Coppers abit sore?

[Urban Terrorist]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/7528876.stm

Their idea of revenge, because they didn't get their own way?:rolleyes:

[hacky]

there just being sore losers...if your going guys just make sure your docs are ok and take it easy..warwickshire an west mercia are gits.......:thumbsu:

[Grav]

They said they would do that ages ago. Every copper in Warwickshire is on duty that weekend within a 5 mile radius of the Bulldog Bash. Every town and conurbation in Warwicks will have a minimum police cover so I reckon the crime rate will go through the roof, yet their massive operation to secure the Bulldog will at best score 3 joints.

[kitkatman]

i like the bit 'in case of reprisals'.......why........just another bullshit escuse to tug everyone:mad:

[hacky]

there" modus operandi "is gona be to nail all.....
feckers...:mad::mad:

[dixie]

A couple o five hundred ridin in en masse after meetin in services could cause just a few traffic problems all round i reckon... n ya know what....im sure old bill would prefer to have everyone on site rather than minglin wit siteseers of stratford..if them bobbies are gonna block them roads there could be mayhem if someone was to organise a ride out from site...bloody hell....bikes comin in AND goin out...:D....dont forget to take yer camcorders kids...watchin me..watchin you.. watchin me..:D

[shaggy696969]

And next year they can use the costings as a reason to either force the organisors to contribute to police funds or the land owners.

[ChopperFXR]

OK, they are using thier powers to cause us hassle. So we as a collective use our powers to cause them hassle. Don't get mad, get even.

The way to really rain on thier parade is to make sure your bike is all up together and legal. Don't carry any ID or if you do, don't offer it. If you get pulled thay will have to do a PNC check on you and your bike. That will slow the system down a treat. If you have a camera, take a picture of the officer that stopped you and a picture of any other riders being stopped at the same time. If you have no documents they will have to issue you with a "producer". Thats even more paperwork for them.

Once you have your "Producer", go to Stratford On Avon police station. preferably with several other people that have tickets. Demand to see the duty sergeant and lodge a formal complaint for harrassment. Insist the complaint is formally investigated, that means they will have to pass it on to the Police Complaints Authority and another force will have to investigate the complaint.

If the police refuse to allow you to see the duty sergeant, you have grounds for another complaint. Insist on seeing the duty inspector and lodge both complaints at the same time. Make sure you get shoulder numbers of every cop that hassles you and lodge formal complaints about all of them.

Warwickshire and West Mercia police will be snowed under with all the investigations and paperwork.

Bear in mind that if you kick off and rant at a cop, he has the power to issue a fixed penalty notice for public order offences. So be polite and just answer yes or no to questions. Don't offer any other information at all.

If enough people do this, it will be a real slap in the face for them. A lot more effective than stamping on thier heads, which will just play right into thier hands and prove that they had supposed just grounds for thier objections to the licence in the first place.

Chopper.

[Blue38]

OK, they are using thier powers to cause us hassle. So we as a collective use our powers to cause them hassle. Don't get mad, get even.

The way to really rain on thier parade is to make sure your bike is all up together and legal. Don't carry any ID or if you do, don't offer it. If you get pulled thay will have to do a PNC check on you and your bike. That will slow the system down a treat. If you have a camera, take a picture of the officer that stopped you and a picture of any other riders being stopped at the same time. If you have no documents they will have to issue you with a "producer". Thats even more paperwork for them.

Once you have your "Producer", go to Stratford On Avon police station. preferably with several other people that have tickets. Demand to see the duty sergeant and lodge a formal complaint for harrassment. Insist the complaint is formally investigated, that means they will have to pass it on to the Police Complaints Authority and another force will have to investigate the complaint.

If the police refuse to allow you to see the duty sergeant, you have grounds for another complaint. Insist on seeing the duty inspector and lodge both complaints at the same time. Make sure you get shoulder numbers of every cop that hassles you and lodge formal complaints about all of them.

Warwickshire and West Mercia police will be snowed under with all the investigations and paperwork.

Bear in mind that if you kick off and rant at a cop, he has the power to issue a fixed penalty notice for public order offences. So be polite and just answer yes or no to questions. Don't offer any other information at all.

If enough people do this, it will be a real slap in the face for them. A lot more effective than stamping on thier heads, which will just play right into thier hands and prove that they had supposed just grounds for thier objections to the licence in the first place.

Chopper.
:D:D:D this, i like:D

[skida]

The road closures may be a cunning ploy to turn the locals against the event.

Scenario:

Fred the Local turns up at roadblock:

"Why you stopping me from getting to the ASDA half a mile up this road?"

Constable Savage: "It's for you own safety, sir. The Bulldog Bash biker's event is on and there is a danger to the public."

"But it's 15 bloody miles going round the other way!"

"You need to complain to the council, sir, they granted the licence against our advice."

"Right! I'm going to write and give them a piece of my mind!"

"Very good sir. Tell your friends about it, won't you?"

