It does not pay to show off

[defarter]

A lesson for all, 1 Dead... 1 in Prison.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/4226803.stm

[TaxiDave]

If I remember rightly, and I could be wrong here, he was piss balling round a right hander showing off and he lost it and just chucked the bike into the crowd.

[Freak]

7 years...GOOD
I knew Sandy from when she and her husband ran the Ospray pub in Carterton, Oxon. You couldn't have meet two nicer more helpful people. Sandy had only recently recovered from breast cancer.
Hope he gets shagged from behind each n every day :mad: :mad: :mad:

[TaxiDave]

Hope he gets shagged from behind each n every day :mad: :mad: :mad:


Yep, and the con who does the shagging has got Aids so the twats life expectancy is nice and short when he does get out.

[defarter]

Yep, and the con who does the shagging has got Aids so the twats life expectancy is nice and short when he does get out.


7 years is not enough mate the way our laws work he could be out in just over 2 years, he only has to do a third of the sentance and then he is considered for parole... no doubt he will get it. :mad:

[minxy]

Sorry to hear that someone lost their life. My condolences to the family.

Just as a thought though ..... Streetfighter Sunday @ The Ace. Now, if you attended this event and were injured by a rogue monowheeling biker....should you not accept that part of the reason you are there is to see the stunting / loonies and therefore it is a potentially dangerous environment?

I've never been to Bassetts Pole and I'm not relating this back to that case as I'm not sure what the 'vibe' is there.

What do you think?

[Freak]

Sorry to hear that someone lost their life. My condolences to the family.

Just as a thought though ..... Streetfighter Sunday @ The Ace. Now, if you attended this event and were injured by a rogue monowheeling biker....should you not accept that part of the reason you are there is to see the stunting / loonies and therefore it is a potentially dangerous environment?

I've never been to Bassetts Pole and I'm not relating this back to that case as I'm not sure what the 'vibe' is there.

What do you think?

I think this is a very insensative post

[defarter]

Sorry to hear that someone lost their life. My condolences to the family.

Just as a thought though ..... Streetfighter Sunday @ The Ace. Now, if you attended this event and were injured by a rogue monowheeling biker....should you not accept that part of the reason you are there is to see the stunting / loonies and therefore it is a potentially dangerous environment?

I've never been to Bassetts Pole and I'm not relating this back to that case as I'm not sure what the 'vibe' is there.

What do you think?


What i think mate is that he should not have been there, anyone riding with out a license or insurance and out on bail for similar offences, in my opinion should be done for murder..... :mad:

[technoboiler]

I understand what minxy is saying,,,,,
it wasnt mentioned that the guy had previous and no insurance etc...

condolences to the ladies family....very sad accident

[Nitrowing]

Sorry to hear that someone lost their life. My condolences to the family.

Just as a thought though ..... Streetfighter Sunday @ The Ace. Now, if you attended this event and were injured by a rogue monowheeling biker....should you not accept that part of the reason you are there is to see the stunting / loonies and therefore it is a potentially dangerous environment?

I've never been to Bassetts Pole and I'm not relating this back to that case as I'm not sure what the 'vibe' is there.

What do you think?
Again, I haven't been to Bassett's Pole and do not know the specifics of the accident.

I used to go to weekly meets - a couple of hundred bikers all meeting up, wandering around and chatting. Stunting became popular in the biking press and the odd loon would turn up to show what he could do.
More people would turn up, more loons would turn up an ever increasing circle.
If the loons hadn't turned up it would have gone back to normal. Personally, I like to watch them and although I wouldn't like to try and catch a mono-wheeling fireblade, it would be my own fault for standing there and watching (and therefore encouraging) the loon in the first place.
Nobody cries for the rally car drivers to be strung up when a spectator gets mown down.

[Gypsy]

i dont think minxy's post came accross as intended, shes not like that

[Mad Dog]

A display of stunt riding skill should be exactly that, something carried out as a display in a suitable area with catch fencing and suitable insurance, and a safe viewing area.

A skilled rider is someone who has full control of their machine, and is aware enough of the dangers to practice their art in proper circumstances.

A pr1ck is someone who has none of the above.


Last year, in the village where I live, we had a small group of riders turn up at about midnight and practice wheelies and stoppies up and down the road past our houses.

I waited up my drive with the lights off until the next one had "popped" it up on the rear wheel and was approaching fast.

Imagine his surprise when a white transit shot out and blocked the lane right in front of him - I was quite prepared for him to hit the van, I leapt out with my trusty "persuader", but he managed to miss (just) and looked rather terrified as they all sped off in various directions.

