a small percentage are built well or very well.
I still like cafe racers, but it's a bit limited.

OLDMAX
30-04-2016, 11:40 AM
yeah know what you mean about some of the bikes featured, thought the same myself. each to there own though im just not open enough to some of the new ideas in building and customs.
still a good mag (even though I didn't get the event guide mag with mine) :D

whistler
30-04-2016, 12:30 PM
Maybe that's what I'm picking up on, that I'm just not in tune with the current styles in the custom world. Some of the bikes look either unrideable or just poorly put together. I really don't like the current trend of cafe racers or the lifestyle fashions and trends that go with it. Maybe it's to much of that I'm picking up in the mag.

BikerGran
30-04-2016, 08:36 PM
I never get to see the mag nowadays - they used to have it in my local newsagents, and it always sold - I know that cos if I didn't buy it as soon as I saw it, there would be none left when I went in again!
But new people took over and they don't have it any more...

But my five penn'orth is that a lot of these bikes are built purely for looks, and not for riding. I blame all these TV progs that make building stuff look so easy.

whistler
30-04-2016, 11:25 PM
I always liked chops, bobbers and more street based customs and my tastes have never changed since the early days of me getting into bikes and reading BSH, AWOL etc.
I can appreciate the Vic Jeffords, Choppershack bikes etc, and I know they get ridden. I used to like Odges bikes, but the ones he's building now look to classic for my tastes.
Think the mag has lost some of its character, or maybe it's me not moving with the times. Still enjoying the 2 other bike mags I get though.

Friar Tuck
01-05-2016, 05:22 AM
I've just spent ages writing a monologue and the effing machine has logged out so I've lost all the input! Fuckit! I aint writing it again!

Suffice to say that Customizing is an evolution, and now the mag has had a new editorship (for sometime now I may add) it is inevitable that the style will change, with each change of a new leadership.

whistler
01-05-2016, 09:15 AM
Could be something to that, I've enjoyed all the various styles of the mag over the years that have come with each editor, some brought a more dynamic approach than others over the years. As far as evolution goes, is it not that everything goes in cycles, it's just the current one not appealing to me I suppose.

SS2
01-05-2016, 08:45 PM
I've just spent ages writing a monologue and the effing machine has logged out so I've lost all the input! Fuckit! I aint writing it again!

Suffice to say that Customizing is an evolution, and now the mag has had a new editorship (for sometime now I may add) it is inevitable that the style will change, with each change of a new leadership.

Not sure it's owt to do with the change in editors cos the 'other one' has changed similarly. They're both just following current trends in customising/lifestyle, which is kinda their job innit. It will evolve again, just stay tuned;)

Friar Tuck
02-05-2016, 06:23 AM
Not sure it's owt to do with the change in editors cos the 'other one' has changed similarly. They're both just following current trends in customising/lifestyle, which is kinda their job innit. It will evolve again, just stay tuned;)

Exactly. Some for the better....

It's a personal choice. I'd rather stick with this fine editor than the other one. As you say they follow different trends in the customising scene. Some do it with a bit of panache, others blunder along blindly, and don't realise, the... err how can we put this delicately? what a fuck up and upset they create along the way!

At the end of the day, it's the magazine that get's the readership and both cover different aspects of the customising scene, and it all depends on the individual taste of which type of custom one prefers...

whistler
02-05-2016, 07:56 PM
Don't have a problem with either editor, enjoyed both mags with each at the helm. I just prefer the mags with less vintage looking bikes, and less cafe racers (which probably puts me in the minority). Think both editors bring their own approach. As an aside I plucked up when the mag changed editorship, an anti Nik feeling, didn't get it myself.

Blue
03-05-2016, 01:44 PM
Taken on board, Whistler. The problem is that custom magazines only reflect what's going on, they don't dictate it. As you rightly say, things go in cycles; 8-10 years it was all Harleys with massive rear ends and acres of chrome. If I had a quid for every cafe racer I see these days (and sometimes the definition of cafe racer is a bit loose), then I'd have my own tropical island and man servants by now. Even I limited that to flat twin caffs, then I'd still have a pretty big house! ;) So what will be the next big trend? I haven't a clue!

harry
03-05-2016, 03:07 PM
For me it all started with building cafe racers. Its gone full circle apart from my knackered old back which can't manage the chin on tank riding position this time round.

