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Gypsy
20-01-2005, 11:10 AM
Troubled liner limps back to port

Passengers have paid up to £42,000 for the P&O cruise
The troubled luxury liner Aurora is returning to England after P&O cancelled its ill-fated world cruise.
The ship has turned back to Southampton after repairs to the propulsion motor proved unsuccessful, the company said.

The £200m liner had left the port on Wednesday night to undergo tests and finally set sail after a 10-day delay.

Aurora is expected to be back in Southampton by midnight on Thursday and the passengers will disembark on Friday morning.

Grav
20-01-2005, 03:08 PM
Bloody French cant build a ship to save their lives. :rolleyes:

They even fecked up on the Queen Mary 2..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

BlackPig
20-01-2005, 03:10 PM
That would explain why they get there own ships built in Holland :D :rolleyes:

Huw Beer Monster
20-01-2005, 03:31 PM
Ummmm...

I thought this particular ship was built in Germany.

krammer
20-01-2005, 03:35 PM
there just does'nt seem to be any pride in this country, when contracts are handed to the french to build prestigious cruise liners. how could the french beat tenders from the uk? christ they must have the shortest working week in europe! how can their overheads be lower than uk shipbuilders? i dunno... it just sucks :(

slugonamission
20-01-2005, 08:39 PM
but look at our wings on the new airbus :)

sprintbint
20-01-2005, 08:41 PM
Mind you they had a lovely trip to the Isle of Wight...

Miss Demeanour
20-01-2005, 08:46 PM
[QUOTE=Gypsy]

Passengers have paid up to £42,000 for the P&O cruise
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Only marginally less than the IoW ferry then...

Mitch
20-01-2005, 10:17 PM
Mrs R says:
What nutter with more money than sense would pay that much for a cruise????
I can think of 100's of ways more gratifying to spend £42,000, bikes, doing up the house, generally running amok! :eek:

Doro
21-01-2005, 08:38 AM
HUW


I thought that as well


time for a google check


Germans are damn good engineers, like the scots and the geordies


hee hee lets all generalise


anyway it was obviously jinxed when the bottle failed to break, had that nasty bug on one of it's voyages

time to re-name and re-launch it, after they've had the voodoo doctor in to lift the curse............

Doro
21-01-2005, 08:44 AM
from the P&O Cruises website...


built by


Meyer Werft Shipyard, Germany

:D


I think the French just launched her, which was what has caused the jinx, which doesn't fare well for the new giant airbus


which I am 100% against due to the effect on the environment, global warming etc, even though I like flying, and flying abroad, we should be doing it less wif smaller planes that use less fuel, or go by road, boat or train

last thing we should do is build giant planes to use more fuel

not that any of us could ever afford to go in it, like concorde

but at least concorde had class..!! :o

mr.chaz
21-01-2005, 08:53 AM
Did anyone see the documentary about the building of her?
Absolute amazing piece of engineering - it's a real shame that it's had such a bad run of luck.
If I had excessive amounts of money spare , I would love to cruise around the world on such a ship. Unfortunately my missus hates boats and boaters , so it'd have to be after her untimely passing. :eek:

Jay
21-01-2005, 09:06 AM
there just does'nt seem to be any pride in this country, when contracts are handed to the french to build prestigious cruise liners. how could the french beat tenders from the uk? christ they must have the shortest working week in europe! how can their overheads be lower than uk shipbuilders? i dunno... it just sucks :(

The French DON'T have to budget in another 50% to cover the cost of stuff knicked off site mate, thats the difference. :D

BlackPig
21-01-2005, 09:06 AM
I think the French just launched her, which was what has caused the jinx, which doesn't fare well for the new giant airbus


which I am 100% against due to the effect on the environment, global warming etc, even though I like flying, and flying abroad, we should be doing it less wif smaller planes that use less fuel, or go by road, boat or train

last thing we should do is build giant planes to use more fuel

not that any of us could ever afford to go in it, like concorde

but at least concorde had class..!! :o


Erm,I don't wish to start but, the whole airbus idea is to carry more using less fuel,is it not ? :confused:
One big plane carryin' lots will surely burn less fuel than several smaller ones carryin' the same,no ? :confused:

Gypsy
21-01-2005, 09:11 AM
the new airbus uses 11000 more gallons of fuel to go about 400 miles less than the 747

Jay
21-01-2005, 09:12 AM
Yeah but how much more does it carry?

