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pagan_flame
24-06-2009, 11:40 PM
This was written by myself and appeared as a 'Last Words' article in AWoL, Autumn 2000

As Blue is my witness... :cool:
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Everyone cannot but have noticed - and it is starting to be documented - that bikers as a breed are getting older, the average age of club members and rally goers is climbing as no new blood is coming in. Why?

I will split my views here into three as each has its' own reasons - being bikes, events and music; I am writing this after the August Bank Holiday weekend which saw me take in a pub rock disco, Rock City at Nottingham and a Classic Bike Show.

Bikes first then - when I started riding, as most of us did, we rode what we could afford, fixed/ customised/ tuned them ourselves. We dreamed of huge machines - litre+ - machines we would one day buy. As we got older and earned more money we moved up the capacity ladder until we got to our dream bikes, or maybe you're still climbing?

Today, performance, handling and braking beyond the best ever 80's Jap superbike is available off the shelf in a wide variety of shapes and sizes, and reliability comes with it fitted as standard for 99 quid down and convenient monthly payments, suits you sir. Who wants to spend months building a streetfighter when you can have a Bandit 12 instead?

Buying a big bike is no longer a prerequisite to going fast - and the new blood we are seeking is buying the modern 600's as they will thrash a GSX / GPz / XS 11 in every department except one - acceptability.

In a conversation with a teenaged lad at Rock City this weekend (more of that below) he said he was doing his test and was looking at either a CBR 600 or a Hornet, which would be the best one to buy to fit in? That young people are worried that they will be ignored or looked down on at a club or event due to their ride is a worrying discovery.

I was in various local clubs for around 7 years and in the end walked away from it all as it had nothing left to offer me - but every club of that ilk has at least one who looks down upon people who have less rally badges than him.

I have also had that attitude from people who were at junior school when I did my first rally - the 'new blood' of biking - who are copying their elders for the most part. So it is no wonder that young people considering the biker lifestyle go elsewhere; It is bad enough to get through your multistage test now without having to follow rules from someone old enough to be your father - the last thing you are looking to do when in your late teens / early 20's.

Which takes us nicely on to events - attendances down across the board and why? As everyone is older and has wives and kids, they just come down for the Saturday night - so now you know why the numbers on Saturday night bear no relation to the number of tents in the field.

Young people are not coming for a very simple reason - we have nothing to offer them, in the main. Some of the larger events are waking up but the 'disco on Friday, rally games / bike show / rock covers band / raffle on Saturday' formula is still the norm - this hasn't changed since I started rallying 15 years ago.

Rock festivals now are no longer limited to the stage and a beer tent - popular add-ons include Internet café's, Skateboard ramps, Playstation tents...and they take the people we are looking to attract away from us.

And while we're on the subject - the Internet. This can be nicely summed up by two versions of the same question I am commonly asked at biking gigs with our band, Slingshot. Older persons ask "Have you got a flyer with some info?". Younger persons ask "Have you got a website?".

We do have a website and don't have paper flyers - but when this is imparted to the older petitioner approximately 70% aren't online and don't want to be. To the younger people, not being online is as alien to them as being without a bike is to us.

We find our weekend party venues in magazines - they find theirs on the 'Net or via mobile phones. The chap at Rock City mentioned earlier tapped me on the shoulder for one reason - for my sins I was wearing a Bikersweb t-shirt and he had clocked the web address on the back, asked me what was on the site. Now I am pretty confident that without the w3 & .co.uk bits either side of it he would have walked past oblivious.

Clubs are starting to get online as they usually have one member clued up enough to get it together - but once again usually nothing to catch a young person's attention, just the usual "This is us, our bikes and us pissed at a rally". It's not enough.

Music. Slingshot is one of the aforementioned rock covers band - and as such should have a sell-by date. In pubs this is rapidly approaching as we run out of local pubs who book rock bands - but biker gigs just get bigger all the time. Now we play a wide variety of music including 90's stuff, but once again this is the exception. The rule is still the bog standard covers or blues band for a rally, with one of the club members doing a rock disco of sorts. If I had a quid for every time I've heard a band do "Paranoid" at a rally I'd be shopping for a gold-plated Hayabusa.

Bulldog this year got in on it - Kill II This, Therapy?, Fun Lovin' Criminals up there as headliners - and drew in younger punters because of it, but so far they are in isolation.

Again not enough. Think you can relate to the younger audience cos' you know the words to "Enter Sandman"? Wake up, Metallica's black album was recorded 9 YEARS AGO. Take a look at your record collection. What, you've got one? Most young people don't even own a turntable. Got any Fear Factory, Static X, Slipknot?

On Friday I took my classic rock disco out to a local pub and had a handful of 30 somethings requesting Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Def Leppard et al. Saturday at Rock City we were queuing to get in and feeling very old when we did due to the overwhelmingly teenaged persons inside. And all because of the music being played.

The rave tent is now a staple at the larger events - who are starting to draw in the younger punters. The older bikers moan about it but they are packed out when the bands finish. Drum and Bass kicks like metal never did - with my rock disco I play metal all night but it is always 'Firestarter' that takes out my speaker cones...