My only gripe is the phrase "Old School" even worse is "Old Skool" dunno why it just gets on me tits.

whistler
03-05-2016, 05:01 PM
Taken on board, Whistler. The problem is that custom magazines only reflect what's going on, they don't dictate it. As you rightly say, things go in cycles; 8-10 years it was all Harleys with massive rear ends and acres of chrome. If I had a quid for every cafe racer I see these days (and sometimes the definition of cafe racer is a bit loose), then I'd have my own tropical island and man servants by now. Even I limited that to flat twin caffs, then I'd still have a pretty big house! ;) So what will be the next big trend? I haven't a clue!
Thanks Blue, I get it that the mag reflects the current trends. I just can't stand the current cafe racer one. It'll all come good again whatever the next cycle is.
I'll still stick with the mag, as said in initial post it, the mags polished , professional and informative.

mickthecrane
03-05-2016, 07:11 PM
well people, some good criticism ive read, now my tuppence worth. i still enjoy the mag, yes there is a cafe racer trend, every where you look now. is it a bad thing? i dont think so, the mag is rolling with the times. i gotta say this though, i also bought the bsh recently, they have upped their game, i enjoyed it. gotta say though its still for the money men, 100% biker is all about new trends and wacky rides/shed builds, thats why i like it! id like to see more rat builds though!
also , if you cant get it at your newsagent , subscribe!, its cheaper!

OLDMAX
03-05-2016, 07:51 PM
How about a sister mag '100% Hipster' :D

SS2
03-05-2016, 09:02 PM
How about a sister mag '100% Hipster' :D

Like it :D

Friar Tuck
04-05-2016, 06:34 AM
Taken on board, Whistler. The problem is that custom magazines only reflect what's going on, they don't dictate it. As you rightly say, things go in cycles; 8-10 years it was all Harleys with massive rear ends and acres of chrome. If I had a quid for every cafe racer I see these days (and sometimes the definition of cafe racer is a bit loose), then I'd have my own tropical island and man servants by now. Even I limited that to flat twin caffs, then I'd still have a pretty big house! ;) So what will be the next big trend? I haven't a clue!

Bobbers and flat trackers?......may be sticking engines in penny farthings?

Friar Tuck
04-05-2016, 06:36 AM
How about a sister mag '100% Hipster' :D

WTF is a Hipster? I thought they were old 70's bell bottom jeans!.....:confused:

OLDMAX
04-05-2016, 09:24 AM
WTF is a Hipster? I thought they were old 70's bell bottom jeans!.....:confused:

Dont get out much do you ?

Sir Ewok
04-05-2016, 12:09 PM
How about a sister mag '100% Hip replacement' :D

Could try this as we are all getting older..... :p

Strider
04-05-2016, 09:00 PM
WTF is a Hipster? I thought they were old 70's bell bottom jeans!.....:confused:

So did I ........ :confused:

Friar Tuck
05-05-2016, 05:16 AM
Dont get out much do you ?

Obviously not!...

Friar Tuck
05-05-2016, 05:17 AM
Could try this as we are all getting older..... :p

now this I can relate to...although I have yet to experience this delight!..

Friar Tuck
05-05-2016, 05:18 AM
So did I ........ :confused:

Not just me then...thank goodness!:o

Grav
18-05-2016, 10:50 PM
There's far too many pigeon holes that folk seem desperate to fit themselves and their bike into these days. A lot of the current crop of Café and Brat style bikes are a load of shit and it's down to their owners getting completely the wrong end of the stick when trying to create their vision of what a Café Racer should look like. There's only a few that are worthy of being featured in any magazine, never mind ours, and to their credit the builders and owners of the featured bikes have got it spot on. However, the popular style of today will not be in such demand when the novelty wears off and people turn to the next big thing.

As for vintage and classic bikes being in the magazine I'm all for it. It reminds us of where Biking was in post war Britain, the popular mode of transport for the working class until cars became cheap enough for families to afford from the late 60's onwards. It doesn't matter if you call it nostalgia or historical interest, you have to admit there's some bloody nice old bikes out there and they are being rebuilt by young people who want to enjoy riding them. That's all that matters really. ;)

Friar Tuck
19-05-2016, 05:48 AM
Spot on Grav! You aint lost all your marbles yet!

harry
19-05-2016, 07:22 AM
I agree with Grav (except about Rugby) Me and the Lovley Lois used to work as stewards at the SouthWest Custom and Classic show at Shepton Mallet.
I loved the combination of old and new, and I like to have the old stuff in the magazine.

