Faro 2006

[Yoda]

On the subject of Faro
After much discussion (well 2 mins) a plan has been formed
we was considering renting a largish villa (if we can find one) for next years Faro run
We would all be riding down together and then riding back up through france (if that agreeable with everyone)
views/opinions etc wanted
as well as a list of names of those who want to come
obviously we would have to book early for the villa (or whatever we can find) so deposits would be needed
and the villa could be used as a base for those want to go to the rally and those who wanted to tour instead (cars welcome) and would be a bonus if one or two cars did come
so anyone up for it
and i dont mean to rush people but could they put a definatly or a maybe so we know exact starting figures (something to base prices on)


UPDATE
the route back up through spain and france is 1303miles so i reckon this would be a five to 6 day ride back so it is worth considering whether this can fit in with the timescale as well...so ideas on this would be welcome or would people prefer to go back the same way they came
which would be Plymouth to Santander then a 750 mile ride to Faro which i am reliably informed (thanks freak) take 3-4 days due to the heat
so opinions and idea's welocme

Yoda - Definatly
Mark (yodas mate, not that they would own up to it in public) - Definatly
Spike - Maybe
Taxi Dave - Definatly
Gary + lynne 99.999999999% Definatly
Gypsy & Doro - Definatly (although Gypsy is yet to have a say in the matter - or not :) )
Wallace - Definatly
Krammer & Yvonne
Dracken






Yoda

[Spike]

Put me down as a "maybe" :o

[TaxiDave]

Definite for me. A mate might come as well, but not the wife because of kid and animal commitments at home. How soon do they let the 2006 dates out?

[TaxiDave]

You've probably already seen this Yoda. http://www.holiday-rentals.co.uk/index.cfm/ava/3806/property/1491.cfm

[GarrysPhrogg]

Garry (seedless) & Lynne (Garrysphrogg) as 99.999999999 probability.
Cos we really want to do Faro, and this is a fantastic way of doing it.

[Yoda]

see update in top post

Yoda

[Doro]

yeah put us down


if I say that now then we can't back out ha ha

also want to do the Island invasion next year



so all the far travelling ones for 2006 methinks :)

like 'the long way round' broken up into bits lol

[Gypsy]

yeah put us down


if I say that now then we can't back out ha ha

also want to do the Island invasion next year



so all the far travelling ones for 2006 methinks :)

like 'the long way round' broken up into bits lol


:eek: :eek: :eek:

[100%Pat]

The inside story is that Me n Rik may well have already left and moved to live in central Portugal by then so may well be able to provide overnight/few days camping space....
Shhhhhh dont tell anyone.... :p

[Yoda]

The inside story is that Me n Rik may well have already left and moved to live in central Portugal by then so may well be able to provide overnight/few days camping space....
Shhhhhh dont tell anyone.... :p

you cant go and live in portugal...think of all the travelling to where the 'real' rallies are held

and think....100 por cento Biker... doesnt sound right

Yoda

[Mark]

you cant go and live in portugal...think of all the travelling to where the 'real' rallies are held

What America?

[Yoda]

What America?

OI Mark....NOOOOOOO...just because you trailer your trike everywhere..... :)
never seen him ride it yet

[100%Pat]

The fact is Yoda as soon as I can offload youngest son, Rik n me are off.... dont worry we'll have plenty of space, land is cheap there, we'll do biker camping and a bunkhouse as well...
We are looking at starting the proccess this time next year if all goes well. :D
I'll have given almost 7 years of my life to this mag by then.... its enough. :D

[dracken1]

my neighbours emigrated there last year.(not because of me either)

i'm thinking about it yoda at the moment. ;)

[TaxiDave]

my neighbours emigrated there last year.(not because of me either)

i'm thinking about it yoda at the moment. ;)


Don't worry Yoda, it'll be my turn to start annoying him soon. :D

[Yoda]

The fact is Yoda as soon as I can offload youngest son, Rik n me are off.... dont worry we'll have plenty of space, land is cheap there, we'll do biker camping and a bunkhouse as well...
We are looking at starting the proccess this time next year if all goes well. :D
I'll have given almost 7 years of my life to this mag by then.... its enough. :D

100% Yoda now that has a ring too it :)

[WALLACE]

Definite for me. A mate might come as well, but not the wife because of kid and animal commitments at home. How soon do they let the 2006 dates out?
Its always the 2nd wk end in july15th to 18th or there aboot.

