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pale rider
23-08-2008, 07:56 AM
so a club member is dateing a club member,thay fall out,and the bird starts dateing another club member,fall outs start,people take sides,i say she should leave the club,all the women turn on me saying why should she leave,he should leave,i say shes the one dateing some one else,sort of rubbing his face in it.i get pissed off and leave,who do you think should have gone.

chazz
23-08-2008, 08:00 AM
so a club member is dateing a club member,thay fall out,and the bird starts dateing another club member,fall outs start,people take sides,i say she should leave the club,all the women turn on me saying why should she leave,he should leave,i say shes the one dateing some one else,sort of rubbing his face in it.i get pissed off and leave,who do you think should have gone.

whose been there the longest,first in last out,plus who does most for the club,him or her

firkin hell
23-08-2008, 08:21 AM
so a club member is dateing a club member,thay fall out,and the bird starts dateing another club member,fall outs start,people take sides,i say she should leave the club,all the women turn on me saying why should she leave,he should leave,i say shes the one dateing some one else,sort of rubbing his face in it.i get pissed off and leave,who do you think should have gone.

Joined a club that we only met up with at rallies , wife fell for one of the other members , everyone knew about it apart from me , they even put me in the food tent for a 3 hour stint late 1 night at their rally so they could spend time together , major internal fallout within the club , left the club , left the marriage . Club folded after the rally because of people taking sides

shaggy696969
23-08-2008, 08:35 AM
Why should anyone leave, they not together anymore so thats it get over it, and if either cant handle seeing the other getting on with life thats their tough luck. I still get on with my Ex's because they are that I moved on no hard feelings tata, no problems. Fail to see why ill feeling should be involved, even if its a bad split get over it draw a line under it and move on, life is too short to be feeling bad and grumpy over crap like that.

zeddman
23-08-2008, 08:48 AM
so a club member is dateing a club member,thay fall out,and the bird starts dateing another club member,fall outs start,people take sides,i say she should leave the club,all the women turn on me saying why should she leave,he should leave,i say shes the one dateing some one else,sort of rubbing his face in it.i get pissed off and leave,who do you think should have gone.

Well for a start I would say that this is a 'domestic' issue between individuals which isnt the club or the members buisness.......unless it affects the club directly .......... thats the theory anyway but dont take my word for cos all this just reminds me why i dont bother being in a club

Mistress Maker
23-08-2008, 08:56 AM
Why should anyone leave, they not together anymore so thats it get over it, and if either cant handle seeing the other getting on with life thats their tough luck. I still get on with my Ex's because they are that I moved on no hard feelings tata, no problems. Fail to see why ill feeling should be involved, even if its a bad split get over it draw a line under it and move on, life is too short to be feeling bad and grumpy over crap like that.

I have the same sentiment as you Shaggy ..........move on ,get over it , live your life .But some folk can,t/won,t do that , it,s been over 6 years since I finally got rid on my ex (couldnt put up with his philandering any more ) and he STILL slags me off to anyone who he talks to .......including our daughter ! The way I see it it,s up to him if he wants to go on like that but when folks do that they involve other people and it can cause problems .I just avoid him if I can (specially at rallies etc ) but if your socialising with them in a group it would be difficult .

shaggy696969
23-08-2008, 09:03 AM
A woman can cut a man down in seconds (performance related) and thats only got to happen a couple of times im sure he will wind his neck in. No need for silly crap. But if people cant handle seeing the other half getting on with life then they should stay away until they can, then im sure they will realise that if the club means that much to them they wont stay away long and sort themselves out.

lowrider
23-08-2008, 09:56 AM
Happened in our club,sort off.
Member dating someone then that "someones" ex joins our club.:rolleyes:
I told both,deal with it if you don't like it leave.
What do you expec a pub to bar someone that is an ex.:confused:

Born2bVile
23-08-2008, 10:38 AM
What do you expec a pub to bar someone that is an ex.:confused:

Worked for me :D

Sir Ewok
23-08-2008, 10:57 AM
Divorced twice got on with both ex wives. I fell in love with them, nothing changed with them, just our relationship. It took a long time to get over the first as we were together for 20 years or so and married for 17 of them. I suppose she just got tired of being married to a biker and left with my best mate (and I still miss him, had to do it before anyone else did:unsure:). It was hard at first seeing them happy together, especially as we worked together. The company wanted to sack him as they felt it might lead to conflict or violence at work!! I told them that if they sacked him I would go to a tribunal as a witness for his unfair dismissal. They didn't know what to do about it but their problem was resolved when they sacked me for fraud, but that's another story:unsure:.