HOS
19-05-2016, 08:51 AM
I like classic bikes a lot.
Slightly modified to bring them up to date in a tasteful way.
Some of the 1970s / early 80's big Jap 4's are not low on power even by todays standards.
The classic bikes also benefit from very cheap comprehensive insurance on a classic bike policy.

I see some of the cafe racer conversions sturggling to sell pitched at low prices when if they restored them to original they would be worth two ro three times more.

Sir Ewok
19-05-2016, 12:07 PM
I like classic bikes a lot.
Slightly modified to bring them up to date in a tasteful way.
Some of the 1970s / early 80's big Jap 4's are not low on power even by todays standards.
The classic bikes also benefit from very cheap comprehensive insurance on a classic bike policy.

I see some of the cafe racer conversions sturggling to sell pitched at low prices when if they restored them to original they would be worth two ro three times more.

But would also cost a lot more to do a proper restoration, sweaty and old, I might be, but some bikes are better left of in 'original' condition that tarting them up.

Friar Tuck
20-05-2016, 05:55 AM
But would also cost a lot more to do a proper restoration, sweaty and old, I might be, but some bikes are better left of in 'original' condition that tarting them up.

A bit like you then... a sweaty, old tart in dubious original condition *runs*

HOS
20-05-2016, 07:01 AM
I think all the bike mags need a bit of passion injecting into them.
Like when the Mad Count was with SF mag.
Fast Bikes doing 200mph rampages across Europe.
Its all gone too PC smashing nicey.
Needs adrenalin and some anti authority badly.
Where's the defribulator?.........

Thats my take.

Sir Ewok
20-05-2016, 11:52 AM
A bit like you then... a sweaty, old tart in dubious original condition *runs*

Handbags at dawn, Biatch!......:p

Friar Tuck
21-05-2016, 06:36 AM
OOooh! Get you!

Creature
03-06-2016, 11:58 AM
100% biker was always about our lifestyle and for years we supported the editor, by making sure we gave them loads of material, and we left them alone. Ive always had the utmost respect for any editor on the bike seen wether I have personally liked or loathed them

these days I suspect that the input from us the readers has dwindled from those heady days ( that made the magazine into what weall wanted) down to poor ol Blue sat at her desk, struggling to try n keep the magazine where it should be. Instead of here sifting thru our rally reports, bike builds, bits abou our lives ect and then just having to get the right balance.

A very thankless task - and I suspect a very frustrating one for Blue at times.

Its a real shame as we can now email, send stories b FB and a multitude of other ways that we could help :) :)

If you want it changing or want to change the content then write something and send it in :) :) you never know it might get published :) :)

Grav
04-06-2016, 12:08 AM
Within the last two decades we have seen social media explode from it's humble origins on news groups through the days of Forums through to the domination of facebook and others such as Instagram and what's ap etc. The Digital Revolution has given us so many ways to communicate both personally and communally that its been hard for many to keep pace with the rapid advance of technology. Where it will take us in the next 5 years is anybody's guess.

Friar Tuck
04-06-2016, 04:41 AM
Star Trek's Holodeck is almost upon us. We are near to perfecting computer Virtual Reality programmes as it is. Unfortunately , I believe the written word as such will eventually fade into obscurity, as well as the English language as we know it. "Text Speak" is already creeping into the dictionary. Yes it is bloody hard for magazines to keep up with the modern form of media. We want things and we want it now! God knows what the future brings....

Sir Ewok
04-06-2016, 12:08 PM
Star Trek's Holodeck is almost upon us. We are near to perfecting computer Virtual Reality programmes as it is. Unfortunately , I believe the written word as such will eventually fade into obscurity, as well as the English language as we know it. "Text Speak" is already creeping into the dictionary. Yes it is bloody hard for magazines to keep up with the modern form of media. We want things and we want it now! God knows what the future brings....

But you won't be able to take out the centre folds of your favourite bike/pop/porn mag and pin them on the walls like you used too and the photos are copyrighted so you wont be able to put them on one of those photo viewer thingies. Ah! The good old days.....:(

Friar Tuck
05-06-2016, 07:03 AM
Ooh I dunno, you could always try nailing your Tablet/Android/Smart phone thingy to the wall.....