Had some good descriptions and a reg No. so, after a search of the area, caught one of them and gave him a right "talking" to.

My club made a visit to the local "owners" club meeting place for that type of bike a week later and let it be known in no uncertain terms that such behaviour would not be tolerated in our "backyard".

Never happened again.
:rolleyes:

[Strider]

My club made a visit to the local "owners" club meeting place for that type of bike a week later and let it be known in no uncertain terms that such behaviour would not be tolerated in our "backyard".

Never happened again.
:rolleyes:

Thats cos you are such a nice reasonable type of bloke, with a persuasive manner, and look like a nice sort of chap who would never shout at anyone unless you really really had to :D

[Jonnyfp]

http://www.uponone.com/sortvideos-wheelies-viewed.php

5th video down the list..(Thanks to UT)

Its almost an exact recreation of an accident i saw at the waterman just down the road from Bassets pole.

In all seriousness i cannot guarantee that when i was younger and if i'd had a more powerful bike i would'nt have popped a wheelie on purpose, i did a couple of times by accident pulling out of junctions but that was on the triumph and was'nt used to a big bore bike.

[Mad Dog]

Thats cos you are such a nice reasonable type of bloke, with a persuasive manner, and look like a nice sort of chap who would never shout at anyone unless you really really had to :D

:D :D :D

[krammer]

i was at the bassetts pole that night and as usual there was a small police prescence, but due to a road traffic accident they were called away. as it was a warm spring evening there was an even bigger crowd than normal and it did'nt take long for the tiny minority of arseholes to start twatting about on their bikes. i did'nt see the crash, but i heard it and the sight i saw of absolute bedlam when i ran over to the scene of the crash will stay with me for a long time.

[Crofty]

Another person with a better bike than they are rider. Terrible that it ended in a death, When I first read the article "performing stunts" I thought it was a proper stunt bike, but obviously not. My condolences go out to Sandy's family.

[kitkatman]

Yep, and the con who does the shagging has got Aids so the twats life expectancy is nice and short when he does get out.


i hope the twat gets back on a bike and this time manages to kill just himself, 7 poxy years, serve 3 and then will most proberbly be allowed to sue her poor family for his stress, this country's law courts are too soft on w##kers like this, it really really does piss you off and make you angry!!! :mad:

[Sir Ewok]

In Northampton, guys who wanted to do wheelies, stoppies etc used to go onto the local Industrial estate on weekends. Nice straight road between two roundabouts and a quiet and intresting area to play and practice in. The only peeps there were those who wanted to be there and I went a couple of times and had a good laugh, especially when some dude miss timed his gear change and fecked up his gearbox.
The police used to turn a blind ey, but several things together put a stop to it. The first and main problem was the noise, which could be heard in a village a few miles away and I can sympathise with that, working late shift. 8 - 10 hours of howling bikes, screaming tyres and cheering crowds would do my head in as well. Secondly was the chav in his sported up car who was chasing the bikes up and down the road, sometimes only a few feet off their back wheel. One mistake and the rider would be dead. The police turned up and nicked the twat. and lastly a guy mistimed his stoppie (ie he didn't brake at all) and went through the chevrons of the roundabout. Although he had chest and arm injuries, it could have been worse. His bike was written off and he would not be covered by insurance.
Nobody except the participants were ever hurt (except for the noise as mentioned, and when the police explained to the guys about the complaints, they stopped voluntarily) but I could never condone doing it on an ordinary public road, where passers by and peeps who had not come for the show were likely to be. Obviously it was an area where non-bikers and the general public could be around at any time.
We had a death in Northampton in a similar accident, but due to illegal street car racing (as seen in American films). Mother was going mad at cops for not stopping it, but turned out she knew where her lad was going and had even given him his fare to get there. Lived in a village about 10 miles away.

[kitkatman]

http://www.uponone.com/sortvideos-wheelies-viewed.php

5th video down the list..(Thanks to UT)

Its almost an exact recreation of an accident i saw at the waterman just down the road from Bassets pole.

In all seriousness i cannot guarantee that when i was younger and if i'd had a more powerful bike i would'nt have popped a wheelie on purpose, i did a couple of times by accident pulling out of junctions but that was on the triumph and was'nt used to a big bore bike.
ooooopppppppppppppppppppssssssyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Jay]

I just want to say that I am sad this woman was injured and died, it wasn't her fault and the chap was responsible for sure.

