war..uh..good god, whats it good for.....

[kitkatman]

at work the other day, sat in the rest room, a few of us had a conversation that nearly ended up in a bloody riot, here's what it was all about......

we were discussing what starts wars and through a process of elimation we came up with this theory..

if we managed to get rid of...

polaticians
religion
race/colour/creed
ethics
george bush
tony (lionel) blair

then 95% of the wars of the world would not exist...

what nearly stared the riot was one of our drayman decided to call one of the asian temps ' a nation of f++kin terrorists, who ought to go and shove his head up his arse'
this in turn started the rest of them up and then it became a proper rare up...

really really funny.....
so apart from the last bit and in case this conversation should rear it's head up again,
what would be your ideas on the subject...


( all good responses will go in the ammo box for 'the battle of the coffee macine, round 2')

[technoboiler]

get rid of men,,,,,,,girlies dont botha with all that war shoit!...we prefere sex :p

[kitkatman]

get rid of men,,,,,,,girlies dont botha with all that war shoit!...we prefere sex :p


so do I, but someones got to explain that to the wifee.... :D

[defarter]

get rid of men,,,,,,,girlies dont botha with all that war shoit!...we prefere sex :p



Dont forget Bodecea, Big time warrior in her day :D ;)

[technoboiler]

actually,,,she protected her people,,,,a little different from starting war!

[Fran]

Dont forget Bodecea, Big time warrior in her day :D ;)
Maybe she wasn't getting any.... :D

[technoboiler]

i did not say women didnt make great warriors,,,, i just said we rarely start war....cakes to b made and men to keep happy n all that usefull stuff :p

[defarter]

actually,,,she protected her people,,,,a little different from starting war!

Bodecea went to war after her husband was murdered and her daughter/
daughters was raped but towards the end it became a personal vendetta as the people who followed begun to waver, which some think was her downfall :) ;)

[technoboiler]

aint that reiterating what i said?........ffs,,,,,shurrup u daft shoit :p

[defarter]

How about Queen Elizabeth 1st. no politicians then i thinks??? :D

[defarter]

aint that reiterating what i said?........ffs,,,,,shurrup u daft shoit :p


Bitchy bitchy bitchy.......... Guns coming out and not a cake insight :D :D

[RedRobbie]

After careful consideration, in my opinion the best way to avoid war is to kill all your enemies.

[technoboiler]

After careful consideration, in my opinion the best way to avoid war is to kill all your enemies.


here yee defarted one! ;)

[kitkatman]

After careful consideration, in my opinion the best way to avoid war is to kill all your enemies.
here,here....... how... nukes or something a little less harsh, like chemical!!! :D

[Freak]

You can forget your whole list when the oil starts to run out. Ah, maybe not!

[TaxiDave]

get rid of men,,,,,,,girlies dont botha with all that war shoit!


From fifteen years of driving round in the wee small hours of a Saturday and Sunday morning, I've got to say that 6/7 out of 10 fights that I see are girls/women/ladeez knocking seven colours of shiit out of each other.

[technoboiler]

From fifteen years of driving round in the wee small hours of a Saturday and Sunday morning, I've got to say that 6/7 out of 10 fights that I see are girls/women/ladeez knocking seven colours of shiit out of each other.


exactly,,,,,,,,,we r so busy scrappin after the pesh that we get it all outa our system,,,,,
..sorry, i thought we were talkin about the fact men r so insecure then power mad to compensate,,that they start WARS........,,,not the same as scrappin is it now..... ;)

[Jonnyfp]

Maggie Thatcher the Falklands? :rolleyes:

[RedRobbie]

The best way to kill all your enemies and thus avoid war, is to send in the regular army reinforce them with conscripts. Shoot dead as many of them as you can making sure you kill more of them than what kill you. Air attacks on cities (women and kids too) artillery fire SAMS Scuds chemicals and nukes. Keep this going for as long as you can. Involve other countries. Burn all property to the ground , agent orange their crops shoot the refugees, let slip the dogs of war.

I wanna ride a tank with a generals rank, let the Blitzkreig rage and the bodies stank. Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name.

[Jonnyfp]

Theres that whiff of gas again.....and it aint me this time.

[RedRobbie]

I love the smell of napalm in the morning

[Jonnyfp]

Apocalypse now?

