Question of 50cc

[Zeek]

Back in the days when the Yam FS1E, Suzuki AP50, Honda SS50, Garelli tiger cross, Malaguti chopper....were all wizzing around the streets............ can anyone remember what was Kawasaki's offering to the 50cc market............ just to restore some sanity to some mates who were arguing this very question.......

anyone ?

[Jay]

Back in the days when the Yam FS1E, Suzuki AP50, Honda SS50, Garelli tiger cross, Malaguti chopper....were all wizzing around the streets............ can anyone remember what was Kawasaki's offering to the 50cc market............ just to restore some sanity to some mates who were arguing this very question.......

anyone ?


Was it the AR50?

[Otter]

Back in the days when the Yam FS1E, Suzuki AP50, Honda SS50, Garelli tiger cross, Malaguti chopper....were all wizzing around the streets............ can anyone remember what was Kawasaki's offering to the 50cc market............ just to restore some sanity to some mates who were arguing this very question.......

anyone ?

At the time Kawasaki didn't have a 50cc mo-ped available in the UK. I think the smallest they had was a 100cc bike.

The AR50 arrived after the 50cc bikes were made to comply with the restricted power/speed limits.

[ForestFred]

Back in the days when the Yam FS1E, Suzuki AP50, Honda SS50, Garelli tiger cross, Malaguti chopper....were all wizzing around the streets............ can anyone remember what was Kawasaki's offering to the 50cc market............ just to restore some sanity to some mates who were arguing this very question.......

anyone ? I must admit I remember all those an a couple more ie Gilera & Casal( I had the SS4 ) but as fer Kwakers the only one I recall is the AR50 but I reckon that was later than the days yer on about (dont think they made a KH50 an the Honda was the only 4 stroke I remember)

[Strider]

Sanity??? Whats that then???
Agreed with the bleow, they didnt do one until you could have a 50cc motorbike as opposed to a moped ....

Anyone ever try pedaling a FS1E btw??? :D :D :D

P.S. there were also the fragile Fantic's too

[krammer]

Sanity??? Whats that then???
Agreed with the bleow, they didnt do one until you could have a 50cc motorbike as opposed to a moped ....

Anyone ever try pedaling a FS1E btw??? :D :D :D

P.S. there were also the fragile Fantic's too i remember pedalling like the clappers on my fs1e! all things are relative but it seemed quite nippy at the time :o

[dracken1]

the above are all correct.
no kawa 50 back then.
jeez those garellis could shift.
and there was the fantic caberlero

by krammer
i remember pedalling like the clappers on my fs1e! all things are relative but it seemed quite nippy at the time

yes we had a laugh at you last week when you past us on the m6. your peddaling was just a blur :D

[Zeek]

must admit, never had 1 meself (I had the high powered 80cc Yam !!! :D )...............but do remember the racket they made when ya took the baffles out............ :D .........think me bruv had the Gilera 50cc trials type at the time...... was fun............for a while....

[Otter]

Couldn't pedal my AP50 as the chain links were all solid.
Yes, it seemed nippy - 55mph on the clock - after being used to a top speed of 30mph(-ish) on my push bike - was fast enough for a spotty sixteen-year-old.

Was picking up some fork oil yesterday and a Sachs MadAss (http://www.planetbikes.co.uk/sachs_madass_50.shtml) was up on the ramp having it's first service. Compared with other current 50cc go-peds it didn't seem too bad (apart from the name).

[smeghead]

had a few fsie's but also had a garelli rekord and a puch, still got a fs1e and an ss50 in the shed, also rebuilding a puch m50 sport at the mo with my daughter. i told her if she wants to ride it she has to rebuild it

[Shep]

Never had a 50.....when I got my licence at 16, I could got straight out and ride up to 250cc......without a helmet! Those were the days. :cool:

[Bassman]

Never had a 50.....when I got my licence at 16, I could got straight out and ride up to 250cc......without a helmet! Those were the days. :cool:
Yeah M8... same here...a Honda C72... the 250cc touring version of the CB72... Big mudguards, and electric start!! Yay...... I had that bike for nearly three years, took me all over the country, from Torquay to south wales, and never broke down...Aye...eee... bah..gum... those were the days!! :D :D

[Dougie]

Started with my ol' GS550 and a Sidewinder.As a big fella I felt a hell of a sight safer on that than on a 125.Tried a CB100 once,needed a claw hammer to extract it from my arse crack! :eek:

[defarter]

This might nbe of interest to some of you old 50cc boys :D :D



Available Spring 2004
Is it possible to have exotic and affordable in the same machine? Then check out the all-new Dream 50R. A replica of Honda's original Dream, this track-use-only, limited-issue HRC machine, featuring a high-performance, four-valve, four-stroke engine, is the perfect collector's item for race fans everywhere.

Not street legal.

[Rodders]

I only had a step through thing with a huge fly wheel on the side but it made me grin when it went faster than my peddaling. Can't remember what it was called.

Those Madass's are the danglies. What a brill idea and one step closer to non-conformist mopeds. I want one but I'd like a 1200 cc version.