Second wife said one day 'This isn't working' and sadly I had to agree. We married for the wrong reasons. She had not long lost her mother and I was in the terrible position of having to do CPR on my own father (though I new he'd gone but what do you do with your Mum there). We both needed some human warmth and comfort and when the need was gone, so was the marriage. Still bump into her now and again and we chat and catch up with family gossip.

If problems happen as related in previous posts then ban both till one or both can behave correctly in line with club rules ie. No biting, no scratching and no punching below the belt:eek:.

rob
23-08-2008, 11:19 AM
wtf is a woman doing in a bike club anyway?? probably why 'real' clubs don't let 'em in......


















cue feminists.......................

Urban Terrorist
23-08-2008, 11:27 AM
wtf is a woman doing in a bike club anyway?? probably why 'real' clubs don't let 'em in......



cue feminists.......................

I was gonna say the same thing. Although my wife is also in the club with me, I know she ain't gonna run off with anyone else, and all the other women in the club are wth their partners and have been for a very long time, and seeing as I'm the best lookng one, no ones leaving anyone!!!:thumbsu:

bird
23-08-2008, 12:33 PM
If a club can't survive the internal domestic machinations of three of its members, Its not much of a bloody club in the first place....

Juke
23-08-2008, 02:00 PM
[QUOTE=rob;531907]wtf is a woman doing in a bike club anyway?? probably why 'real' clubs don't let 'em in......
QUOTE]

This was my first thought too Rob, and I guess this is why the major clubs don't have female members. 'Too much of a distraction' is what I was told once.
When I was in club, if any member was caught 'getting it on' with another members spouse, they were kicked out of the club with a swift twatting to be going on with. We called it disrespect.
I certainly don't think you should have left Pale Rider, sounds like you were on the right side of the fence, but hey, maybe you did the right thing in the end eh?

Borg
23-08-2008, 02:22 PM
Find a better club

Blue38
23-08-2008, 02:36 PM
Find a better club

Concur:thumbu:

It was feck all to do with the club,end of.:mad:

booie2
23-08-2008, 02:45 PM
My first thought was the same as Robs and Jukes.

I dont have alot of experiences i got to say with clubs with women in, most of mates are in men only's, but the experiences i have had has always resulted in bickering, arguing and fallen out with others members wives making shit atmosphere.

But as much as i hate to say this.............



arggghhhhhh,...... i agree with Borg...............


ouch ouch ouch.....lol

Grav
23-08-2008, 03:10 PM
Has someone been tampering with Booie's posts whilst I wasn't looking, or has she just genuinely agreed with Borg?:D

Blue38
23-08-2008, 03:16 PM
Has someone been tampering with Booie's posts whilst I wasn't looking, or has she just genuinely agreed with Borg?:D

don't worry,it's probably the hangover:D

Sir Ewok
23-08-2008, 11:48 PM
What's a 'real' bike club or do unreal bike clubs ride imaginary bikes, surely any club run for and by bikers (male and/or female) is by definition a bike club (Unless their main interest is knitting or something). The older I get, the more confused I get. If you rode a bike, you were a biker and if you rode a scooter yo were a scumsucking, know nothing, usless piece of shite when I was a lad.....:rolleyes:

The great Mods & Rockers war is over fortunately but others still rage within the winning side (The Mods officially capitulated on Lunaberg Heath in 1969).:unsure:

Blue38
24-08-2008, 03:27 PM
What's a 'real' bike club or do unreal bike clubs ride imaginary bikes, surely any club run for and by bikers (male and/or female) is by definition a bike club (Unless their main interest is knitting or something). The older I get, the more confused I get. If you rode a bike, you were a biker and if you rode a scooter yo were a scumsucking, know nothing, usless piece of shite when I was a lad.....:rolleyes:

The great Mods & Rockers war is over fortunately but others still rage within the winning side (The Mods officially capitulated on Lunaberg Heath in 1969).:unsure:

I know "bike clubs" who's main interest is the drugs they take,not riding their bikes. Do see their vans about a lot. Does this mean they're drug clubs? lol

jimmymoonlite
24-08-2008, 08:04 PM
Wot fettl all.................now then, "real clubs" as my biker bro referred to.....