[WALLACE]

yeah put us down


if I say that now then we can't back out ha ha

also want to do the Island invasion next year



was only 80 tkts left last wk when sent fir mine.

[GarrysPhrogg]

The inside story is that Me n Rik may well have already left and moved to live in central Portugal by then so may well be able to provide overnight/few days camping space....
Shhhhhh dont tell anyone.... :p

Well thats it, we all gotta go just for one of Riks breakfasts :D

[kennptwo]

The fact is Yoda as soon as I can offload youngest son, Rik n me are off.... dont worry we'll have plenty of space, land is cheap there, we'll do biker camping and a bunkhouse as well...
We are looking at starting the proccess this time next year if all goes well. :D
I'll have given almost 7 years of my life to this mag by then.... its enough. :D
All power to you.I really hope it works out well for you Pat - and be sure to let us all know where you are.

[krammer]

like i said at our little soi'ree saturday night mate, me and yvonne definate :cool:

[Jay]

A maybe...will take some arranging with kids and work though!

[Yoda]

some guidline for riding through portugal
http://www.motoclubefaro.pt/HomeUK/Usefull_info/usefull_info.html

[Peirre]

whats needed is a copy of the site map like the 1 HERE (http://www.motoclubefaro.pt/HomeUK/homeuk.html) this would make it clearer for peeps who ain`t been before to know where everything is and where to be able to meet peeps.
its nice to see the english version of the MCF web site is up to date, as its usually late june before its sorted.

[Yoda]

dont suppose you know the dates of the 2006 rally?

[Peirre]

dont suppose you know the dates of the 2006 rally?
Unfortunately no, but the MCF website is usually the best souce of info, even if they only manage to put the portugese version up,
If I did know the dates I`d be booking my tickets the day after the 2005 rally,
how do you think I got flight tickets in the previous years for under £20 each way, book early, very, very, very, very early

[Yoda]

Ok i have had some villa info come through
and am waiting to confirm the rally dates
BUT
villas very close to the site seem to be impossible to find
i would like comments on the following idea
a villa within 30-40 minute ride to faro so we can tour and visit other places as well
i have a few more details of villas coming through
and will post details as soon as i get them
they are rentable from the thursday to thursday so would fit in fine for the rally

also on the way back if a few people were up for it a ride back up through france would be nice and for those wanting to travel back freom santander we could all ride up to there and carry on up through france (this would add another week on though)

[dracken1]

lolololol
where have you got the idea that, a bmw k1200 doorstop will do 1300 miles. take a stack of wheel chair batteries and a tow strap :D

oh and the missus and i are now a definite ;)

[Yoda]

so the list is as follows
is everyone on the list still up for it ??
Yoda - Definatly
Taxi Dave - Definatly
Gary + lynne 99.999999999% Definatly
Gypsy & Doro - Definatly (although Gypsy is yet to have a say in the matter - or not )
Wallace - Definatly
Krammer & Yvonne
Dracken + missus

that makes
11
i figure 14 should be enough or we could run into villa capacity problems

so who else wants to go

rough guide price
is Villa £2200 (£160pp based on 14people)
Ferry + bike or trike £150 each way
then it is petrol and camping or B+B etc.. food and whatever else needs spending on
we may be able to get a better deal on the ferry if we book as a group

[Doro]

sticky'd for a while

[Blue]

Ferry + bike or trike £150 each way



Don't forget that - as we know by experience - the ferry companies will charge trikes the same price as cars...

[BikerGran]

I'd likle to say I'd be up for it cos I wanted to do it this year, but think I'll have to do the camping thing cos of finances, also not making definite plans till I know how the leg goes!

