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fade2black
09-02-2005, 09:33 AM
Take a look at these artists road signs.
My Lady without doubt fits the first one but I want to print out the 4th one and pass it on to many people :D :D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4244143.stm
Mrs Reject
09-02-2005, 09:41 AM
It's the public transport one that gets me!!! I remember when my sprogg was a .....sprogg and I had to lug the pram about (I didn't have a car in those days). Bloody nightmare and couldn't go shopping anywhere where there were steps and noone helped me drag said pram on and off bus - twas truly hell. I remember really feeling for wheelchair users at the time....still do! :mad: Nothing much has changed 20 years later.
Strange old world really.
My wife's long-time friend used to hate seeing disabled people and would cross the road to avoid them(generalisation). She was derogatory about them and used some pretty cruel names to describe them too.
When her first son was born disabled, she said to my wife that she felt she was being punished for what she had done.
I think the sign dipicting that fact that not all disablilities are obvious is a thought provoker.
Sir Ewok
09-02-2005, 10:33 AM
Brill, My lad lived with a deaf girl (with whom he has 2 girls) and the amount of peeps that thought she was simple because she couldn't speak properly. On a slightly different tack, my lad learnt to do sign language so he could talk to her and her deaf friends. When we went to Bangkok, we visited the market to buy souveniers. One of the stall holders was deaf and my son had quite a chat with him, which both enjoyed. The Thai guy was pleased to be able to talk to someone different (and make a couple of sales) and my lad had no language barrier as most countries (Speak) British Sign Language. The following day we went back to finish off our shopping and at a different stall we asked the young lady the price of a certain item and she signed to the guy we had met the night before "How much do we add for the tourists". The guy was in a panic waving and signing back that my lad could read sign language. We had a good laugh and got a goodish price...... :D
technoboiler
09-02-2005, 12:59 PM
i have always thought that the international language should be sign,,,
i believe it should be taught in schools along with basic first aid
Mrs Reject
09-02-2005, 01:27 PM
i have always thought that the international language should be sign,,,
i believe it should be taught in schools along with basic first aid
What in case you poke someone in the eye :D
fade2black
09-02-2005, 01:27 PM
i have always thought that the international language should be sign,,,
i believe it should be taught in schools along with basic first aid
I totally agree. Through my work with people with disabilities (ironic huh after my wife ends up in a chair and she used to work with me!) I learned sign language. A friend of mine who was doing an English Degree at the time asked me to teach him some and I taught him the alphabet. Several months later he was at a gig and he saw a girl who had collapsed and saw that paramedics and friends were helping and so didnt bother to intervene. When he looked again he saw that she was signing and no-one else could understand. He asked her to spell in sign slowly and it was her friends name, Jessica I think it was, so he said, wheres Jessica?. She came and was able to explain the girls medical situation which was quite complex.
The girl then asked my mate to go to hospital with her so that he could translate for her there. He was astounded how much difference it made to know only 26 signs( one for each letter) to this girl.
So take a little time and go to this page
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ian.barnsley/bslsite/bslindex.html
and learn the alphabet. Not only can you save peoples lives or help people in trouble its great for talking across a busy noisy pub party etc.
Mind you it is also useful for me and the missus to have a blazing row while sat round a table of ouur friends without anyone else realising (dont know if thats good or bad mind :confused: )
Mrs Reject
09-02-2005, 01:30 PM
Mind you it is also useful for me and the missus to have a blazing row while sat round a table of ouur friends without anyone else realising (dont know if thats good or bad mind :confused: )
It's a good thing as long as you have mastered the art of smiling pleasantly while you are doing it - nothing worse than a couple glaring at each other with hatred over dinner :)
fade2black
09-02-2005, 01:32 PM
We were!!
About a dozen people were sat with us and chatting with us and they knew nothing about it. Didnt even realise. Thought everyone ad had a great night!!!!
technoboiler
09-02-2005, 01:35 PM
What in case you poke someone in the eye :D
pmsl,,,,,never thought of that,,,,lol,,,daft begga :cool: :D
My favourite crip disability signs are in my avatar
Yoda
Santa
09-02-2005, 01:56 PM
I couldn't agree more that BSL and first aid should be taught in schools as a compulsory part of the corriculum. It also disgusts me that legislation was passed which said that ALL shops and businesses should be fully wheelchair accessible by (I believe) the beginning of this year, but very many have just ignored this law, and nobody seems to be enforcing it!