The fact that he wasn't taxed insured or whatever is another issue but I can't condemn him for that, when times are hard I have ridden/driven without tax/ MOT and therefore insurance is void anyway. I tried riding my pushbike 23 miles to work in the rain and it was crap.

But I would think that this situation was MIGHTY unfortunate and that we all stand a far greater chance of being struck by lightening or something.

I have watched people being nuts in cars/lorries/boats and on bikes and I watched them cos they were dangerous. Even properley organised stunt shows produce casualties from time to time.

I suppose what I am trying to say is that this lady was in the wrong place at the wrong time and that I doubt very much if this guy meant to hurt anyone.

**** if this was my wife/sis/mum, I'd be lookin for justice too but if he came off because someone drove out in front of him while he was being a tit, we'd be talking differently now!

[Mad Dog]

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you here Jay.

If this guy was indeed banned from driving (for whatever offences he previously committed) and had no insurance or tax etc. then, he had absolutely no right to be on the public highway.

The above issues alone indicate the sort of moron he is.

He then takes it upon himself to acquire a bike and turn up at a meeting place where he proceeds to tear around showing off.

The lady concerned was in the Right place at the Right time. She was excersising her lawful right to walk on the pavement and admire the parked bikes and enjoy the atmosphere of a large gathering of mostly well meaning bikers. There can be absolutely no blame attributed to her or any like minded people.

This arsehole decides to ride in an uncontrolled manner at speed through this gathering.
HE was being selfish, attention seeking and had absolutely no right to be doing what he was.

Therefore I would happily thrust the long pole from a Hog Roast right up his fekkin rear end until it came out his mouth.
:mad:

[Jay]

Mad Dog

I agree he is totally responsible for the death of this Lady and a twat (like me on accasion) for making the decision to ride illegally, as such.

It just occurred to me that, and my point wasn't clear I suppose, I don't reckon he meant for one second to hurt anyone.

I certainly wasn't suggesting that this Lady was at fault for standing where she was, simply that if she wasn't stood right there at that precise second, then she wouldn't have been involved!

Reading back my post, maybe I sound like I have sympathy for the guy, I don't!

But I did want to consider both sides of the situation!

[Mad Dog]

Not having a go at you Jay,

If that lady had not been at that position, someone else would have, if he had veered slightly one way or the other it still would have been someone.

Nobody but the most hardened thug "wants" or "means" to hurt anyone,

but,

I for one, ride/drive with the consequences of my actions in mind. I also use observation and driving skills to negate or minimise the outcome of someone elses errors.

This guy's actions from the moment he got up that day are completely reprehensible, (and presumably he spends most other days in the same manner).
from the moment he put on his "riding" kit, the decision made in the full knowledge of no license or insurance etc that he would get on a motorcycle.
Riding to Bassetts Pole in the knowledge that if a kid ran out in front.....
Then, not only having got there in one piece and in whatever style of riding he did so, he then decides that this would be a good place to demonstrate his "abilities".

What makes me even more annoyed is that people like this father their own children !!!

I watched the repeat last night of the Police program from South Yorkshire where a biker on a Suzuki had been overtaking vehicles down a bypass by crossing the white line and nipping in and out around cars at speed.
Until he got into a situation where an oncoming vehicle meant he could not complete this maneuvre.
He then clipped the back of a Fiesta which was sent out of control into a lamp post.

The bike rider had been seen drinking earlier, was well over the limit, had traces of drugs in his system, and even had a new set of brake pads in his gear - the bike's brake pads were completely worn down to the metal and thereby innefective.
He was badly injured and the pillion - his new girlfriend of only a month - was killed in the accident. He was given 6.5 years inside.

Gonna need more than one Hog Roaster :cool:

[Jay]

You're right MD, no offence taken.

Trouble is that I spend too much time giving people second chances and the benefit of the doubt and sitting on the fence, trying to see both sides blah blah blah....There is a reason for that but it's personal and boring!

Cheers Jay

[Mad Dog]

I do the same up to a point.

i spend a lot of time ensuring that both sides of an argument are heard fairly, and that someone's point or reasoning is communicated fairly.

But,

in this case, the moment he took that first decision to ride illegally he had no further rights or due consideration.

Bit like the burglar breaking into my house, as soon as he/she breaks that glass and eases himself/herself in, all bets are off.
They are invading my property and taking the piss, so it is all out as far as I'm concerned - no mamby pamby "society/upbringing" made me do it - wack the b'stard I say.
;)