I am side patch, proud to be so, served my time, earned my colours.
My club has female members.................my club has female OFFICERS, and I have no problem with that, none at all, all my club officers have my utmost respect and on a personal level have my highest regard.

The female officers in my club are among some of the hardest working people I know for my biker family and in my humble opinion my club is all the richer for their involvement. The female officers work tirelessly for our chosen charities all year long with no thought of reward, they do it for the family. If it was'nt for our female members and female officers our annual HEX RATED RALLY would be that so much harder to organise.

Sure we have had our problems, all families do. I would suggest that we bikers and I the use the term in its asexual sense to try and make my point, are to some degree dysfunctional and it that fact which draws us together in a family of like minded souls who form a club of like minded, albeit somewhat dysfunctional individuals to form a whole.

My club is non political, non judgemental and have had relationships of both male and female gender which have run their course with a subsequent parting of the ways by individuals who have either remained in the club or left to pursue other things.

Certainly some damage has been done, but the club as a family has dealt with it and are still here, still a family and still united as a family.

If trouble arises, we sort it............as a family.............sure members have handed in their colours, members have been visited by our Sgnt at Arms and their colours returned but it is sorted ....by the family.....

We are all individuals, we all have our own views and take on things and we often disagree but we have one thing common, whilst we might not necessarily agree with the statements of our brother or sista we will uphold their right to voice them and that is what families do in my humble opinion.

I have only ever found such cameraderie and dare I say it, LOVE, in one other environment and that was when I was in uniform.

Sure my club is'nt perfect and it it had been on my arrival, it would'nt be with me as a brother in it...............now do you see what I mean?? do you get the picture?? But my club welcomed me as a brother same as they welcome partners of serving brothers or sisters when they have hung about, been a prospect and been awarded their colours...........likewise my club, my family will handle any falling out by dealing with it..... in the family.

If a bro or sista disrespects the club or brings the club into disrepute with other clubs within the T.V.C. or outside, then they SHOULD leave the club as they have lost the right to wear the colours and our Sgnt at Arms will ensure club rules and club discipl;ine is enforced.

Its all about family, all about loyalty, brother or sister, we are ALL bikers...

I could take exception with comments on female members and "real clubs" but hell, life is too short and yep, I've heard it all before even closer to home than on this forum. We can rise above it, and we do................and we are still here, still united, still a club, dynamic, growing, driving forward and still, still a family, dysfunctional possibly, but still a family.

You all mind how you go now...................

Oh my club??

CALDARIUM MCC - OXFORD ....a biker family and club of the loveliest outgoing and giving people you are ever likely to meet.

Come and see for yourselves...............we meet fortnightly on a friday evening at the LORD NUFFIELD SOCIAL CLUB, OXFORD.

EverReady:thumbu:

booie2
24-08-2008, 09:07 PM
Wot fettl all.................now then, "real clubs" as my biker bro referred to.....

I am side patch, proud to be so, served my time, earned my colours.
My club has female members.................my club has female OFFICERS, and I have no problem with that, none at all, all my club officers have my utmost respect and on a personal level have my highest regard.

The female officers in my club are among some of the hardest working people I know for my biker family and in my humble opinion my club is all the richer for their involvement. The female officers work tirelessly for our chosen charities all year long with no thought of reward, they do it for the family. If it was'nt for our female members and female officers our annual HEX RATED RALLY would be that so much harder to organise.

Sure we have had our problems, all families do. I would suggest that we bikers and I the use the term in its asexual sense to try and make my point, are to some degree dysfunctional and it that fact which draws us together in a family of like minded souls who form a club of like minded, albeit somewhat dysfunctional individuals to form a whole.

My club is non political, non judgemental and have had relationships of both male and female gender which have run their course with a subsequent parting of the ways by individuals who have either remained in the club or left to pursue other things.

Certainly some damage has been done, but the club as a family has dealt with it and are still here, still a family and still united as a family.

If trouble arises, we sort it............as a family.............sure members have handed in their colours, members have been visited by our Sgnt at Arms and their colours returned but it is sorted ....by the family.....

We are all individuals, we all have our own views and take on things and we often disagree but we have one thing common, whilst we might not necessarily agree with the statements of our brother or sista we will uphold their right to voice them and that is what families do in my humble opinion.

I have only ever found such cameraderie and dare I say it, LOVE, in one other environment and that was when I was in uniform.