I am very proud of the fact that we , as bikers, seem to have a better track record than almost any other group of people I know in being disadvantaged (I hate the word disabled) aware. Most clubs try to make sure that rally sites are accessible, and organisations like NABD (which everyone should support and affiliate to) do a wonderful job keeping people mobile (hope that doesn't sound patronising, it's not intended to be).
I'm not disabled i am Spethal
anyway
as regards the accesibiliy issue i have two views on this
1, i accept that there are going to be places off limits to me dut to the logistics of implimenting full accessability
2, all buildings and places that can accomodate disabled people (mobility disabled) shoud have done it by now
as for public transport (i used to be a bus driver) i would never want to travel on a bus in my wheelchair, bus's by their very nature are not wheelchair friendly, and even those that have ramps etc.. the drivers are all on that tight a schedule that if a lot of wheelchair users used the vehicle would make time keeping impossible...and trust me time keeping without added delays of disabled people is tight enough
Disabled people get DLA mobility component..this means you can get a car with insurance servicing etc..paid for...
if you dont want a car then it can go towards taxi costs...£39 pw Admittedly wouldnt pay for a lot of taxi's but the DLA mobility is there to aid with transportation
and even if you couldnt drive you can have a car on your drive and have two named drivers on the insurance
so whilst i am all for most things that help disabled people i also realise that in this world a lot of things aint possible.
..
i went into a new superstore the other day (levines in tysley birmingham)
great disable parking
automatic doors
brilliant except when i went in they had that much stock rammed in (now remember this is a big open superstore sized building...i couldnt even get 10 feet inside the store due to settee's placed as a yoda trapping device..barstewards
Otter
09-02-2005, 03:55 PM
Mrs Otter is learning BSL in evening classes and has been practicing on me at home. It is useful to 'talk' and not be 'overhead'.
But ASL is also quite widely used in other parts of the world.
And even different parts of this country have different ways of signing words and phrases (eg F*** **ff)
Crofty
09-02-2005, 04:01 PM
my lad had no language barrier as most countries (Speak) British Sign Language. :D
I've always wondered if there was an international sign language, the actions you use in driving for example, wouldn't differ from country to country (except france), i suppose grammar would be slightly different. Does anyone know if most sign language is similar? Oh, and great story Ewok.
Jonnyfp
09-02-2005, 04:12 PM
I'm not disabled i am Spethal
PMSL........ :D
TaxiDave
09-02-2005, 04:29 PM
brilliant except when i went in they had that much stock rammed in (now remember this is a big open superstore sized building...i couldnt even get 10 feet inside the store due to settee's placed as a yoda trapping device..barstewards
Thats because all the expensive leather chairs and settee's are kept at the back of the store and they are just about sick and tired of you and your young Phillipino friend leaving stains on them that just won't soak in. They've got to stop you making a mess somehow. :D
but my phillipino friend always cleans up after me
disciplekidd
09-02-2005, 07:52 PM
What in case you poke someone in the eye :D
With what? :D
kitkatman
09-02-2005, 08:06 PM
It's the public transport one that gets me!!! I remember when my sprogg was a .....sprogg and I had to lug the pram about (I didn't have a car in those days). Bloody nightmare and couldn't go shopping anywhere where there were steps and noone helped me drag said pram on and off bus - twas truly hell. I remember really feeling for wheelchair users at the time....still do! :mad: Nothing much has changed 20 years later.
my wife for 2 days last week went to get the bus and the prats got the old ones out and she could'nt get the buggy on,in this day and age i thought that they would have sorted the bloody problem out and made everything accesible,
maybe blair should try a chair for a week and see how he gets on
Otter
10-02-2005, 12:22 AM
Does anyone know if most sign language is similar?
No, not really.
As an example - the letter 'U'.
On the TV advert the guy does the ASL version not the BSL version.
/Most/ ASL is done one-hand whereas /most/ BSL takes two hands.
Sir Ewok
10-02-2005, 01:50 AM
Yes the Americans had to be different and obviously some dialect or ocassion specifric words may only exist in certain languages.
Santa
10-02-2005, 08:30 PM
The yanks would have to sign one handed, cos the other hand is always full of junk food :D .
ForestFred
11-02-2005, 12:05 AM
The yanks would have to sign one handed, cos the other hand is always full of junk food :D .
Or they're to busy masturbating :D
fade2black
11-02-2005, 05:06 AM
or they are just plain awkward
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