Sir Ewok
05-06-2016, 12:09 PM
You would have to buy a pack of iNails from apple at £600 a go. I think they stole their marketing strategy from Ewokandtuck.com

HOS
05-06-2016, 05:53 PM
Star Trek's Holodeck is almost upon us. We are near to perfecting computer Virtual Reality programmes as it is. Unfortunately , I believe the written word as such will eventually fade into obscurity, as well as the English language as we know it. "Text Speak" is already creeping into the dictionary. Yes it is bloody hard for magazines to keep up with the modern form of media. We want things and we want it now! God knows what the future brings....


You've been watching Elon Musk talking about realities?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/were-probably-living-in-a-giant-computer-simulation-says-musk_uk_575033e0e4b040e3e8192344

Friar Tuck
06-06-2016, 05:29 AM
You would have to buy a pack of iNails from apple at £600 a go. I think they stole their marketing strategy from Ewokandtuck.com

Better send the boys around then....

Friar Tuck
06-06-2016, 05:38 AM
You've been watching Elon Musk talking about realities?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/were-probably-living-in-a-giant-computer-simulation-says-musk_uk_575033e0e4b040e3e8192344

I have always believed that we (being our current universe as we know it) are in fact just one big atom/molecule in some other rather large alien? Just because, we as an advanced human life form (as current evolution allows) can only study an atom as being the smallest item that we can know it (as technology advances, who knows somebody may find a way of magnifying an atom further, without blowing humankind up first!

So working on that basis, why not upsize the universe as just one big molecular structure within something else?

I think I need to lay down!...

Sir Ewok
06-06-2016, 10:10 AM
I have always believed that we (being our current universe as we know it) are in fact just one big atom/molecule in some other rather large alien? Just because, we as an advanced human life form (as current evolution allows) can only study an atom as being the smallest item that we can know it (as technology advances, who knows somebody may find a way of magnifying an atom further, without blowing humankind up first!

So working on that basis, why not upsize the universe as just one big molecular structure within something else?

I think I need to lay down!...

And perhaps we are the cancer in that larger organism......

Friar Tuck
07-06-2016, 06:43 AM
The way we are treating this planet, I wouldn't be surprised. This world will end up like one big Malteser without the chocolate coating!

Grav
08-06-2016, 07:07 PM
Someone's been watching Men In Black....

HOS
08-06-2016, 07:47 PM
The kiss of death for some bike mags is when the media giants take them over.
Most media is owned by the same 6 global groups.
Running a mag about custom bikes and messin around on bikes is never going to make money if the office is in Canary Wharf at £5gazillion pounds per square foot office rental ffs.
You don't need to be a bleedin economist to work it out.

whistler
10-06-2016, 10:54 PM
100% biker was always about our lifestyle and for years we supported the editor, by making sure we gave them loads of material, and we left them alone. Ive always had the utmost respect for any editor on the bike seen wether I have personally liked or loathed them

these days I suspect that the input from us the readers has dwindled from those heady days ( that made the magazine into what weall wanted) down to poor ol Blue sat at her desk, struggling to try n keep the magazine where it should be. Instead of here sifting thru our rally reports, bike builds, bits abou our lives ect and then just having to get the right balance.

A very thankless task - and I suspect a very frustrating one for Blue at times.

Its a real shame as we can now email, send stories b FB and a multitude of other ways that we could help :) :)

If you want it changing or want to change the content then write something and send it in :) :) you never know it might get published :) :)

Fair comment Creature. There did used to be so much more varied contributions in custom bike mags, and it must be a thankless task putting the mags together with out them at times. I'm a shit photographer but I think I'm going to give that a go at the next HD rally I'm going to, it's worth a shot.

Creature
11-06-2016, 05:11 AM
go on give it a try - you will enjoy it - pics need to be max resolution of your camera (sorry cant remember what min specs are) and 100 - 250 words ( but sure reqular contributer or Blue can confirm what they need :) :)

whistler
11-06-2016, 09:16 AM
go on give it a try - you will enjoy it - pics need to be max resolution of your camera (sorry cant remember what min specs are) and 100 - 250 words ( but sure reqular contributer or Blue can confirm what they need :) :)

The missus and I are going to Wake the Lakes in July as good as any a point to start at. It's a half decent camera in the hands of an idiot, but with a bit of practice , who knows. Cheers for the advice.