Sure my club is'nt perfect and it it had been on my arrival, it would'nt be with me as a brother in it...............now do you see what I mean?? do you get the picture?? But my club welcomed me as a brother same as they welcome partners of serving brothers or sisters when they have hung about, been a prospect and been awarded their colours...........likewise my club, my family will handle any falling out by dealing with it..... in the family.

If a bro or sista disrespects the club or brings the club into disrepute with other clubs within the T.V.C. or outside, then they SHOULD leave the club as they have lost the right to wear the colours and our Sgnt at Arms will ensure club rules and club discipl;ine is enforced.

Its all about family, all about loyalty, brother or sister, we are ALL bikers...

I could take exception with comments on female members and "real clubs" but hell, life is too short and yep, I've heard it all before even closer to home than on this forum. We can rise above it, and we do................and we are still here, still united, still a club, dynamic, growing, driving forward and still, still a family, dysfunctional possibly, but still a family.

You all mind how you go now...................

Oh my club??

CALDARIUM MCC - OXFORD ....a biker family and club of the loveliest outgoing and giving people you are ever likely to meet.

Come and see for yourselves...............we meet fortnightly on a friday evening at the LORD NUFFIELD SOCIAL CLUB, OXFORD.

EverReady:thumbu:


I might do that next tme i'm up visiting my old haunting ground.
i'll drop you a pm when i'm up that way next.

slob
24-08-2008, 09:09 PM
Just lately i've been having this nagging feeling about joining a club... tbh I have enough complication in my life without having put up with all this sort of bollocks.

Reckon i'll stay on my own until either i'm more tolerant or life is less complicated. Doesn't paint a pretty picture of club life to me I thought the whole point was everyone backed each other, more-over they have enough respect for each other not to pinch birds (or blokes) depending on who's to blame.

pale rider, sounds like you are best off out of it.

Shifty
24-08-2008, 09:12 PM
I'd say that's a pretty common-sense way to look at it, Jimmy.

I do think I understand why some clubs are single-sex; as had been said, tensions do sometimes arise due to the fact of a club being mixed-sex - I've seen it before meself. For some clubs, the single-sex thing works best, with good reason. For others, mixed is the way to go.

And Jimmy, if I'm ever down that neck of the woods on me bike on a Friday night, I'll drop in for a jar.

Shifty
24-08-2008, 09:14 PM
I thought the whole point was everyone backed each other, more-over they have enough respect for each other not to pinch birds (or blokes) depending on who's to blame.




Couldn't agree more with this either. There's certain things you don't do if you've got the right morals.

Shep
24-08-2008, 09:15 PM
who do you think should have gone.

Whoever wimps out first.
If something (club, principal, idea) is worth standing up for, then you make the other fellow/person blink first.


'Course that sorta thing can be a bit worse when a wife goes off with the member of another club.:eek: (And serve him bloody right!)

rob
25-08-2008, 09:01 AM
no disrespect intended to you, or your club, but....
I am side patch, proud to be so, served my time, earned my colours.
My club has female members.................my club has female OFFICERS,
My club is non political,
members have been visited by our Sgnt at Arms
a prospect and been awarded their colours
If a bro or sista
the right to wear the colours
our Sgnt at Arms will ensure club rules and club discipline is enforced.

ok, call me simple, or out of touch, but your club is an MCC? i.e. a rally or party club?


Oh my club??

CALDARIUM MCC - OXFORD ....a biker family and club of the loveliest outgoing and giving people you are ever likely to meet.
Come and see for yourselves.
i have no reason to doubt that, just slightly confused is all.

jimmymoonlite
25-08-2008, 02:38 PM
no disrespect intended to you, or your club, but....


ok, call me simple, or out of touch, but your club is an MCC? i.e. a rally or party club?


i have no reason to doubt that, just slightly confused is all.

Wot fettl Rob...................hey bro, no disrespect or umbrage taken man, after all we are ALL I hope singing from the same hymn sheet when we view ourselves, that is, we are all bikers, all brothers and sisters and if we take the broadest possible view, all part of that bigger family.

CALDARIUM MCC - are we are a rally club? yep we attend rallies, are we a party club? yep we like to party but we go beyond that in that at the heart of our club we are fundamentally part of the biker community within the THAMES VALLEY COALITION (T.V.C.) with a driving desire to uphold our spirit of freedom and give support to our brothers and sisters both within and beyond our club be they back patch or side patch. The club certainly at its heart is all about upholding biker freedoms and maintenance of lifestyle. We are certainly a mixed bunch anyway but I know that if I am in trouble I only have to make a phonecall and my bros will come a running to assist and support.
We help each other but hold out the hand of friendship and give respect to all deemed worthy.