[RedRobbie]

Apocalypse now?
The film or is that a suggestion, cos if it is I'm having my horlics then going to bed

[RedRobbie]

Apocalypse now?
I love the sound track from that movie. do you remember this one

de de de der der
de de de der der
de de der der der
de de de deeee

ba de de de der etc



























Flight of the valkiries (Wagner)

[Jonnyfp]

The film or is that a suggestion, cos if it is I'm having my horlics then going to bed



HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

[Sir Ewok]

get rid of men,,,,,,,girlies dont botha with all that war shoit!...we prefere sex :p

Tell that to Maggie Thatcher (Falklands) Boudecia and many other women who have waged wars (or caused them like Helen of Troy)

Shoite, they've already been mentioned..... Should read the whole thread before I answer.
Anyway it is ALWAYS thew fault of women, They're the one's that say behind every great man, there is a woman. Men start wars to get away from the wife's nagging........ :p

[Friar Tuck]

They say war is good for the economy!

[triker_gal]

I'd rather have a good old fisty cuff scrap :D

[Doro]

some phrases which I think sum it all up


1. wars will cease when men refuse to fight ('men' being generic term not gender)

2. the love of money is the root of all evil



religion




that's it in a nutshell



for a more detailed explanation::: money = power and men love power and it's in their genes to be as powerful as they can be, how to get more money and thus more power? start a religion, then you get power from two sides, adoration and money, then you decide a certain tract of land is yer own and make sure it's a rich bit of land with oil and minerals and stuff, or it's of strategic importance, then declare war if you aren't just 'given' the land etc etc etc


go on then, name one war which did not ultimately come down to money??



me? I'm happier poor, so long as you have food and shelter and a bit left over for rallies, that's all we need. :D

[Mrs Reject]

There will always be war, someone will always piss somebody else off. The only answer is to make sure every country in the world is armed to the teeth with lethal nuclear weapons as a deterrant and keep fingers crossed one doesn't go off by mistake :)

[100%Pat]

Anyway it is ALWAYS thew fault of women, They're the one's that say behind every great man, there is a woman. ........ :p



Yes Ewok behind every great man there is a woman..... telling him what to do, what to say and even how to dress himself,
Without women most of you wouldnt know how to get out of bed in the morning............ :D

[defarter]

Yes Ewok behind every great man there is a woman..... telling him what to do, what to say and even how to dress himself,
Without women most of you wouldnt know how to get out of bed in the morning............ :D





Lady Astor: "Winston, if you were my husband I would flavour your coffee with poison"
Churchill: "Madam, if I were your husband, I should drink it"
Sir Winston Churchill

:D :D

[kitkatman]

You can forget your whole list when the oil starts to run out. Ah, maybe not!
very good point!!!... we could use marmite instead! :p

[kitkatman]

Apocalypse now?
any time baby, bring it on!!!

[kitkatman]

. Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name.[/QUOTE]

not david blunkett by any chance, just going by the 'let loose the dogs of war bit'!

[kitkatman]

They say war is good for the economy!
so is tourism!!

[Sir Ewok]

Yes Ewok behind every great man there is a woman..... telling him what to do, what to say and even how to dress himself,
Without women most of you wouldnt know how to get out of bed in the morning............ :D

My point exactly, so men couldn't start wars without the wife's permission..... :D

[kitkatman]

some phrases which I think sum it all up


1. wars will cease when men refuse to fight ('men' being generic term not gender)

2. the love of money is the root of all evil



religion




that's it in a nutshell



for a more detailed explanation::: money = power and men love power and it's in their genes to be as powerful as they can be, how to get more money and thus more power? start a religion, then you get power from two sides, adoration and money, then you decide a certain tract of land is yer own and make sure it's a rich bit of land with oil and minerals and stuff, or it's of strategic importance, then declare war if you aren't just 'given' the land etc etc etc


go on then, name one war which did not ultimately come down to money??



me? I'm happier poor, so long as you have food and shelter and a bit left over for rallies, that's all we need. :D
ok this is the sort of thing i need for the 'battle of the coffee machine 2',
i reckon its going to do one of two things
1. completely stun them and the whole conversation will wittle away to nothing
2.completely stun them and cause a feckin great arguement/punch up

i shall wear a lid in case!