[Yoda]

NEED SOME HELP HERE FOLKS
Having phone brittany ferries it seems that prices do not come out untill september, and they seem to pick a price out of their head as a guide price and are a complete bunch of unhelpful tossers,
anyone know anyway of getting a price from the knobheads, or a guide price at least.
without a guide price i cannot even figure out if this is a viable trip or not. the person i just spoke to said it was about £700-£800 for one person and a motorcycle?..so its anybodies guess, and then there is the vagueness of whether a trike is classed as a car GRRRRRRRR

these are the dates
Faro Rally from 10am Thursday 20th July 2006 to 2pm Sunday 23rd July 2006

plymouth to santander Depart 1600hrs Sunday 16 July 2005

santender to plymouth depart 1400hrs monday 31st july Arrive portsmouth tuesday 1st Aug 0830hrs

[Fall3nAng3l]

Someone was telling us about this at Frenchie's at the weekend! Cannae remember who it was mind you, but it does sound fun!

Being a noob, am I allowed to put me and my better half's name down as a maybe?

As for your ferry troubles Yoda, we were planning IOMTT this year and tried to book early on and we had the same hassle then - gawd knows how they get away with that one!!! :confused:

[Fall3nAng3l]

if I say that now then we can't back out ha ha

also want to do the Island invasion next year

That was our first ever rally last year and it was absolutely fandabydosey!! :D

[Yoda]

Someone was telling us about this at Frenchie's at the weekend! Cannae remember who it was mind you, but it does sound fun!

Being a noob, am I allowed to put me and my better half's name down as a maybe?

As for your ferry troubles Yoda, we were planning IOMTT this year and tried to book early on and we had the same hassle then - gawd knows how they get away with that one!!! :confused:
at the moment i think the numbers are full...BUT depending on whether we can get a realistic price, (especially for trikes) and once we sort out a ferry price we can sort out the villa, but its seems a pain in the arse at the moment
there is a possibility of getting two villas if the numbers are right

Yoda

[Doro]

yoda - don't forget you can take pixie n phil off the list - cos they split up remember?

sad though :(

[Yoda]

once i get a final price i will do a roll call again just so everyone is sure
i have phoned P+O
and there prices are
portmouth to bilbao (which would extend the holiday by 1 day as it sails on a monday and not a sunday)

there prices for sept this year are
bike and 1 rider 320 return
trike and 1 rider 360 return

these are a guide and will be dearer in july but again until the end of sept i wont know

when i do the final roll call is when i need people to commit, until then people have time to be sure they want to go

[Fall3nAng3l]

at the moment i think the numbers are full...BUT depending on whether we can get a realistic price, (especially for trikes) and once we sort out a ferry price we can sort out the villa, but its seems a pain in the arse at the moment
there is a possibility of getting two villas if the numbers are right

Yoda

Fine then - stick! :( ;)

[Yoda]

Fine then - stick! :( ;)
i will know for definate in september, and non-refundable deposits will be needed then as well, so you must be commited to go, and as Doro pointed out pixie n phil aint going so there is extra space.

didnt mean to sound blunt, the ferry companies really pissed me off


a rough costing guide will be £400 - £500 Per person for ferry (but if going as a pillion it comes down a fair bit)
Villa is going to cost about £250per person depending on number, and this can only really come down

then its petrol, food,living traveling expenses

Yoda

[Doro]

then its petrol, food,living traveling expenses


sore arses :D

[Yoda]

sore arses :D
bring plenty of germolene :)

[Sheltie]

If you have space yoda put me down for a possible, If not there's always 2007

[Peirre]

a rough costing guide will be £400 - £500 Per person for ferry (but if going as a pillion it comes down a fair bit)
Villa is going to cost about £250per person depending on number, and this can only really come down

then its petrol, food,living traveling expenses

Yoda
in other words circa £2K pp

[Yoda]

not quite that bad

now this is a rough guide
2 people on 1 trike is not much more than one person on 1 trike (same with a bike) so couples who are going pillion are going to save a lot more,
the villa rate depends on people and that is based on 10 people sharing a 14 -16 person villa

not sure what fuel costs are like, over there but it is 750 miles each way for arguments sake use 25mpg (based on uk prices is £200)

then its food and drink

camping (or travellodges or similarfor those that want)on way down and back so those costs should be minimal

i am guessing at about£1200 - £1400 per single person
and £1900 - £2000 for a couple, maybe but until the damn ferry companies decide to get their arse into gear, i dont really know