Our Sgnt at Arms BONEHEAD who you may or may not have come across in a field somewhere supports wholeheartedly the T.V.C. as do we all and the club will turn out as many as possible to support T.V.C. events and a number of brothers will always be at T.V.C. meetings.Bonehead maintains a constant profile within the T.V.C. and I do believe that the support and respect is mutual. CALDARIUM MCC works very hard all year round in support of our charities and our HEX RATED RALLY (now in its 7th year I think) is a firm fixture on the rally calender, known to be a good rally and always (thus far anyway) well attended.

I have to confess that I don't know what the view of T.V.C. is regarding our female members and our female officers but I do believe that our continuing high profile within the T.V.C. seems to indicate the confidence of the T.V.C. in our ability to conduct our affairs wisely and within the rules and ethos of the T.V.C.

I myself have been a full patch member for just over four years now and frankly can't see me anywhere else. I am proud to be a member, I travel pretty widely around the country now that I have a reliable ride and my colours are always showing.

Quite a few club members have pagan interests as I have myself although I am a solitary devotee solely because I have no knowledge of any pagan "church" in my area.

Our ages cover a broad spectrum as do our rides.

We welcome everyone who wishes to visit and our club is open house to any in our area who might care to visit........................

Visit our website www.caldariummcc.co.uk for a full "heads up" , PENFOLD is the custodian of our website and he is also a local parish and district councillor..................!!
We maintain a watching brief on biking matters within our area and are always willing to kick arse over traffic conditions, biker rights and parking and other biker related matters courtesy of our area rep ROUNDABOUT.

Hopefully you will see that we are'nt just about rallies and parties, we are also working behind the scenes seeking to be active custodians of the biker lifestyle and freedoms within our area.

Don't all clubs??

Peace, love and respect , my brother...................

Ride on, ride free and F.T.W........................

EverReady

Sir Ewok
25-08-2008, 07:19 PM
I belonged to an MCC when that was all there was. We did have some back patchers and 'Hell's Angels' all of which were fake, at least till the original HA came over and formalised the situation. Back then an MCC was a club where everybody met up and drank tea and played table football etc. We had run outs for punch ups at the coast and Box Hill. Mainly we just rode and drank, not even a lot of rallies back then.....:unsure:

I haven't belonged to an MCC since '69.

northernpesant
25-08-2008, 08:46 PM
i dont take sides, an i dont allow others the right to
insist on singular loyalty. if im friends with two individuals and one insists its me or them, then its the former that wasnt my friend in the first place. :(
The club im in is my exstended familey, they support me and i do my best to support them. the more i put in the more i get out. This seems to be the same at all the clubs i visit.

bird
25-08-2008, 09:25 PM
I belonged to an MCC when that was all there was. We did have some back patchers and 'Hell's Angels' all of which were fake, at least till the original HA came over and formalised the situation. Back then an MCC was a club where everybody met up and drank tea and played table football etc. We had run outs for punch ups at the coast and Box Hill. Mainly we just rode and drank, not even a lot of rallies back then.....:unsure:

I haven't belonged to an MCC since '69.
:thumbu:

I suppose I must have been out of the loop for a lonnnnggg time, cos I always thought that was what an MCC was...

Last time I was in an MCC we all rode what the fuck we liked, drank a bit, rallied a bit and we left the hardcore stuff to the Slaves down the New Vic

Sgts at Arms? Having a word? Club Rules and Club Discipline? Full patch?

I'm buggered if I could live with any of that. Maybe I've just been out here too long...

Simon B
26-08-2008, 08:39 AM
Yeah Id really want to be in a club with people jumping each others bones, taking sides against each other
Leave that club and go and join a sorted one

clanger
26-08-2008, 06:35 PM
I actually have a similar feeling about club membership as a few on here, I think women should leave men to get on with their 'membership' and keep out of it.

It gets wayyy too bitchy and political when a break-up happens. I've seen it time and time and time again with all the bike clubs I hang about with, and being on the sidelines doesn't mean I miss out, I get invited to all the parties, the BBQ's, the rallies etc. etc :thumbu: