Suzukiron Rants Again..(well its been a while!)

[Suzukiron]

Well its been a while, but events have provoked this Rant….it probably isn’t gonna be humourous, I will try, but I kinda have my serious, business like head on at the moment….I just think the folks here need to know whats going on elsewhere on the WWW!
But firstly, I wanna appologies to Pat in advance, if this brings her any flack…but I do believe a precedent has already been set for this type of rant, so I dinnae expect it to be deleted!!!!!! As in the end all I am doing is telling the truth, and exposing a corrupt system that would like to believe it is superior to all, when infact its core is nothing more than a rotten wee clique that’s got a bit big fer its nurocks!!

And the title of this is……

The *****-**** welcomes all…….my big fat hairy bike riding ass it does!!!

Ive been BANNED!!!!!……not once, but twice from another internet forum, for asking nothing more than to gain access to the “secret forum” contained within its set up. I haven’t even posted there for a while, cos in truth im not interested in them, but I dinnae like “closed doors” it means theres summat to hide, which means people are being cowardly and dishonest, two character traits I despise.Yeah I admit I have been a wee bit persistant over the past week in trying to get into this forum, but I have always been polite and courteous to the Administrator in any communications I have sent to him. And the reason I wish to gain access? Well I now know without a shadow of a doubt that there are some not very pleasant things said about myself, and some friends of mine as well, not just at the moment but for over a year.
Certain people had tried to dissuade me from this action, by saying nothing is or has been said but, I have decided that they are mearly “smoke screening” for want of a better word….an action I find quite funny and also futile. As futile as me attempting to take legal action (before I was banned I might add!!) as I understand it would be costly, and I dinnae wanna be wasting money on something so insignificant as a bloody internet forum, containing some not very nice, (or attractive…I might add!!) people of all sex’s (again im choosing my words carefully) as I know some do have gender confusion issues!! Unlike here where everybody is lovely n fluffy n sweetness n light…aye right, my big fat hairy ass again. (the difference is here the majority are honest, n generally funny, n take this all with a great big pinch of salt…(or a dollop of ice cream if that’s more to yer liking! ;-) )
As I have said before if only I could access this site from work it would be great..but doh, theres tits!! so access denighed!! Rollox!!
Heres a suggestion, how about a light version of the forum…that could be accessable, and relatively work safe…Has it been looked into Pat?
Anyway, why am I pissed off…..well the *****-**** have crossed over into my real world. As some of you may or may not know, I was to attend Doro n Gypsys wedding in May, And assist with the ceremony but I cannae due to the fact that a number of *****-**** clique members are going to this event, which has lead to me letting both Doro n Gypsy down, I know they understand, but it still gets on my woollen mitts, that I cannae do summat fer someone I like without the fact that some daft bint (or maybe even more than one!!Or there blokes fer that matter!!)is very likely gonna get drunk and get in my face over an opinion I expressed a number of years ago now!!!FFS, I cant legislate if they don’t have the class to see it is someones special day, and I am there to celebrate with my friends, so again Doro n Gypsy I would like to apologise to you both publically for letting you both down…sorry..L
Which brings me to the point…Why have I been banned from this other site? Whats being said about me and others that they are so afraid, even paranoid that I should see it? I have a feeling I am getting close to the truth (summat they would know nothing about, even if it climbed up n bit them on there collective extremely ample arse!). I know initially when I made enquiries they were ignored…perhaps they hoped I would go away?…I think we all know the answer to that LOL
So now im Banned!! I didn’t even know until this morning when I tried again unsuccessfully to log into the main site, nevermind the “secret forum”, I eventually decided to see if I could get my password sent to me, when I got the message “Your account has been deactivated” what a lot of bollox, I’ve done nothing but tried to gain information!. So I then registered and logged a new password, and then PM the Administrator asking why my account had been deactivated!…I was advised by phone at about 3.30pm today that this new alias had also been BANNED!! FFS I hadden’t even posted a single thing…..So what are they hiding? I guess I may never know, but it does beggar the question…what else are they upto? Besides slagging me n a few other people off?
There is of course one other wee problem, I am also registered on another forum, which at the moment is down…(now did I predict that or not..?) again I won’t mention it by name in order to save Pat from embaressment, but its forum as well as other bits, are linked directly to the *****-**** site…so effectively that’s 2 places I’m banned from, And I have actually been advised to contact a solicitor about this one thing because it should not be so…so I have that to do tonite/tommorow..when I finish this?
I have just noticed how long I have been rambling?..
The jist of this is…How would you like this to happen to you? You have done nothing wrong, and still you get Banned? I dunno..
I do however know, I will continue to write my rants, challenge the system, and stand up for Truth, Honesty, Fairness, and Justice, and still look at the funny side…yah gotta or you go down..
Later Days all
Ron
(oh well I dinnae think I have said anything most folks didnae already know?)
;) :mad: :rolleyes:

[zeddman]

Well I wuddent worry too much,the kn0bheads wuddent let me sign said 'the username has already been regested'..........yeah to me when it were called 'bikersweb', before it turned into 'whingersweb'

[WeaverII]

I'm not normally in the habit of responding to Suzkuiron's bull****, but since most people on 100% arn't familiar with his past I'd better spell it out.

Suzukiron started off going on Bikersweb, posting offensive and insulting remarks and then hiding biehind, "it's just ma' opinion! I'm entitiled to ma' opinion!", when MOST people told him he was being a prick. In particular, he subjected such a constant stream of abuse and, I'm told, cyber-stalking at two of his exs who post on there that they ceased posting entirely just to get away from him.

Highlights of Ronnie's "wit" included:

Starting a vitiolic and insulting "trikers arn't proper bikers" thread, just to get at one ex who rides a trike. (and this guy was going to have to nerve to show up at NABD)

When his other ex had a bike accident (not her fault) and a "sympathy" thread was put up, he went on there and GLOATED about it, implying that she'd got what she deserved.

A young lad from Scotland was riding down to the Farmyard last year and had an accident. Without knowing ANYTHING about the circumstances of the accident, Ron launched a vicious attack on the guy who had inspected his bike the week before on the ASSUMPTION that it must be his fault. The bike was perfect and the accident rider error.

Ronnie's exs fled to the Chaos-Crew website, where he followed them and continued his campaign. When EVERYBODY on there told him he was being a prick, then instead of thinking:

"Gee, if everybody says I'm being a prick them maybe I am being one"

he instead concluded:

"If everybody says I'm a prick then THEY MUST ALL BE CONSPIRING AGAINST ME!!!!!"

He then went looking for "evidence" of this conspiracy, and what do you know, he found it. He dug up an old thread from months before where the pros and cons of setting up a "member's only" area had been debated. Voila - he had his conspiracy!

There were two supreme ironies in this:

1) The conclusion of the debate was that we didn't want a member's only forum because people might feel left and wonder what was going on in there

2) His exs were keen on the idea specifically so that they could have a conversation that WASN'T about Ronnie, because he was pissing all over everything they posted on open forums.

Eventually, all the decent, reasonable people on Chaos Crew got sick and tired of trying to reason with him, and started taking the piss. It started with a thread full of "secret code messages" ("the auspicious salmon swims backwards at noon" type of thing) which couldn't have been a more obvious wind up. Then PC (the admin over there) decided to give Ronnie what he wanted and created the infamous "Secret Forum".

A few things to note about the Secret Forum:

1) So dedicated is PC to persecuting Ronnie, that he didn't even notice for six months that he'd got the permissions for it wrong and NOBODY could even see it, let alone post on it. He only realised after another bout of paranoid ranting from Ronnie on Bikersweb.

2) The Secret Forum appears on the freaking index page labelled "Secret Forum". How obvious a wind-up is that? If we really wanted to have a secret forum, Ronnie would never have known it even existed.

3) So many people have been let into the Secret Forum on request that most of what's there leaks out anyway.

4) If we really wanted to talk about him behind his back, why would we even bother with a secret forum anyway? What're e-mail and PMs for?

The secret forum is a really dull place. There isn't much about Ronnie on there except for the occasional exasperated pointer to his latest rant, and some fairly sarcastic piss-taking. IIRC, he hadn't even been mentioned on there for the last few months, and NOTHING had been posted on there in the week before his "ultimatum" to PC. This ultimatum included the dire threat that he was "watching the thread and post counts" on the secret forum (why?), so we decided to give him something to count. Three quarters of the posts that have appeared on there in the past week have been utter drivel just to get the stats up.

Ronnie has been told by just about EVERYBODY on ALL the forums he's posted on, including people who don't like the Chaos Crew for their own reasons, that he's being an idiot, and that he should grow up, move on and let it drop. He's been told in words of one syllable, too many times to count, that it's all a WIND-UP that HE provoked and keeps ressurecting periodically.

But "a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest": he's got his straw man to tilt at so he has to keep standing it up again.