Yoda

[purplerabbit]

cant do that far too pricey

but i am flying out for the weekend so i will definitely see you all there


Samx

[100%Pat]

Yoda
Petrol is just under half the price it is over here. Food is extremely cheap too. Rik n me ate a three course meal plus a bottle of wine and coffee after for 15 Euros the both!!
If you give me some idea of where/what route you'll take in Portugal I'll look up camping sites etc. The other alternative and nice and cheap too is to stay in Youth Hostels which is what we do when we are there, they are all over Portugal and very very cheap, (plus the ones we have stayed in all have had disabled facilities too) we again are staying in one when we go again in Sept, double room, on suite bathroom, 15Euros a night !! And thats per room not per person!! They have them on the beach , in all the big cities... almost everywhere in fact , just pay £22 joint membership here that covers you internationally as well...

[Shaun the Fatman]

May I recommend a very useful site our lot (Perverts in Leather) used to plan our trip down...well, I flew but the others hard-cored it all the way down..
Biker Steve who runs it is a good guy and one of the Moto Club De Faro helpers during the rally.

http://groups.msn.com/MotoClubeFaroRally

The published date for the 2006 rally is (and I quote)
"The Next 25th International Rally & 15th Motorbike Show will be held from 10am Thursday 20th July 2006 to 2pm Sunday 23rd July 2006"

HIGHLY recommend Faro for those who aint been yet, especially next year as it's their 25th. I'm wearing my Faro t-shirt (FREE! with the ticket) as I type .. remarkable as It's only an XL and I aint overflowing it.

We're talking about the villa idea in the club as well, cos it's too hot to sleep in the day and it don't get going until well late in the evening.

[Yoda]

We're talking about the villa idea in the club as well, cos it's too hot to sleep in the day and it don't get going until well late in the evening.[/FONT][/QUOTE]
Thanks pat

Pat the route as yet is not planned but will involve a stopover at yours if you are in by then :) :)
the youth hostels sound perfect, cheap and cheerfull, excellent, do you have a list of the hostels, and do you need to pre-book them

Shaun
I am a member of that group since a couple of weeks ago :)
villa's depending on the number of people are about £170 - £250 pp and 8 to 10 person villas seem to be easier to find than larger capacity ones, and if there are more people than that there are a few with 2 x 10person villas very close together

[100%Pat]

Yoda I'll email you over the web link for the youth hostels, they have rooms of all sizes, you 'special people' :D can have double rooms with facilities while the other who dont need so much pampering.... can get rooms that sleep 6-8 or even 10 at 5 euros a head in most places....

If im not in Portugal by then I'll shoot myself....

[Torque]

Yoda,

You can count me in if you have space for one. Am a veggie (i.e. no meat, no seafood but yes to diary products and eggs), would that be a problem as far as food is concerned in Portual or should I stick afew cans of veggie stuff in my saddlebag?

- Chetan

[100%Pat]

Hmmm I'm not sure on what its like down the Algarve but it may be a bit of a prob further up, from what I've seen they are great meat/fish eaters, so I'd take a few cans mate. There is lots of nice goats cheese though .... :D

[Yoda]

no probs mate
will have definate prices at the end of the month

Yoda

[Shaun the Fatman]

If anyone fancies the scenic route, me, Koala, Rob and Wij (at least... others are probable) from the Perverts in Leather are doing the Dover route, making a 2 week holiday of it. They all did it this year and know the tricks and routes, and from all accounts had as much fun en route as at the rally. I flew this year, which was logical and cheaper but you only live once and I'm kicking myself for missing the trip.