[Jonnyfp]

This might nbe of interest to some of you old 50cc boys :D :D



Available Spring 2004
Is it possible to have exotic and affordable in the same machine? Then check out the all-new Dream 50R. A replica of Honda's original Dream, this track-use-only, limited-issue HRC machine, featuring a high-performance, four-valve, four-stroke engine, is the perfect collector's item for race fans everywhere.

Not street legal.


I love the styling..got any stats on it df?

[defarter]

I love the styling..got any stats on it df?



Idid try posting this but it never word



http://www.wfuncenter.com/dlrindexsend_pg_nv_veh_8780-2004_Honda_Dream%2050R%20(%20AR02%20).htm


I'll see if i can find the site again ;)

[Jonnyfp]

Don't wink at me ya gay lug!..

:D

[defarter]

jfp....Bit of info mate :D

GENERAL INFORMATION
Manufacturer Honda

Model Year 2004

Model Dream 50R (AR02)

M.S.R.P. $5,499.00*............£3015.84 @ todays exchange rate.

POWERTRAIN
Engine 49cc four-stroke

Displacement 49cc

Bore x Stroke 40.0mm x 39.6mm

Compression Ratio 11.7:1

Fuel Capacity 1.6 gallons

DRIVETRAIN
Carburetion 20mm

Ignition CD

Transmission Six-speed

Clutch Wet multi-plate

DIMENSIONS
Length 70.5 inches

Width 24.2 inches

Height 37.2 inches

Wheelbase 47.0 inches

Dry Weight 156.5 pounds

COLOR OPTIONS
Colors Silver

BRAKES / WHEELS / TIRES
Brakes Front and Rear: Single hydraulic disc

Tires Front and Rear: 2.50 x 18

[defarter]

Don't wink at me ya gay lug!..

:D



thats the last time i bend over in fornt of you ;) ;) ;)

[Jonnyfp]

156.5 pounds ??

do you the power output bud?


sorry directionless twat yes but i'm a sucker for numbers. :D

[Jonnyfp]

thats the last time i bend over in fornt of you ;) ;) ;)



thats the last time i try and pick a glued down pound up... :D

[defarter]

156.5 pounds ??

do you the power output bud?


sorry directionless twat yes but i'm a sucker for numbers. :D


Fuck gotta go and find it again now :rolleyes:

[defarter]

Nope no more info there mate........ ;) ;) ;) :p



Question I'll pm yer..............

[Jonnyfp]

Ok but i'm not that kinda boy...lol

[defarter]

Ok but i'm not that kinda boy...lol



YGM ;) ;)

[Strider]

[QUOTE=Rodders]I only had a step through thing with a huge fly wheel on the side but it made me grin when it went faster than my peddaling. Can't remember what it was called.
[QUOTE]

Raleigh Wisp????

[Strider]

How come most ppl I know say their ped back then could do 55 mph, rose coloured specs I think!!!

Mates at the time all had these;

My FS1E and all my mates FS1E's did just over 45mph, with baffles, a little less without. Only time I saw over 50 on the clock was just before I sold it and the speedo went on the blink. Oh yeah and if it rained heavy, you could see the plug shorting out on the outside of the head, had to push it for 4 miles (thats when I found out how "easy" it wasnt to pedal :D )

The SS50 struggled to do over 40mph, but I beleive you could put an C70/90 motor straight in them?? or was that another myth???

The fantics and garelli's would do a bit over 50mph, does anyone remember the fantic chopper ??? but kept seizing all the time

The callebaro, jeez that was a big bike relatively speaking, but the lad who had that treat it like it was a real off roader, tried to wheelie it out of a rut and the forks caught in the rut and bent like cheese!! :)

The Puch 50, not sure which one it was (M50??) but it was red and was a proper size compared to the rest, it would do 45mph

Best time of my life that was *big sighs*

And have you seen the price ppl want for the damm things on ebay !!!!!!!

WHY?????

[smeghead]

hmm the fs1e ive got here does over 55 with a gurt fat git (me) on it, the puch your thinking of is probably the m50 sport or the m50 granprix, doing one up for my daughter, as for the prices it's because some pillocks will pay that much for em, the fizzy cost me £30 3 years ago lad was offered £1500 for it but he wont part with it, the reason i buy the old mopeds for me kids is i refuse to allow em to ride barbie bikes if they wanna ride they have to ride something with a gearbox and at the same time ,they have to rebuild em on thier own with as little help from me as possible, as imo its important that they learn the mechanical side of the bikes they ride one reason is they will respect the bike more, the main reason is if they break down 90% of the time they can get it going again, and its also bloody good fun bouncing around roundabouts

[Zeek]

Best time of my life that was *big sighs*

And have you seen the price ppl want for the damm things on ebay !!!!!!!

WHY?????


see what ya mean.....jeez :confused: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9809&item=4523663895&rd=1

[Friar Tuck]

Alegedly you could swap the C70 barrel and head on the Honda.

I had a Malaguti Olympique with a one into two exhaust! I got 52mph out of it on the clock so more like 47mph! it also ha slightly bent frame that dropped lovely into right handers but a pig going into leftys! many a time i had to come home and change me underwear!

A mate of mine had one of them Puch VZ50s? looked like a motorbike but had pedals in proper moped config. and the a three speed gear change on the the handlebar. you braked by pedalling backward!