Ronnie thinks he's digging a tunnel to get the "truth", and a huge evil conspiracy is busily building the other side of the mountain up to thwart him.

Wrong.

It's a hole Ronnie. You, and only you, dug it, and you're still digging it deeper.

If you don't like being in a hole, then stop digging.

If you DO like being in a hole, then get professional help.

One more thing: there was NO conspiracy to cause trouble for Ronnie, and especially Doro and Gypsy at the NABD. Somebody started a perfectly reasonable "who's going to NABD?" thread, on which someone else pointed out that Ronnie would be there, which was greeted with much amusement.

Now here's the shocking inside news from the Secret Forum: someone else posted on there that it was very important not to give Ronnie an excuse to to spoil things for Doro and Gypsy and blame it on us, and then the posts about it on both forums ceased.

Ron: if you piss off enough bikers, then sooner or later you WILL bump into some of them at a rally. To suggest that this self-evident fact is some kind of scheme to ruin Doro and Gypsy's wedding plans is utterly despicable and you should be ashamed of yourself. You created this problem, nobody else. When you agreed to do it, did you seriously think that NO-ONE from Chaos Crew would be attending a popular rally in the middle of the country?

Doro and Gypsy: I am truly, genuinely sorry that Ronnie has led you on and let you down. No one wanted to get "political" by querying your choice, but no one's very surprised at the outcome, either. Truly sorry.

[Doro]

hey weaver we like you and we've met you a few times, and we've met lotsa folk from all the forums, we do like you all, but some of the points you made below were one-sided. You have to look at the whole picture.

I'm not going to defend anyone as I prefer to sit on the fence where I can see everything, but, there has been bad stuff done from both sides, and a lot of the stuff you say Ron has done, has been done by others, without the same personal attacks that have been directed to Ron.

I watched all the 'goings on' with interest because I am nosy and I do like a bit of gossip

so I have seen both sides of this argument. I'd like to say a couple of things to even out the see-saw a bit

first, one of his exes deliberately came onto this forum at xmas and copied part of ron's rant into BW

why??

it was not about her or BW or anyone else, it was a rant

was that not deliberately stirring trouble? Yes it was.

and as for him wishing bad things on an ex, well I did think that was a bit off to do it so publically , but who hasn't wished ill on an ex? (see the exes thread in the bitchatorium!) especially when there's a lot of hurt and bad feeling about, yes, I will admit, I have wished ill on many people who have hurt me. But, in my opinion, they deserved it for hurting me, childish? yes. But then we all still have that angry inner child!


seems to me that at the end of the day there are many people who go on forums and behave exactly like Ron, but they have 'friends' who stick up for them and make them seem 'ok really'

as far as the wedding is concerned....


we were let down by the company of actors who were going to do the ceremony, and we wanted a scottish fella who we 'knew' but who wasn't a close friend (hence we didn't ask shade) and we both chose Ron.

he kindly agreed to do it, though he had reservations, and he has helped us a great deal with finding the correct parts of the ceremony etc.

Ron sadly pulled out as he knew certain people would want to have a go at him during the rally - no suggestion that it would spoil the actual wedding, but it wouldn't be very nice for him.

Now we appreciated Ron's reasons, and we agreed that he was right. So what does that tell you?

we think Ron is simply a scapegoat for all the ills of other forums.

we don't think everything he does or says is right, but that doesn't mean we publically berate him.

as with all relationships, there are two sides to every story.

and I appreciate the fact that you are giving 'the other side' of this story.

now I've given our take on the whole Ron and the wedding thing.

we just wish folk would save their judgement of people and situations for 'reality' and not 'virtuality'

a favourite poem of mine starts with the lines

'never believe the worst of a man when once you have seen his best'

or summat

naive I may be, or not, all I know is that it was a tangled mess and not all parties were innocent, just that one came off better than the other.

also Ron has had a rant, he didn't mention any other forum by name, you did that hin :confused:

[Jim]

Doro,

I reckon both sides have had there say how about closing this before everbody jumps in and it becomes a them and us scenario?

[WeaverII]

Doro - yes, it was a case of "giving the other sie of the story" and yes, you and Gypsy are perfectly entitled to make your own judgements.

A few points if I may:

Ronnie mentioned the "*****-****" forum and that it had a "secret forum". To anybody who surfs these boards, it's perfectly obvious who he's talking about and he knows that. If I posted something about "that girl with the same name as a German Rock singer which also means "gold" in Italian", then you would be perfectly entitled to believe I was talking about you, and any claim of mine to the contrary would be treated with disbelief.