I'd rather spend the money the Bilbao ferry route would cost on petrol and continental cooking/wine/women. Koala's bike is a GT550 so we ain't looking to do a Gumball Rally across Europe.

We're looking at 4 days there, 4 days at the rally and about the same back to Dover. Staying the Sunday at a Dover B&B, Day one takes about 400 miles to west cost of France, Day two about a 100 miles over the Pyranees (don't sound much distance but it's twistey-turney), day three as far as Madrid (avoiding the city itself) and last day make the rest of the journay to Faro. (Day 5-8 Get drunk, laid and tanned.)

Hopefully taking a leisurely pace will give us time to do some touristy bits in France and Spain as well as Portugal, and riding in a (very) loose group will give some backup in case of FUBARS. Although in our club we are notoriously all individuals ("I'm not!!") it's good to have someone to watch yer back & gear and share the experience.

Hope that gives some ideas, let me know nearer the time if anyone wants to hook up. More the merrier.

[Torque]

Thanks Yoda and Pat.

Will get afew veggie cans from Cash and Carry and am sure I can survive with chips and pizzas if any :D

Just out of interest, what kind of bikes do you all ride?? I used to be a speed freak (180mph on a Suzuki Hayabusa) but now cooled down completely and ride a Yamaha XVS1100A Dragstar Classic. The most I can do with this bike is about 100mph, is that good enough for this journey or do you guys/gals open up abit more than that?

[Yoda]

Ferry Prices for Faro 2006

P+O portsmouth - bilbao
depart portsmouth Saturday 15th 2045hrs
depart bilbao Tuesday 1st August (or Sat 29th July) 1315hrs
villas available thurs to thurs

motorcycle +2 = 420 inc cabin return
trike +2= 640 two passenger
trike + trailer = 100



Brittany ferries Plymouth - Santander
depart Plymouth Sunday 16th July 1600hrs
depart Santander Monday 31st July 1630hrs
villas available thurs to thurs

motorcycle +2 = 395 reclining seat not cabin
trike +2= 700 reclining seat not cabin
trike + trailer = 61

http://www.ferrysavers.com
say they can do it cheaper than going through the ferry companies direct and we can save some on this,

what do people think?

are these prices good bad, any other suggestions
Yoda

[100%Pat]

I read somewhere that if you declare your trike to be motorcyle & sidecar (eg 3 wheeler) its charged as bike..... much cheaper!
That sounds horrendously expensive... but then Im a cheapskate... :confused:

[100%Pat]

maybe Blue could shed some light, the BSH trip goes every year she'll know if thats cheap or not? :rolleyes:

[Mitch]

If you have space yoda put me down for a possible, If not there's always 2007
Me and Mrs R are looking for 2007 - then Mrs R'll have qualified for a year and we'd have some money again! :D

[Peirre]

Its reminded me that its time to book my ticket for 2006, so a little research has found that travel dates have been released by the travel companies.
So now I has got me a ticket booking confirmed (tues - sun)

Yup............................I`m going to Faro 2006 deffo. :D :D

though it seems the travel Companies are wise to the event as ticket prices are up approx 30% and no doubt will be going up some more :(
so some of you would be advised to spend a little time searching for cheap tickets NOW
this is the most I`ve ever paid for a ticket, but I`ve got mine

[Yoda]

i will get onto it today

Yoda

[Peirre]

jet2.com outa manchester, leaving tuesday 14:45, arriving Faro 17:55 returning sun at 18:55, arriving manchester 21:40 so I`ll be home in bed sunday night by midnight.
sorry folks I coudn`t share this info with you all till I`d got mine confirmed

[Alice]

Cheers POB. Just booked ours out of Leeds on Wednesday, back on the Sunday :o :o :o

About the same as we paid with Easyjet last year out of East Mids with crappy flight times!!!

[Shaun the Fatman]

Ferry Prices for Faro 2006
.......
Brittany ferries Plymouth - Santander
depart Plymouth Sunday 16th July 1600hrs
depart Santander Monday 31st July 1630hrs
villas available thurs to thurs

motorcycle +2 = 395 reclining seat not cabin
trike +2= 700 reclining seat not cabin
trike + trailer = 61...