[Sir Ewok]

so is tourism!!

War is just armed tourism.

The vietnam war (which wasn't a war) went on much longer than necessary because the arms industry had the president(s) in their pockets and would not let it end. At the end of the day a lot of American boys lost their lives to line the pockets of a select few industrialists (Same as it ever was). Watch 'We were Soldiers' starring Mel Gibson. A rare look at what the Americans actually went through and even rarer a few political truths. Based on a true story and very gory battle scenes in places, but war ain't pretty (also looks at the situation from the Vietnamese side).
Much recommended.......

[kitkatman]

War is just armed tourism.

The vietnam war (which wasn't a war) went on much longer than necessary because the arms industry had the president(s) in their pockets and would not let it end. At the end of the day a lot of American boys lost their lives to line the pockets of a select few industrialists (Same as it ever was). Watch 'We were Soldiers' starring Mel Gibson. A rare look at what the Americans actually went through and even rarer a few political truths. Based on a true story and very gory battle scenes in places, but war ain't pretty (also looks at the situation from the Vietnamese side).
Much recommended.......
seen the film chap and bloody good it was, totally agree with the vietnam war tourism board bit,
mind you being on the tour bus could be exiteing,

The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round.......
The rest of the bus hits the ground, after jon rambo got on..........
:D

[kitkatman]

My point exactly, so men couldn't start wars without the wife's permission..... :D

i don't need my wife's permission to do anything and if you don't belive me' you can ask her! :D

[Jay]

Wars give me the willies.....hate 'em but essentially English, I wouldn't be here if my ancestors hadn't killed lots of different nationalities and stolen their land....

BUT NOW THE WORM HAS TURNED AND IT'S ALL BEING GIVEN BACK SLOWLY.

Joan of Arc declared war on the English and she was backed by many High Ranking Noblemen (probably a little scared of her).

She became a Martyr because her original trial was fraudy and her death unjust.

I belong to club which has two rules of conversation - you cannot talk about Politics or Religion. You'd be surprised how little that leaves you to argue about.

[kitkatman]

Wars give me the willies.....hate 'em but essentially English, I wouldn't be here if my ancestors hadn't killed lots of different nationalities and stolen their land....

BUT NOW THE WORM HAS TURNED AND IT'S ALL BEING GIVEN BACK SLOWLY.

Joan of Arc declared war on the English and she was backed by many High Ranking Noblemen (probably a little scared of her).

She became a Martyr because her original trial was fraudy and her death unjust.

I belong to club which has two rules of conversation - you cannot talk about Politics or Religion. You'd be surprised how little that leaves you to argue about.
i like the rules of your club, at least you can discuss decent thinks like, women, bikes and beer without the threat of tony blair being bought in to the equation,

[100%Pat]

To bring this back sorta on subject... well nearly.
What I'm finding VERY scary is Mr Big mouth Bush going on at the moment about Syria and Iran....and how he plans them to be next in line and the massive threat to America that they are, even saying that 'The Coalition' (thats feckin US!) will be sorting them out soon! :(

[Jonnyfp]

Yeah..did'nt someone try that about 70 years ago a bit further north on the hemisphere?

hmm now what was his name?


Bush is'nt after the destruction of a belief system altho it may have crossed his mind. he wants oil end of, the way he going about under the veil of humanitarianism is invasion one country at a time.

Your right Pat it is scarey that someone like this has that much power.

[kitkatman]

To bring this back sorta on subject... well nearly.
What I'm finding VERY scary is Mr Big mouth Bush going on at the moment about Syria and Iran....and how he plans them to be next in line and the massive threat to America that they are, even saying that 'The Coalition' (thats feckin US!) will be sorting them out soon! :(
i think bush thinks iran/syria will be another' lets breeze through your country and teach you the american way' job.
this time i think that he is going to be in for a bloody big shock, whatever these peeps have in arms, they are gooing to use them and then depending on whats used we are all technically f++ked, and as for this coalition ****e, who the hell do they think they are, i thought the crusades went back in the 16th century,

oil is the new religion..... and i don't think it matters who side you are on, we are all going to be in this up to our necks!

[wegit]

I think Bush is a f**ckin war monger......If they left the eastern countries alone Iran & Iraq wouldn't know where America was ffs.

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