The examples I gave of Ronnie's behaviour were just the first few I could think of off the top of my head. They are merely the tip of a vast iceberg of spite and abuse.

I don't neccessarily agree with everything that has been done in response to Ronnie, but I am convinced, based on what I've read with my own two eyes that:

a) he has largely brought it on himself,
b) he has done FAR more to keep it going than anyone else.

I dispute the idea that you should ignore anything that someone posts on-line until you meet them in person. What a person posts on-line is a matter of record and, as Ronnie is fond of pointing out, you should stand by it and accept the consequences or not say it in the first place. If Ronnie says things on-line that make him appear to be a bloody fool, then he can reasonably expect to be treated on-line as a bloody fool.

Looking forward to seeing you both at the NABD, hon.

[Mitch]

Mrs R says:

ooooer....it's a bit much for this time o' the morning when you've been pissed for 24 hours :)

[WeaverII]

Jim - 100% Biker is mercifully free of this stuff and I COMPLETELY sympathise with any and all of you who want to keep it that way (I'm also somewhat envious, to be honest). I've responded to:

a) a public attack on me and mine, and

b) a post that was directly addressed to me, querying some of what I'd said.

As far as I'm concerned, that is IT, and I won't be the one to carry it on unless someone else does.

See you in a field somewhere.

[Sir Ewok]

As for the Trikers Ain't bikers, we had it on here too, which upset me a lot at the time, but we didn't have any of his ex's. So how would that relate to a personal attack, rather than a personal opinion......
It may be that the opinion was formed due to an ex having a trike, but what the hell, how do we form personal opinions about anything (from bikers to illegal immigrants).
As I say the thread did hurt me at the time and I fought back with everything I had, but that doesn't mean that I should dislike a man just because I disagree with him. If that was the case I would end up a very sad and lonely person, like several peeps I have known in the past.

[Doro]

Mrs R says:

ooooer....it's a bit much for this time o' the morning when you've been pissed for 24 hours :)



tell us more Mrs

how'd you get to be pissed for 24 hours?


ha ha last time me n gypsy had a heavy drinking and 'stuff' session we had a video recorder with us and I fell out of bed, which hurt a lot cos it's an iron bed, well not real iron, just hard metal :( but I caught my arm on the way down

and he just laughed at me

and I was all bruised *sniff*

must also add that it's a super king-size bed (6' x 6' I think), quite hard to fall out of really :p

[Gypsy]

LMAO that was so funny, brings a big smile to my face thinking about it :D :D

[Doro]

see - told you - just laughs at me *sniff*

:D

[Gypsy]

he he gonna have to find the tape now to have a laugh at :D

[Mad Dog]

he he gonna have to find the tape now to have a laugh at :D

You were videoing at the time !
:D :D :D

[TaxiDave]

You were videoing at the time !
:D :D :D


I thought that MD. In a 6' x 6' bed with a video camera, and rolling about enough to fall out. Mmmm. Conjures up all sorts of images. :D

[Gypsy]

yeah lmao :D :D :D

[Doro]

ooops

s'pose I'd better be nice to him now, in case I suffer the same fate as pammy and paris

but then I'd probably be in the freak show (no offence Mr Freak lol)


:cool:


doggone it

[Gypsy]

he he *evil grin*

[Mad Dog]

So I guess there'll be a couple of people rushing home in their lunch hour today to either

watch/delete the tape (or record a new one) !! :D :D

[Abb]

This smacks of an unauthorised hijack attempt.

Abb
Hijackers Guild (ret)

[Gypsy]

oooo abbs is telling doro she is not authorised.... beware the wrath if the short one :D

[Mad Dog]

[QUOTE=Abb]This smacks of an unauthorised hijack attempt.QUOTE]

Depends on which page they're up to in the "Lovers' Guide" :D

Really no need for us to go into detail, unless we can get hold of the tape. :cool:

[Blue]

This smacks of an unauthorised hijack attempt.

Abb
Hijackers Guild (ret)

I thought Mad Dog was the paramilitary wing of the Hijackers Guild?

[Abb]

No, we, the Hijacker Guild High Council, have always stressed that politics, not violence, is the way. We understand and sympathise with the actions of those who would take military actions against the enemy, but we have never taken part in the organisation and planning or operations of this kind.

Anyway, MadDog is a splinter group, an offshoot of the Provisional Hijackers Guild. He calls himself the Real Hijackers. They are not representative of the will of the Hijacker people.

[Mad Dog]

We'll have no mention of the Para's in here.