YodaOur Club being Our Club, some are flying, some are going through Dover but it makes sense to me to go through Santander...

So I contacted Brittanny Ferries by email and a very helpful young lady there says the Return fare is £289 PER BIKE... regardless of whether it is Rider only or Rider + Pillion, which aren't charged for. Still have to pay for accommodation so add another £20 return for a reclining seat each. 4 person cabin is another £119 per leg (£239 altogether) which works out at £59-50 per person for the to-and-from trip... not bad for 2 nights accomodation. Further 10% discount if you arrange a 10+ bike group booking.

[blackhack]

almost three hundred quid for a bike, not including the fuel/camping/food etc.....Is it any wonder that more and more of us are resorting to the frequent flier club...??

I've just booked a direct flight from glasgow for £160.00 .....Me and my trike/bike just cant compete with these kind of prices.


see you all at the bar....:)

[mr.chaz]

Not read the whole thread , so forgive if it's already mentioned here:

I used Ferrysavers.com
If you click around the site , you'll find a landline number you can talk to one of those human being thingies.

Got £40 return from Dover -Calais , 14 day excursion.
Taking into account , camp site fees , fuel , beer , food , beer , Faro entrance , beer , it cost me a total of £575 all in. And I came back via all the expensive toll roads , so you could knock 100 Euros off that still. But.. I didn't buy anything more than food , beer and petrol - just the neccesities.

I think it was a "cheap do" and seen the sights that you certainly couldn't do from the comfort of an airplane recliner.

[Shaun the Fatman]

Our Club being Our Club, some are flying, some are going through Dover but it makes sense to me to go through Santander...

So I contacted Brittanny Ferries by email and a very helpful young lady there says the Return fare is £289 PER BIKE... regardless of whether it is Rider only or Rider + Pillion, which aren't charged for. Still have to pay for accommodation so add another £20 return for a reclining seat each. 4 person cabin is another £119 per leg (£239 altogether) which works out at £59-50 per person for the to-and-from trip... not bad for 2 nights accomodation. Further 10% discount if you arrange a 10+ bike group booking.
Looks like the PIL Tour to Faro is in a Go Situation, Houston... currently got 9 signed up people myself included, with possiblity of more. If we get 10+ bikes going, it's knocking 10% off the £289 return fare for each bike, so down to about £260 each plus £20 for the recliners there and back. Cheap booze cruise Hee hee.

[griff2000]

Last year I got an info pack from P&O. They were doing a round trip deal, E.G. Portsmouth to Bilbao out and Cherbourg to Portsmouth return, no time limit. Cant remember the price but was cheaper than standard!!!!

And where do you get 3/4 days travel to Faro from Bilbao? Last year went from Bedfordshire to Calais to Almeria in S.E. spain in 3 days, two up with luggage, inc ferry time. Yeah it was unbelievably hot but 10 mins in a shower at the end of the day and all forgotten.
One thing to bear in mind........fuel costs. My VN does 120 to the tank but the further south you go the less it does due to the heat. One stretch at 85mph got me all of 55 miles.............
Total cost for two weeks, two people, inc ferry, ride all the way and back, staying in motorway hotels, (50 euros for two) or truckers hostals (very cheap @ 18Euros a night) using toll roads and partying/ sightseeing constantly cost £1400. I.E. £700 each. Bargain.

[Doro]

I thought this had been cancelled? should I unsticky it?

[100%Pat]

I dont think its cancelled just that Yoda cannot make it now and he was the organiser.

Griff I think those times and prices were due to the fact that some travelling were disabled and needed more time/stops/better accomadation... :D

[Yoda]

The organised trip is 'Postponed' this year
but there may be a long way around trip there next year ride

Dover to Calais and ride down from there

Not definate yet

but Moto Club De Faro have heard that i am not coming and said that they may cancel the rally because of it :) :)


Ps Pat you can unsticky this if you need to

Yoda