The outcome is the council receive hundreds of letters of complaint about the event.

[Ezri]

Cant you grumpy old men just be pleased its on ffs! :D :thumbsu:

[richie]

Just stay legal and be polite then they have not got any reason to give us grief and if they do take id no's and complain

[Kylie]

That reminds me - best find my documents and get my tax renewed....

[Kingo]

I got this from another forum I frequent.

Make sure that your vehicle is on the insurance listing used by both police and dvla.
www.askmid.com

This can result in a machine being taken by police and kept in a pound with a fee to be paid to collect it when documentation is produced.

I have talked to the police about this matter, and been informed it is not rare and even worse many tax discs bought via dvla are not correct.

Advice from police is to carry all documents with you at all times and to check all documents to ensure of no errors.

As for trying to get the insurance company to correct errors, i.e. not passing the information on to the data base, this is also common and may be difficult to correct.

As with all things, it is buyer beware, check check and double check.

Use site mentioned above to check if your bike, car, or other transport is correctly listed via: www.askmid.com

[STEViE]

yet their massive operation to secure the Bulldog will at best score 3 joints.

Well as long as they don't find the rest of 'em that'll be fine. Camera locked an' loaded for old bill.

[eigerton]

interesting....

A public meeting will be held at Lower Quinton Village Hall on Thursday, July 31, to explain the policing operation to any local residents who have concerns.


http://onlinenews.warwickshire.police.uk/appeals/2008728Significantpoli

[Kylie]

Advice from police is to carry all documents with you at all times and to check all documents to ensure of no errors.



Yeah - great! They're pillocks - how safe is it exactly to leave all your insurance, log book etc in your tent at a bike rally?!

My MOT certificate said my bike was a Bandit a couple of years ago, and the DVLA said they couldnt amend it (the first year the computerised MOT's came in). I noticed as soon as I was handed the MOT certificate but was told there was nothing i could do to amend it from GSF to GSX!

[STEViE]

interesting....

A public meeting will be held at Lower Quinton Village Hall on Thursday, July 31, to explain the policing operation to any local residents who have concerns.


http://onlinenews.warwickshire.police.uk/appeals/2008728Significantpoli


'Assistant Chief Constable Bill Holland said: "Warwickshire Police is committed to protecting the community from harm and we believe that the road closures are necessary to ensure maximum effectiveness for the policing operation.'


Yeah, right. Nothin' to do with just bein' downright bloody awkward then.

[Simon B]

So let them waste the money, be legal and show them what a waste of money it is, and all it will do is get the locals hacked of with the rozzers

[shaggy696969]

Unfortunately its going to fuck off the atendees who have no warning, ie loud pipes/race cans small numberplates and all the other lil quirks many of us get away with no mudguards etc, if they too stick to letter, and book everyone, it will fuck off a lot of people who may well not remain calm. Far too many variables in this for the police not to come out on top. Do love the suggestion earlier of everyone complaining officially and maybe a coouple of anouncements between bands to encourage this fine upstanding behaviour wouldnt go amiss. :rolleyes: :thumbu:

[irishbiker]

Ok quick legal question,

I plan to take my bike, some of you know it, its based on a Sunbeam but I've changed the engine and braking system along with a few other bits.

Sunbeam Owners Fellowship approve it as a Sunbeam, they are the authority for the DVLA. (Won best special and most desirable Sunbeam at this years rally :) )

I've got the engine number & CC changed on my logbook.

When I contacted my Insurance company I've told them what I've done which they took note off.

My V5C just states its a Sunbeam, no make no model but my insurance have it down as a Sunbeam S8 500, do I need to tell them to change the details even though they have details of the mods?

Thanks

Paul.

[Blue]

OK, they are using thier powers to cause us hassle. So we as a collective use our powers to cause them hassle. Don't get mad, get even.




Spot on, Chopper.

And for everyone else moaning about 'this is just the police being sore losers' - for fucks sake, this year's event was always going to be policed more stringently and more publicly than any in the last ten years.

[oneleggedfreak]

with out knowing the full detail of the bike IF its a chop based on a sunbeam the best thing for your insurance docs to say would be along the lines of

Make Sunbeam
Mobel Chop or Custom
year ect.

this is the way I would have worded the details for you if the exact model is not known,

I hope this is of help any other questions or querries please feel free to PM

[frenchie]

doh, you just beat me too it. be grateful its on, co-operate, its not actually the POLICE'S fault what happened last year is it?

you really expect them to BACK OFF even more?


grip, get,

fren

[Kylie]

I've got no issues with them having a higher presence, or even doing their jobs, but if they try to make money out of people just because its pick on a biker week then it gets silly - and especially what Kingo said about carrying documents with you or possibly have to pay to get your bike back even when its legal... thats just ridiculous.

As someone who is going to be there I'd rather the police were making sure there was no trouble than not be there and end up with guns on site.

Kylie
wimp.

[joebaddy]

I should think they are more concerned with keeping everyone safe, not what pipes you got on your bike.

They are usually amicable to all bikers and are only taking greater precautions because of last years tragedy. Why not just be co-operative and enjoy the festival as usual. It's bound to be greater than ever, though tinged with an element of poignant sadness.

[Taff]

"officers will also be using registration plate recognition technology to check vehicles on roads leading to the event"

These are gonna be intelligence based checks, to identify vehicles and/or owners of particular interest already on their database.
Not tit-for-tat trivial biker harrasment nonsense, to put you in jail if your bike's registered as "moonlight red over magenta", but it's really just fucking pink.

[joebaddy]

Oh Bollocks!!! best I get the yellow spots put back on mine then :D:D

[Simon B]

I should think they are more concerned with keeping everyone safe, not what pipes you got on your bike.

They are usually amicable to all bikers and are only taking greater precautions because of last years tragedy. Why not just be co-operative and enjoy the festival as usual. It's bound to be greater than ever, though tinged with an element of poignant sadness.

USUALLY AMICABLE TO ALL BIKERS


Its the way you tell em so it is

granted they usually are ok round the site in previous years

[Blue]

These are gonna be intelligence based checks, to identify vehicles and/or owners of particular interest already on their database.


Which there would have been anyway, and no doubt have been in past years.

[irishbiker]

Well with thanks to oneleggedfreak, I'll have a chat with me insurance company and make sure all me i''s dotted and t's crossed....

[Tim1400]

Just a thought,I wonder how many breath tests will be done on the Sunday morning?If you have been drinking steadily all day Saturday and then had a party on the night until the early hours,this could cause a few problems.

[Blue]

Just a thought,I wonder how many breath tests will be done on the Sunday morning?If you have been drinking steadily all day Saturday and then had a party on the night until the early hours,this could cause a few problems.

You know something? I haven't got a problem with that at all.

[Pugwash]

typical i'm on call out that weekend , so that'll be me going back an forward to the bully site no doubt it'll take ages to get there an back coz of you evil scum bikers riding around the place , i'm gonna complain :p


still i do hope Dodgy doesn't fill his fucking VFR with Diesel again....as i'm sure he does coz i had a right fuckin laff last year picking him up from warwickshire services..................and he was on the way there so still sober :rolleyes:

[Blue38]

You know something? I haven't got a problem with that at all.


Tea,please,lol:D:D

[Kylie]

I'm always very careful not to be over the limit when i leave a rally - after all - i wouldnt drive drunk any other time so why then?

[booie2]

unless they have a caffeine breathaliser, i'll be fine.
But on serious note, if anyone is over limit and riding, and you get pulled and breathalised, and done,
GOOD!

[Urban Terrorist]

unless they have a caffeine breathaliser, i'll be fine.
But on serious note, if anyone is over limit and riding, and you get pulled and breathalised, and done,
GOOD!

But are you still pissed in the morning? Or is it just still in your system?!!!:confused:

[booie2]

But are you still pissed in the morning? Or is it just still in your system?!!!:confused:

:confused: dont get what you mean hun,
If its in the system, your still pissed, affecting ones reaction times, ones ability to think straight, also the dehydration that accompanies 'hangover' headache, nausea, etc. Even if one doesn't suffer hangovers, ones abilities are still impaired.
So if one rides like thats, gets pulled has a positive reading, despite sleeping, day after etc, one still pissed, and shouldnt be riding.



One has said ones piece, one one one, one one. lol

[Blue38]

:confused: dont get what you mean hun,
If its in the system, your still pissed, affecting ones reaction times, ones ability to think straight, also the dehydration that accompanies 'hangover' headache, nausea, etc. Even if one doesn't suffer hangovers, ones abilities are still impaired.
So if one rides like thats, gets pulled has a positive reading, despite sleeping, day after etc, one still pissed, and shouldnt be riding.



One has said ones piece, one one one, one one. lol


No misinterpreting your opinion then,booie,lol:D

[droid]

But are you still pissed in the morning? Or is it just still in your system?!!!:confused:

Alcohol takes about an hour a unit to metabolise.

Not sure if thats an absolute, or starting after you stop drinking.

[eigerton]

maybe plod is trying to maintain an even balance between public safety and private rights

but

as has already been pointed out policing the bash is going to cost big time

so if they want to try to use excessive policing costs to prevent future events this is their opportunity - and they have used the cost argument before (http://www.jstor.org/pss/1097435 - it eventually failed but it involved injured parties going to the court of appeal)

[Blue38]

Alcohol takes about an hour a unit to metabolise.

Not sure if thats an absolute, or starting after you stop drinking.

Starts one hour after drinking with ,approximately, every half of a pint equalling a unit (again,approximately):rolleyes:

[Urban Terrorist]

Fack it, thats confused me totally now, think I'll go down the pub and think about it.:D

[Blue38]

Fack it, thats confused me totally now, think I'll go down the pub and think about it.:D

tee hee,that's what I do,lol:D:D

[Blue]

:confused: dont get what you mean hun,
If its in the system, your still pissed, affecting ones reaction times, ones ability to think straight, also the dehydration that accompanies 'hangover' headache, nausea, etc. Even if one doesn't suffer hangovers, ones abilities are still impaired.
So if one rides like thats, gets pulled has a positive reading, despite sleeping, day after etc, one still pissed, and shouldnt be riding.



One has said ones piece, one one one, one one. lol

One is quite right. :)

[Blue38]

One is quite right. :)

I NEVER drink and ride but occassionally,it has been the morning after syndrome(never pretend to be an angel:cool:). However,Ladies,I do agree with you,you are impaired following a skinful the previous eveing:(

[frenchie]

didnt princess zara's bloke get tested about 11.30 the following morning after a tip off and was found to be over the limit?

normally get shitted on a friday, and steady on a saturday night, leave early sun morning. There are exceptions, like NABD, didnt go till lunchtime. . .
fren

[Nufkamp]

I tend to get totally wankered on the Friday night, spend Saturday morning feeling like a freshly autopsied corpse, and spend Saturday night alternating beer & shandy to make sure I'm fit to ride home.

One point that bothers me about the attitude of the police is the old 'revenge' scenario. The HA were the victims last year, who are they going to take revenge on? Can you honestly see the 'other club' turning up en masse?

[Kylie]

Alcohol takes about an hour a unit to metabolise.

Not sure if thats an absolute, or starting after you stop drinking.
I personally believe it does go even when you're still drinking but the official line is an hour per unit you have drunk starting from the time you finish your LAST drink. This may of course be to ensure absolutely that you are under the limit, but even with that everyone is different. Women generally take longer to get alcohol out of their system as it is fat soluble and women carry more fat than men (fact of life sorry girls), it can also depend on your size, metabolism, what you've had to eat etc etc.

Now personally I think the plods should offer a "take a breath test to see if you're under" service ON the rally site, not 2 minutes down the road! Then we would all know where we stand and it would be the responsible thing on both sides.

I once left Farmyard at 5pm because i didnt stop drinking til about 6am... And had clubbed one of the other members of the back stage crew over the head with a bottle of vodka, kidnapped him and took him back to my tent.. oops :D

[joebaddy]

unless they have a caffeine breathaliser, i'll be fine.
But on serious note, if anyone is over limit and riding, and you get pulled and breathalised, and done,
GOOD!

Agree completely ;)

[kitkatman]

But are you still pissed in the morning? Or is it just still in your system?!!!:confused:

we use a theory at work and this has been passed down from the hiaraki, so i dought theres any truth in it, but........

for every pint you have you have to give 12 hours plus the pint, so if you have had 10 beers and finished drinking at midnight then you are safe to drive 22 hours later and it will be completly out of your system..........so 1st pint=12hrs and a hour for every pint afters

[booie2]

I think everyone is taken this out of context a bit, I'm not a copper lover, but.......
It wasn't just the biking community that was devastated by Gerry's cowardly murder last year, read the obits, the reports, It wasn't just the sadness of Gerry's passing, but also the publics concern for the lack of consideration the perpetrators showed for the 'civilians' safety on the busy M40 that day.
Do you all think the police should say, aww, bit of bad luck that, oh well. or do you think they have a public duty to try and prevent something like this happening again.
As for, 'can anyone see the 'other lot' coming down for a repeat', who knows, what they did last year, was something that was so utterly disgusting and cowardly, I wouldn't put anything past them.

[joebaddy]

I think everyone is taken this out of context a bit, I'm not a copper lover, but.......
It wasn't just the biking community that was devastated by Gerry's cowardly murder last year, read the obits, the reports, It wasn't just the sadness of Gerry's passing, but also the publics concern for the lack of consideration the perpetrators showed for the 'civilians' safety on the busy M40 that day.
Do you all think the police should say, aww, bit of bad luck that, oh well. or do you think they have a public duty to try and prevent something like this happening again.
As for, 'can anyone see the 'other lot' coming down for a repeat', who knows, what they did last year, was something that was so utterly disgusting and cowardly, I wouldn't put anything past them.

And 'they' didnt come to the site last year but waited in a lay by. So No, they would not come en masse.

The police must have been as shocked and disgusted about what happened as everyone else was and yes they have a job to do. I doubt whether this is going to be an operation to nit pick on who has loud pipes or not, but more about preventing another atrocity happening. I'm not a plod lover by any means, but they have a job to do and the more co-operative everyone can be at this function, the better it will be for the future. Lets not give them cause to try and stop it next year, but rise above what others do and show respect to Gerry Tobins memory.

[hacky]

i think your all forgeting the most important thing....













your all going to have a great weekend!!!!!:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:
thats all that matters....
you lucky buggers.....

[lemmykilmister]

What I picked up on was the cancellation reasons for other gigs included the fact that they had restricted access so that innoccent party goers could be caught up in the crossfire. Now they are restricting access roads in order to enhance public safety. Not quite sure how both can be right

[Blue38]

Also,be sure who you are labeling as "Them". It may not be exactly who YOU think they are:cool:

[Ezri]

Alcohol takes about an hour a unit to metabolise.

Not sure if thats an absolute, or starting after you stop drinking.

Wouldnt that depend on the individuals metabolic rate? :rolleyes:

[Ezri]

Now personally I think the plods should offer a "take a breath test to see if you're under" service ON the rally site, not 2 minutes down the road! Then we would all know where we stand and it would be the responsible thing on both sides.



Chemist sell kits where you can check your own alcohol levels. Worth spending a few quid on if you want to be sure. Maybe a forward thinking stall holder will have some at the rally and make a killing? :D

[droid]

Wouldnt that depend on the individuals metabolic rate? :rolleyes:

Hence the 'about':rolleyes:

[Taff]

Also,be sure who you are labeling as "Them". It may not be exactly who YOU think they are:cool:


What's with the veiled warning and cool 'i know things me...' icon?
If you got summat to say, say it, don't imply it in such a smug, know-all way.

[ChopperFXR]

There have been a few interesting comments about various issues concerning anyone attending the Bulldog Bash.

Maybe worth taking a moment to think about a few of them. Bear them in mind "IF" you get hassled, "IF" you have a few beers, "IF" your bike is less legal than it should be.

Me? I am just really looking forward to The Bulldog Bash, the ride there, meeting up with old mates and having a bloody good time. Nothing I can do about what the police have planned, but I am responsible for my own actions. I do not intend to let the policing operation spoil my weekend.

Chopper.

[John Hopkins]

Well you couldn't really get a quieter venue than the Royal Welsh motorbike show at Builth Wells, but they cancelled that because it might be unsafe, and they are expecting trouble at the Bulldog..It sounds to me as if someone has sent a memo to all police departments suggesting possible trouble spots to watch out for and listed mororbike rallies as one of them...John

[Yambabe]

There have been a few interesting comments about various issues concerning anyone attending the Bulldog Bash.

Maybe worth taking a moment to think about a few of them. Bear them in mind "IF" you get hassled, "IF" you have a few beers, "IF" your bike is less legal than it should be.

Me? I am just really looking forward to The Bulldog Bash, the ride there, meeting up with old mates and having a bloody good time. Nothing I can do about what the police have planned, but I am responsible for my own actions. I do not intend to let the policing operation spoil my weekend.

Chopper.

What he said.

Someone on another forum has also posted up your rights under PACE if you ARE stopped and searched. Might be worth a look for those going?


Being stopped & searched

There is no requirement to give your name or address when you are being searched, but the police can legally take your photograph at any time, and under Section 61 Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) can fingerprint you before arrest, but only if they suspect you of committing an offence and can’t establish your name and address or think you have given a false one.

Before any search, under Section 2 PACE, you must be told:
�� The officer’s name and police station
�� The purpose of the search
�� The legal grounds for the search
�� That you are entitled to a copy of the search


The police can search you and seize property on the
following grounds.

�� Section 1 PACE 1984 permits the police to search you or
your vehicle at any time if they have reasonable grounds to
suspect that you have stolen items, offensive weapons, or
items that may be used for burglary, theft or criminal damage.
They cannot search through personal papers. Ask the police
what their grounds for suspicion are.

�� If an order under section 60 Criminal Justice & Public
Order Act 1994 is in place, the police can search you or
your vehicle for offensive weapons in anticipation of violence,
regardless of whether they suspect you. Again, they cannot go
through your papers.

�� If an order under section 44 Terrorism Act 2000 is in
place, this allows the police to search you or your vehicle for
items associated with terrorism. No reasonable suspicion is
required. The police do have the right to search through your
papers.

�� Section 43 Terrorism Act 2000 permits the police to
search you or your vehicle for articles associated with terrorism
if they reasonably suspect you to be a terrorist. Ask the police
what their grounds for suspicion are. They can search through
your papers. Terrorism includes serious property damage as
well as violence.


Incidentally as a law-abiding member of the public with no connection to any of the clubs I am very unworried about my safety at the BDB. In fact I'd be more worried to stay at home, during BDB weekend last year a man was kicked to death just a few hundred yards from my front door...........

RIP Garry Newlove (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1560174/Six-questioned-after-man-dies-outside-his-home.html)

[Kylie]

Me? I am just really looking forward to The Bulldog Bash, the ride there, meeting up with old mates and having a bloody good time. Nothing I can do about what the police have planned, but I am responsible for my own actions. I do not intend to let the policing operation spoil my weekend.

Chopper.

I may possibly see you there - I'll be working some of the time and some of the time wandering around seeing whatever there is to see.

Someone start praying for good weather? This rain is no fun at rallies!

[joebaddy]

Well you couldn't really get a quieter venue than the Royal Welsh motorbike show at Builth Wells, but they cancelled that because it might be unsafe, and they are expecting trouble at the Bulldog..It sounds to me as if someone has sent a memo to all police departments suggesting possible trouble spots to watch out for and listed mororbike rallies as one of them...John


I dont mean to be rude, but this is bollocks!!! of course the police are concerned and they have every right to be in light of last years tragedy.
The are a lot of 'bolt holes' surrounding Long Marston and all they are trying to do is limit any possibility of another tragedy happening. Thats all.

Any 'searches they might deem to carry out will be to look for weapons I should think. The Bash will be great as usual and all this worry mongering is doing no good to anyone. The Bash is and always has been safe. Enjoy the week end and spare a thought for Gerry's family and friends. I'm sure he will be there is spirit.

[irishbiker]

I've never been before and I am looking forward to it. I was just concerned about my bike, its not standard. I wanted to get there with the least hassle. I suppose I'm not going to be the only biker riding to the Bulldog with a non-standard bike. :)

[Kylie]

I'm just going to be hoping they don't look too closely at my bike cos she's a bit bruised and battered atm, due to be fixed when Uncle Grav and I are both available at the same time.

I would imagine there will be loads of non-standard bikes.

[Blue38]

What's with the veiled warning and cool 'i know things me...' icon?
If you got summat to say, say it, don't imply it in such a smug, know-all way.

Not being a smug "I know things" at all.Nor was a veiled warning intended.
All I am saying is that conclusions are easily jumped to when ALL the facts are not known by most,including myself:rolleyes:

[Blue]

I've never been before and I am looking forward to it. I was just concerned about my bike, its not standard. I wanted to get there with the least hassle. I suppose I'm not going to be the only biker riding to the Bulldog with a non-standard bike. :)

Paul, there WILL be a huge amount of non-standard bikes going there, and to the untrained eye, yours will look like it is - a classic. To be honest, I would expect stock bikes are far more likely to be pulled over than customs.

[Taff]

To be honest, I would expect stock bikes are far more likely to be pulled over than customs.

I suspect cars and vans will be pretty high on the list as well.

[joebaddy]

Paul, there WILL be a huge amount of non-standard bikes going there, and to the untrained eye, yours will look like it is - a classic. To be honest, I would expect stock bikes are far more likely to be pulled over than customs.



would you care to explain why ????

[Kylie]

would you care to explain why ????

Probably cos they're easier to see when something isn't spot on factory fitted etc. Mine's legal, just a bit knackered.

[Kylie]

I suspect cars and vans will be pretty high on the list as well.

I did briefly consider taking my car down so i could take more stuff with me, but decided i didnt need that much stuff with me anyway, and i prefer riding the bike than driving the car!

[Yambabe]

would you care to explain why ????

Because the people they are likely to be looking for are unlikely to be deliberately drawing attention to themselves perhaps?

They may hassle people for small niggly things just to cause disruption or they may be genuinely searching for particular people/vehicles/things, guess we'll find out on the day.

Can't imagine they will want the paperwork involved in thousands of small stop n searches though when the returns in terms of fines or arrests are likely to be fairly small..........

[Blue]

would you care to explain why ????

Yam & Kylie have both understood & explained reasons. You want to find something else to needle me about?

[Blue38]

Yam & Kylie have both understood & explained reasons. You want to find something else to needle me about?

??????????????:confused:

Did I miss something(as usual)?:rolleyes:

[joebaddy]

Yam & Kylie have both understood & explained reasons. You want to find something else to needle me about?

Not intending to needle you, just a blanket statement that required clarification in my opinion. If your statement was your opinion, then I think you are living in cloud cuckoo land. How many thousand bikes attended last year???? How many of those are 'stock' bikes. How many are stock bikes with some personal though not obtrusive, modifications.

I should think the police are preparing themselves for more than their fair share of work for that week end without looking for problems by nit picking on trivialities.

They usually have a very relaxed week end at the Bash, this year they will have to work. I'm sure they are quite needled about that. :D:D

[Simon B]

Joe, its already been answered why, cause its easier for them to spot stuff
And most of the old bill know that.
Hardly a blanket statement when plenty of others think the same, also I cant remember the last time Ive been pulled over, but see plenty of power ranges pulled over cause the pipes , plates etc are an easy nick

[Shifty]

Plus I would imagine the power ranger types are more likely to be making tits of themselves on the road (as usual)

[Kylie]

I've been tugged twice while doing nothing out of order and the plods get mighty upset when i have a road legal sports bike (well it looks like one from a distance). They do like to have a real good poke around the numberplate and exhaust in particular hoping for a nice fine.

[joebaddy]

Plus I would imagine the power ranger types are more likely to be making tits of themselves on the road (as usual)


this is why you usually see them being pulled over - cos they are being tits. :D

[joebaddy]

The Bash was covered on our local news tonight. The police are setting up their 'road blocks' or at least the locals are aware of the whereabouts and are up in arms about it.

I'm not going to repeat on here, some of the ludicrous fears the police said they have because I dont think it will serve any usful purpose, but what I found heart warming was the comments from the locals they interviewed, such as:

"In over 20 years, we have never had any problems with this festival and there has never been any trouble. The tragedy last years happened some 14 miles away and not at the festival. Now the locals will have to travel miles out of their way just to go about their normal lives and one of my neighbours will have to go 12 miles to feed their horse which are a mile down the road.
I think the police are over acting. This festival puts £1000,000 into our local economy, traders look forward to it and the Hells Angels contribute heavily to local charities".

The above is not verbatim but the content is accurate and the statement was made, interestingly, by an ex plod.

The rest of the interviews were of other locals supporting the event and moaning about the diversions causing them inconvenience.

The reporter stated that police would be doing random searches.

This was on Central News. I'm sorry I cant find it on their web site, but I'm sure I was'nt the only one to see it.

So IMHO, the less the plod have to moan about afterwards, the better. Let things run smoothly and if stopped, dont take it personally cos they have to justify the cost of this 'operation'. If all passes with no incident, who will end up with a great dollop of scrambled embryonic substance on their face.

[booie2]

not to mention the egg. ;)












Why cant people speak fucking english, like what i was taught when i were a children in skool.

[Mikesmad]

not to mention the egg. ;)












Why cant people speak fucking english, like what i was taught when i were a children in skool.

Cos we arenae feckin talkin.....

......we're feckin typin an that, the noo........

....................okay, rite, an awe that stuff?

[booie2]

Cos we arenae feckin talkin.....

......we're feckin typin an that, the noo........

....................okay, rite, an awe that stuff?

Translation:
Because we aren't fucking talking,
We're fucking typing and that, you know
okay, right, and all that stuff.

See, that is betterer, at least i didnt have to get the thesaurus dictionary out to find out what you actually said/typed/spelt Mike. :D

[griff2000]

Getting back to the thread..........
Details of those road closures.


http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/south-warwickshire-news/

[Kylie]

I suppose i ought to look at how I am going to get there really....

[irishbiker]

I suppose i ought to look at how I am going to get there really....


I'd use your bike, if I were you.... bit far to walk :)

[Kylie]

I'd use your bike, if I were you.... bit far to walk :)

I had managed to think that far ahead - i just hope my chain is thinking along the same lines - there's not much adjustability left in it!!

[Blue38]

I had managed to think that far ahead - i just hope my chain is thinking along the same lines - there's not much adjustability left in it!!

Knock a couple of links out of it and take it easy (Like don't thrash the fuck out of it). Used to do it all the time,should get yyou there and back no probs. Just remember,it is weakened:)

[Kylie]

Knock a couple of links out of it and take it easy (Like don't thrash the fuck out of it). Used to do it all the time,should get yyou there and back no probs. Just remember,it is weakened:)

I wouldnt have a clue where to start knocking links out, but as i'll be loaded it should be ok anyway...

Just got to make it last til I can see Uncle Grav and do some shopping - hoping to have her fixed before bank holiday weekend to do Wozwolf

[irishbiker]

I wouldnt have a clue where to start knocking links out, but as i'll be loaded it should be ok anyway...


Might be lucky and there might be one of them bike doctors stalls where you can get you bike fixed on the spot. Seen one at a few farmyards..

[Kylie]

Might be lucky and there might be one of them bike doctors stalls where you can get you bike fixed on the spot. Seen one at a few farmyards..

There's no point spending money on it if i can avoid it, its about to get lots spent again cos its new shock and new chain time, and possibly new sprockets depending on how they've worn...

If worst comes t worst i'll suffer taking the car, but i would really rather not.

[Blue38]

There's no point spending money on it if i can avoid it, its about to get lots spent again cos its new shock and new chain time, and possibly new sprockets depending on how they've worn...

If worst comes t worst i'll suffer taking the car, but i would really rather not.

Shouldn't cost more than a pint!! New link,centre punch and 2 minutes:thumbu:

[shaggy696969]

Shouldn't cost more than a pint!! New link,centre punch and 2 minutes

I really would not do this ! , Ive seen the result of overstretched chain, if your lucky it snaps flys off and leaves you stranded, if your unlucky in the processs of flying off it chops a hole in the crankcase and fubars the engine if your really unlucky in the processs of flying off it chops a hole in the crankcase and fubars the engine and takes a fair chunk of your leg or other fleshy part it comes in contact with, with it. :thumbd:

[Kylie]

I really would not do this ! , Ive seen the result of overstretched chain, if your lucky it snaps flys off and leaves you stranded, if your unlucky in the processs of flying off it chops a hole in the crankcase and fubars the engine if your really unlucky in the processs of flying off it chops a hole in the crankcase and fubars the engine and takes a fair chunk of your leg or other fleshy part it comes in contact with, with it. :thumbd:

I'm not going to, like i said, either it will look like its going to do the distance or i take the car.... if i have to take the car I shall sulk... The chain isn't overstretched as it is, just reaching the end of its limit thingy, its not great, but it'll do - i wouldnt like to start playing with taking links out tho.

She's just out to make me spend loads of money on her cos i went to Faro without her

[Blue38]

I really would not do this ! , Ive seen the result of overstretched chain, if your lucky it snaps flys off and leaves you stranded, if your unlucky in the processs of flying off it chops a hole in the crankcase and fubars the engine if your really unlucky in the processs of flying off it chops a hole in the crankcase and fubars the engine and takes a fair chunk of your leg or other fleshy part it comes in contact with, with it. :thumbd:

Agree but that is why I said take it very easy. Does depend on how wankered the chain is before you knock a link out and how much torque you send it. Have ridden (many years ago,in my foolish youth) around for a few months with one like it but DEFINITELY would not recommend doing that!!!!!:thumbd:

[irishbiker]

that's why I have belt and drive shaft bikes.... Had a near miss once...

[Blue38]

I'm not going to, like i said, either it will look like its going to do the distance or i take the car.... if i have to take the car I shall sulk... The chain isn't overstretched as it is, just reaching the end of its limit thingy, its not great, but it'll do - i wouldnt like to start playing with taking links out tho.

She's just out to make me spend loads of money on her cos i went to Faro without her

Ah,leaving her at home while you were in the sun!! do deserve everything the throws at you:D:D

[Blue38]

that's why I have belt and drive shaft bikes.... Had a near miss once...

Same here,belt on mine!!:thumbsu:

[shaggy696969]

She's just out to make me spend loads of money on her cos i went to Faro without her

See if you calle d it a Him it would be less tempermental as you ride it often, and not demand so much money, Just might drink a bit more :rolleyes: :D

[Blue38]

See if you calle d it a Him it would be less tempermental as you ride it often, and not demand so much money, Just might drink a bit more :D

pmsl:D:D:D

[Kylie]

See if you calle d it a Him it would be less tempermental as you ride it often, and not demand so much money, Just might drink a bit more :rolleyes: :D

Thats one thing she doesnt do - drink oil!

It pains me to admit this, but idiot ex who works for suzuki dealer told me my shock was bolloxed ages ago and I didnt believe him..... i think he was probably right, and i hate admitting that a 21 year old boy is right!

[shaggy696969]

I dont think his age really comes into it does it, never met a woman yet who likes to admit any man is right about anything ever

[Blue38]

I dont think his age really comes into it does it, never met a woman yet who likes to admit any man is right about anything ever

:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:

[Blue38]

Sorry Kylie,not picking on women,honest (cos I NEVER win:rolleyes:) :D:D

[Taff]

Police were jeered as they outlined road closure plans for a £1m operation for a biker festival in Warwickshire.
More than 100 residents attended a meeting on Thursday to discuss the force's tactics for next week's Bulldog Bash at Long Marston airfield.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/7537820.stm

[lowrider]

Good,make them think twice when they know that they do not have the support of the locals.:thumbu:

[Blue38]

It really does look like they're trying to make the budget for "policing" the area at the time of the Bulldog astronomical just so they can use it against future licensing.A bit of an underhand tactic,methinks. Next,they'll be using things from anti-terrorist laws against us:thumbd:

[Bodge]

It really does look like they're trying to make the budget for "policing" the area at the time of the Bulldog astronomical just so they can use it against future licensing.A bit of an underhand tactic,methinks. Next,they'll be using things from anti-terrorist laws against us:thumbd:

Looks like Warwickshire's council tax will be hiked up a bit then.

[Tim1400]

Glad I moved over the border to Staffordshire then :D

[droid]

Quite.....:D:D

[Blue38]

Unfortunately,though,they will use this to oppose next years licence. just hope everyone is on best behaviour,set an example,to show it is the police's over reaction and nothing to do with any of the Bulldog organisers,paticipants or patrons. It is very obvious that the local people support the Bulldog and the local authorites,just the police throwing their toys out of their prams

[Shifty]

Unfortunately,though,they will use this to oppose next years licence.


I thought I saw somewhere that the licence granted stands for 10 years.

Could be wrong though, not really sure how these things work.

[Blue38]

I thought I saw somewhere that the licence granted stands for 10 years.

Could be wrong though, not really sure how these things work.

You may well be right,not sure of that either.

Taff,what's the answer?

[shaggy696969]

It is and it does.

[Blue38]

Thanks,Shaggy,was curious about that one

[pagan_flame]

Looks like Warwickshire's council tax will be hiked up a bit then.I would suspect that the aforementioned 'easy nick' will be used to fund it - anyone with a small plate, loud pipe or black visor will get a fixed penalty notice.