MD
3 Brigade
King's Squad
42 Commando
M.A.W.C

[bill?]

has anyone noticed there is a Joe Cocker concert on the performance channel at the moment.

its rather good, and if you look very carefully at the audience you might see me.

[Freak]

ooops

s'pose I'd better be nice to him now, in case I suffer the same fate as pammy and paris but then I'd probably be in the freak show (no offence Mr Freak lol) :cool:
doggone it

:eek: I don't remember a film crew :o (None taken :D)

[Huw Beer Monster]

has anyone noticed there is a Joe Cocker concert on the performance channel at the moment.

its rather good, and if you look very carefully at the stage you might see the bloke singing looks like Mad Dog's avatar.

That's Amazing! ;)

[Dusty]

ha ha last time me n gypsy had a heavy drinking and 'stuff' session we had a video recorder with us and I fell out of bed,

and I was all bruised *sniff*

:p

ANY CHANCE OF YOU POSTING THAT VIDEO ON THE FORUM ? :D :D

[Gypsy]

not a chance lmao , i like my bolox where they are thanks :D

[Blue]

MadDog is a splinter group.

That's a new and very surreal description of my favourite Dame.

[kitkatman]

f@ck me ' chill out chaps, this is the only forum i belong too and i only joined last month, and i have had comps for donkeys, you chaps are a great source of imformation and to have a giggle with, there thats that said!

[technoboiler]

who aint chilled kity?....daft shyte,,,,lol

[Bosun]

who aint chilled kity?....daft shyte,,,,lol
chilled it blooming freeezing down here



will have to look for me gloves
or a warm pub

[technoboiler]

chilled it blooming freeezing down here



will have to look for me gloves
or a warm pub


am sooooo fekin chilled i had to put the heating on full bore so i can sit here neked..... :p

[kitkatman]

who aint chilled kity?....daft shyte,,,,lol
i'm chilled baby, well i have got the fire on because its too chilly outside!
i am a daft shyte as well!

[Bosun]

am sooooo fekin chilled i had to put the heating on full bore so i can sit here neked..... :p




mmmm nekkked eh

oi defarter pass the tissues.....
















no not the used ones YUK

[Spike]

am sooooo fekin chilled i had to put the heating on full bore so i can sit here neked..... :p

Dont suppose ya have a webcam do ya ? :p

[technoboiler]

any one for a bit warm kebab,,,,,,pmsl ;)


fek me i disgust myself,,,,,,,,,,,, :rolleyes:

[kitkatman]

any one for a bit warm kebab,,,,,,pmsl ;)


fek me i disgust myself,,,,,,,,,,,, :rolleyes:
has it been pre chewed

[technoboiler]

has it been pre chewed

been round the block a few times pet :D

[Gypsy]

my mate woke up one morning after one or two beers :rolleyes: with his face buried in a nice cold solidified kebab

[technoboiler]

my mate woke up one morning after one or two beers :rolleyes: with his face buried in a nice cold solidified kebab


wasnt called pete by any chance was he,,,,,shoulda closed the fekin winda.....lol

[Gypsy]

no he was called steve but if you had seen his missus you would realise why he slept with the kebab :D

[Dougie]

my mate woke up one morning after one or two beers :rolleyes: with his face buried in a nice cold solidified kebab
At least he had breakfast ready to eat!

[purplerabbit]

not a chance lmao , i like my bolox where they are thanks :D

quite after all now you are getting married you are going to need them intact :)

looking forward to seeing you, and i am more than a little interested in how d'oro managed to fall out of a super king sized bed??? you will have to fill me on that one

samx

[Krissa]

Ha, found you guys. Gypsy and Doro, do you want us to bring our camcorder to video the wedding for you, or have you got that sorted. Or even, do you want us to do a video thingy mabob anyway as an extra view on things? I wanted to do one of the rally anway and then thought oooooooo i know someone who might want a copy of it. Let me know what you think.

[Doro]

hi krissa and welcome to here ;)


anyways, all photo/video type stuff is most welcome - see the link on gypsy's signature for more info


btw we might not need the extra tents that lemmy said he'd provide for the guys who were originally gonna do the ceremony, could you tell him for us please (reckon you probs got his number?)

thanks hin :)

[Krissa]

That is not a problem, will be seeing him tonight anyhoo. So no extra tents and i shall do a generally rally video then with footage of wedding in middle and give you a copy of it. There may be quite a lot of our bike club on there so in fact will probably edit it out but you will get something either way. It will do until i can think of something better to give you guys as a present.