Freedom of speach ?

[RedRobbie]

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller


Freedom of speach does not give you the right to shout fire in a crouded theatre when there is no fire. Unknown American judge.

Both a bit heavy I know but I found these whilst researching for a speach I have to do tomorrow at John Moores University. I am addressing the under graduates about what the phrase "freedom of speach" realy means and do we realy have it.

Any thoughts on the subject would be most welcome.

[Crofty]

This is only my opinion, but I think, everybody has the right to say what they want to say, But in an appropriate way, for example in the pub or at home with their friends a racist (I'm not one) should have every right to say what they think about things of that nature, but it wouldn't be right for them to say it where it would deliberatly cause offense. Freedom of speech is a basic human right, but it is one of many. The right to not be intimidated is another. One day Someone might decide that the majority thinks that bikers are dirty and wrong, and should be stamped out (more so than in the past) and I'd like to think that I could still do and believe what i do without hurting anyone despite what the majority thinks. In the case of the BNP (I'm just going with the racist thing because it's a big topic at the mo) I don't think they've got the right idea at all, and I'll vote against them when the time comes. but even though I and I belive many others think that they're well out there in wrong town, They should still be allowed to speak their opinions in an appropriate way and not be stamped out by force. What is "appropriate" you could spend years on, but that's just my 2p's worth.

[Sir Ewok]

The other problem that occurs is where does free speech end and criminal, treasonous or libelous statement begin. Abu hamsa tried to stir up racial and religious bigotry against white christians and the government had to wait months (and only after the Americans wanted to extradite him) to bang him up. On the other hand as mentioned above, you have the BNP (also not a supporter or a racist) who are mainly white peeps trying to stir up racial and religious bigotry and they get banned from speaking or publishing thier views. Don't ask me where to draw the line as I am very un-PC, but also try to treat peeps the way I would like them to treat me.....

[Freak]

Is there a difference between freedom of speech and speaking freely ??

[mr.chaz]

I don't have a problem with freedom of speech....
but when I want your opinion - I'll give it to you! :)