Doro
21-01-2005, 09:14 AM
well blackpig you'd think that would be the case

but these big planes are hard to fill

it would only work out like that if it only flew when full.

also it's 25% LESS efficient than the other big planes, but it doesn't carry 25% more people

I reckon we are going to run out of fossil fuels in less than 30 years, and 10 years from now the supply is going to be greatly reduced. We've gone way past the time where we shoud be actively encouraging the use of alternatives, one day we're all going to have to change our way of living, unfortunately we've already left it too late :(

(I have researched this, it's not a guess, more an informed prediction, like weather forcasting)


trouble is scientists know all this, but governments are hiding it

like mobile phone dangers (another controversial subject)

Gypsy
21-01-2005, 09:14 AM
dont quote me on this but i think it was about 555 peeps compared to about 470 :D

Jay
21-01-2005, 09:15 AM
Yeah but they might be really big, really heavy people with lots and lots of bags? :o

Doro
21-01-2005, 09:15 AM
and they don't even know if it can fly, apparently it has never been in the air yet



so far it's been one big publicity stunt for Britain and French governments

Gypsy
21-01-2005, 09:17 AM
there is another new plane in the making which will travel between any 2 airports, which they consider will save somewhere in the region of 20% of their total fuel usage due to not having to make detours to refuel and also not having to go thro all the malarky of sitting on runways for 2 hrs waiting for slots

Doro
21-01-2005, 09:18 AM
and it's a lot smaller



doro and gypsy......discussers of planes and boats :D

Jay
21-01-2005, 09:21 AM
interesting tell me, I have an old sopwith camel I was thinking of firing up.

If I load two adults who both weigh 150 llbs and are carrying 3 bags of 43.75 kilos, travelling 66 knots with a headwind of 4.22 mph, in opposite directions.........will I look witty?

Gypsy
21-01-2005, 09:25 AM
sorry you have missed your slot . . .please get to the back of the q and wait :D

Doro
21-01-2005, 09:30 AM
dont quote me on this but i think it was about 555 peeps compared to about 470 :D


apparently the plane is capable of carrying 800 passengers, but only if they're crammed in like cattle, so no leg room or bar or cinema or 1st class cabins..!!

biggest problem will be getting it to fit into airports. It is at the absolute maximum of the allowed size by the air traffic laws.

Gypsy
21-01-2005, 09:32 AM
there was some problem too about the fact there are only a few terminals able to take the airbus and that they are having to rebuild some of them :D

Jay
21-01-2005, 09:33 AM
point taken, I'll shut me trap......slam

Doro
21-01-2005, 09:36 AM
hey Jay chill man


here, look, you can buy yourself one on ebay :D :D


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=419&item=6506344259&rd=1

Doro
21-01-2005, 09:37 AM
besides your maths problem was far too difficult for my blonde hair to cope wif *grin*


:cool:

Jay
21-01-2005, 09:50 AM
hey Jay chill man


here, look, you can buy yourself one on ebay :D :D


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=419&item=6506344259&rd=1

Hey I might not know much mate but I can tell you something, that is NO sopwith camel! ;)

Gypsy
21-01-2005, 09:53 AM
heres one for ya

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19011&item=5950493877&rd=1


:D

Jay
21-01-2005, 10:08 AM
You're a very resourceful type of bloke........ :D

Doro
21-01-2005, 10:09 AM
gawd I thort he was talking about a real camel




*shamed*

Gypsy
21-01-2005, 10:11 AM
so you should be .. hang your head :D

krammer
21-01-2005, 10:55 AM
dont quote me on this but i think it was about 555 peeps compared to about 470 :D when push comes to shove (no pun intended) the whole thing will be about squeezing as many bods onto the aircraft as possible. there might be a few flagship carriers that have got the bars and restaurants etc but i think in the more densely populated parts of the world there will be a lot more than 500 on board. airbus have said it has the potential to carry nearly 9 hundred people in 'economy' class :eek:

Jay
21-01-2005, 10:56 AM
when push comes to shove (no pun intended) the whole thing will be about squeezing as many bods onto the aircraft as possible. there might be a few flagship carriers that have got the bars and restaurants etc but i think in the more densely populated parts of the world there will be a lot more than 500 on board. airbus have said it has the potential to carry nearly 9 hundred people in 'economy' class :eek:

Busy at work then mate! :D Bloody government officials......

krammer
21-01-2005, 11:06 AM
Busy at work then mate! :D Bloody government officials...... bollocks ya cheeky git! i will have you know i am actually on a days holiday :D

Jay
21-01-2005, 11:08 AM
bollocks ya cheeky git! i will have you know i am actually on a days holiday :D

Oh yeah mate, on double time no doubt ;)

krammer
21-01-2005, 11:12 AM
Oh yeah mate, on double time no doubt ;) how dare you! are you saying i am being economical with the truth old chap? :p

Jay
21-01-2005, 11:16 AM
Not me gov, I'm in no position to take the moral high ground there....But isn't it true that you guys get double time when you're on holiday and only time and half on a normal working day? :p

krammer
21-01-2005, 11:21 AM
Not me gov, I'm in no position to take the moral high ground there....But isn't it true that you guys get double time when you're on holiday and only time and half on a normal working day? :p i've just about had enough of this! look, heres my holiday card and on it clearly written it says 2 days booked off, fri 21st jan and mon 24th of jan. there in black and white (well blue on green) i will of course be expecting a full apology or you will be hearing from my briefs :eek:

Gypsy
21-01-2005, 11:29 AM
hes gonna send ya his stained pants !!! :eek:

Tim1400
21-01-2005, 11:31 AM
i've just about had enough of this! look, heres my holiday card and on it clearly written it says 2 days booked off, fri 21st jan and mon 24th of jan. Whats this,a council worker booking a Friday and Monday off I thought that what the sick was for :D

krammer
21-01-2005, 11:33 AM
Whats this,a council worker booking a Friday and Monday off I thought that what the sick was for :D ....said the council worker!

Jay
21-01-2005, 11:34 AM
Sorry....SORRY please don't send your pants to my house..............again.

Sir Ewok
21-01-2005, 11:36 AM
The French DON'T have to budget in another 50% to cover the cost of stuff knicked off site mate, thats the difference. :D

Bollox, course they do, what they don't have to budget for is all the stupid EU laws that we obey to the letter and they choose to ignore....

Tim1400
21-01-2005, 11:36 AM
OH NO IVE BEEN FOUND OUT(skiving on a Friday :D )

Jay
21-01-2005, 11:41 AM
Bollox, course they do, what they don't have to budget for is all the stupid EU laws that we obey to the letter and they choose to ignore....

Could I prime you for an example young sir?

Sir Ewok
21-01-2005, 11:54 AM
Can't give you a direct example regarding ship fitting, but as we all know the Europeans decide which laws they will follow and which they will ignore, like buying british beef or burning our lamb and Spanish fishing fleets ignoring fishery laws.
However I would agree that we price ourselves out of the market, but I should think that it has nothing to do with theft....

Jay
21-01-2005, 12:00 PM
Can't give you a direct example regarding ship fitting, but as we all know the Europeans decide which laws they will follow and which they will ignore, like buying british beef or burning our lamb and Spanish fishing fleets ignoring fishery laws.
However I would agree that we price ourselves out of the market, but I should think that it has nothing to do with theft....

Sounds like you're being serious on this one Sir E......no place for a pisstaking tart like me here then.....

Except for one thing, we need the French to continue being bastids so we have a reasonable case for disliking them?

Well that and another thing, was our price quoted in £'s or Euro's?