To quote a Thin Lizzy song -'What fate the future holds? It ain't pretty...' What we are looking at here is plain and simple extinction. Currently it is recoverable but natural wastage of the "marriage / house / baby forces sale" variety coupled to young persons going elsewhere is going to change 30-somethings trying to appeal to teenagers into 40 and 50-somethings before you know it. Who are going to have NO chance. Do you get down and party hard with YOUR grandparents?

So, let us choose a model for our salvation; Cher. Now I'm not exhorting us all to have plastic surgery and prance around in body stockings (although some bikers already do) - but how does a 54 year old singer score platinum album and single sales worldwide in the late 90's? Answer: Reinvention.

Cher took a long hard look at the rock ballads, turned her back on them and went into the studio with some trendy young things and turned out the "Believe" album. Some of her older fans went 'Urrgh' but she is still touring 2 years later on the strength of the sales.

We have to do the same - we have to tap into what the new generation want, integrate this with the current fare - like Bulldog this year - how difficult would it be to bring a club members' kids' Playstation along for the weekend? There are endless teenaged bands out there who have a peer following and can be booked to play for pocket money.

Or we can just simply pat each other on the back about how great things are without all this modern rubbish and sit back and watch our numbers dwindle away until we are a sufficiently easy target to be legislated out of existence.

Your choice.

pagan_flame
24-06-2009, 11:49 PM
Commentary 2009:

--- We do have more websites now - but we are, NOW, the 40-50 year olds as predicted.

--- Slingshot (the band) split in 2005; Now I am once again playing biker gigs regularly with the mobile roadshow, I notice that bands are STILL of the usual variety, in the main (= cover versions 15+ years old).

--- Cher has also played her farewell tour. 3 years long, it finished in 2005, after 325 concerts at the Hollywood Bowl, putting $250 million in her bank account... :thumbu:

rob
30-06-2009, 12:39 PM
had this same convo at the weekend.
lack of youngsters at rallies etc.

it's the music, pure and simple.

same 'ol same 'ol cock rock covers n 'blues'.

in the early 80's when i started rallying we'd watch the hamsters, the brothers grimm, bands doing covers of contemporary 'metal'....

nearly 30 years later, and they're still playing the same old shite.

covers of maiden, dio, saxon, sabbath etc, etc.

and don't even mention mustang fukkin' sally.

and who's in the 'rock' tent?? middle-aged blokes re-living their youth, word perfect on badly covered drivel. still headbanging, abiet a bit shakily, arm upstretched, thumb, index and little fingers raised.....
every year there's less of 'em..... like the church of england on a sunday morning......

absolutely NO relevance with todays next generation of bikers.

me??

i'm in the dance tent. :thumbsu:

womble
30-06-2009, 02:20 PM
I see you are still re inventing yourself then

Hillbilly Deluxe
30-06-2009, 02:26 PM
Whats wrong with being middle aged ?
whats wrong with liking classic rock ?
maybe,the blokes re-living their youth are'nt,maybe some are,who really gives a shit ?
maybe you could hold your own rally ? no-one over 30 allowed,no rock music allowed ? best of luck.

Simon B
30-06-2009, 03:34 PM
Whats wrong with being middle aged ?
whats wrong with liking classic rock ?
maybe,the blokes re-living their youth are'nt,maybe some are,who really gives a shit ?
maybe you could hold your own rally ? no-one over 30 allowed,no rock music allowed ? best of luck.

A bloody good point
Went to Alba west on the weekend, they had a couple celtic drum n bagpipe groups who went down a storm, one punk covers band who went down a storm and the rest where doing classic covers that also went down a storm


Oh yeah a fair few youngstres there an all.


Face it most kids that are into rock now drive cars n go to festivals, not bike rallies,

Grav
30-06-2009, 04:52 PM
Whats wrong with being middle aged ?

Nowt.
whats wrong with liking classic rock ?

That's a Nowt again.

maybe,the blokes re-living their youth are'nt,maybe some are,who really gives a shit ?

Maybe some of us refuse to grow up.....

maybe you could hold your own rally ? no-one over 30 allowed,no rock music allowed ? best of luck.

Been there....done that.... :D

rob
30-06-2009, 05:14 PM
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rob
30-06-2009, 05:15 PM
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droid
30-06-2009, 05:23 PM
Whats wrong with being middle aged ?
whats wrong with liking classic rock ?
maybe,the blokes re-living their youth are'nt,maybe some are,who really gives a shit ?
maybe you could hold your own rally ? no-one over 30 allowed,no rock music allowed ? best of luck.

It's only a problem to those that make their money from rallies.

If declining numbers means I can sit in a beer tent and have a conversation and actually hear what's said, then bring it on.

I'd welcome some traditional rallies....no cars under any circumstances would be a major improvement to most rallies.

Grav
30-06-2009, 05:33 PM
I agree with Rob.

droid
30-06-2009, 06:10 PM
Buggered if I'm standing in a Dance tent all night just to prove I'm not an old fossil.

Cos I am, and proud of it:D

Hillbilly Deluxe
30-06-2009, 06:42 PM
No cars ! how would i trailer my Harley there :mad::D

droid
30-06-2009, 06:52 PM
No cars ! how would i trailer my Harley there :mad::D

Use a trike?

:D

womble
30-06-2009, 07:27 PM
Taf as i know him has been giving out the same ideas for years

& has re invented himself every couple of years too.