vertical number plates

[chazz]

whats the laws stance on these http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/chazz/2267_1.jpg

are they legal here or is it a deffo no

[gurnE]

They'd be illegal on size but I can't see anything about having to be the horizontal other than "Number Plates must be easy to read and meet the British Standard"

They could have you on 'easy to read' potentially then but it'd be a moot point because the plate would be illegal due to size anyway imo.

[hermann]

whats the laws stance on these http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/chazz/2267_1.jpg

are they legal here or is it a deffo no
Have you got a link for that?

[gurnE]

Custom Chrome do a few styles.

http://www.customchrome.com/catalogs/ccp2007/full.asp?page=302

[Blue]

whats the laws stance on these

are they legal here or is it a deffo no

Legally, numberplates have to comply to British Standard BS AU145a and have a BS-compliant stamp on them.

The only way I could see that you would possibly get away with a vertical plate is if you had a personal registration mark short enough to ensure that you wouldn't be splitting up groups of letters/digits and that they'd be the right sodding height, font and distance from the edge. They could still get you for the plate not having a BS AU145a stamp, though...

[johnr]

found this online,

"Number Plate Law
The law states that,

You must not alter, rearrange or misrepresent the letters or numbers
Characters must not be moved from one group to the other (e.g. A242 ABC must not be displayed as A242A BC).
Offences may result in any or all of the following:

A fine of up to £1,000
The registration mark may be WITHDRAWN
The vehicle may FAIL the MOT test
Full details of the requirements are included in The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001 "

[RobK]

Have they made it a pointable offence yet?

I got done about 16 months ago for a black plate. Got a £30 fine and no points.

This was near Wales mind and I think the copper was bored and wanted to nick someone. Other than that I've never been stopped for a dodgy plate.

It it's not pointable yet then I'd be inclined to risk it.

Cheers,
Rob.

[gurnE]

No, still no points.

They do seem to be cracking down on them lately though. Probaby due to the increased use of ANPR.

In 14 years of small plates I've had 4 VDR's and 3 of those were last year.

No fines yet though and they've not said a word about the black plate on the Harley touch wood.

[kitkatman]

aint touched me yet...( famous last words, i suppose).....dont think the pigs are too interested around these parts though

[shaggy696969]

I believe they can prosecute for "going equiped to comit crime" and push for points and fine, if they feel the need too. Ie they feel you are taking the piss or are a constant re offender.

[Grav]

Cant see the point in using small plates or fancy fonts as it is cheaper to get a proper one made.

[kitkatman]

Cant see the point in using small plates or fancy fonts as it is cheaper to get a proper one made.
mine aint small, its custom sized to the bracket it hangs from :D

[Peirre]

Cant see the point in using small plates or fancy fonts as it is cheaper to get a proper one made.
and 1 less means of being hassled by the law


I decided to get rid of the show plate and other pig magnets from my bikes, I didn`t want the hassle. I don`t need any record on DVLA`s computer stating that I`ve done something so trivially wrong, especially in my line of work. Where companies who I work for frequently have DVLA on speed dial, to enable em to do licence checks on me, something that happens every 12 weeks.
Multiply that by the number of companies that I work for, means I get lots of licence check throughout the year!

[Grav]

and 1 less means of being hassled by the law



Indeed. :)

[krammer]

No, still no points.

They do seem to be cracking down on them lately though. Probaby due to the increased use of ANPR.

In 14 years of small plates I've had 4 VDR's and 3 of those were last year.

No fines yet though and they've not said a word about the black plate on the Harley touch wood. Well i did'nt know that. I had always assumed it was a points job with a less than kosher plate. I've had a black plate with silver characters for three years now and so far (TOUCH WOOD ) no bother. Just me pipe's now then :) ;)

[hacky]

ANPR uses special software to read vehicle number plates, which it then compares with those on its database (see below), setting off an alarm whenever it recognises one of interest to the police. The ANPR operator then alerts the motorcycle team, who stop the vehicle, talk to the driver, check any documents, establish what offence(s) have occurred, if any - and if necessary, arrest the driver. The equipment is linked to GPS by satellite, so it can always be proved exactly where it is (or was) at any point in time. This is also useful for officers' safety.

Flexible Friend?
There are several versions of ANPR equipment ranging from static sites to in-car systems and portable laptop systems. Norfolk Constabulary make full use of such systems. Any one of these can check up to 3,000 (yes - three thousand!) number plates per hour, on vehicles travelling up to 100mph. They even work at night, using infra-red cameras.

Database
The database used by ANPR includes:
- the Police National Computer (PNC), which holds extensive data on criminals, vehicles and property.
- the Driver and Vehicle Licencing Agency (DVLA), showing untaxed or unlicenced vehicles.
- Norfolk Constabulary's "hotlist" of vehicles of interest - e.g. those used by known criminals, or which have been reported at the scene of a crime.
- other forces' hotlists. These are constantly updated, and sharing this information between forces means that, for example, if a vehicle was known to be used for criminal activity in Devon, it would set off an alert if driven past an ANPR camera in Norfolk.

:mad: :mad:


http://www.appian-tech.com/products/anpr-cameras



he Home Office has made £32.5 million available to the Police Service in years 2005-08 for the provision of ANPR technological development. A significant proportion of this funding has been allocated to the development of the National ANPR Data Centre (NADC) - a facility that will enhance the police’s post-incident investigation capability.
A great deal of care is being taken to ensure that the rights of the individual are safeguarded through the police use of ANPR-derived data. ANPR is, above all, about denying criminals the use of the roads, leaving law-abiding citizens to go about their business uninterrupted.


read into it as you will.....

[shaggy696969]

You'll like this, ANPR can also be utilised by local authority in conjunction with local Police forces to enforce speed limits in residential areas via Time lapse, ie you enter a village at 30 being aware of camera speed up as per norm then slow for second camera, as per normal speed camera evasion, and hey presto the computer averages your speed between the cameras and sends the tickets automatically, worth thinking about as more and more local authorities introduce 20mph speed limits in residential areas, and around schools. Automatic fines for shortcuts. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[devon-tony]

you could probably get one of the 3 row plates in there

but just looked at MOT manual and dont think they legal DOH, seen plety of them about thgouh

[gurnE]

3 line plates aren't legal on vehicles registered sometime in 2001 onwards IIRC.

[kitkatman]

3 line plates aren't legal on vehicles registered sometime in 2001 onwards IIRC.
1986 for mine.......so safeish there then ( famous last words)

[gothtec]

how about plates on trailers. Mines a little smaller but basicaly the same... Seems a bit pointless for the cops to have a go when the main plate is very visable from the bike as well...

http://www.gothtec.com/Newtrailer2.jpg

[clanger]

I think it would be wise to ask the DVLA. Get a letter saying yes from them and carry it everywhere for when the police drag you over. ;)

[knuckle]

I heard that when the legislation was drawn up, that the wording actually stipulated Motor CAR, and not Motor VEHICLE. If that is right, then Silver on Black on a bike is legal. It would be worth checking the exact wording of the Act. It may have been amended by now. In any case if the Cop doesn't know, you are going to get a pull even if you are right.

Here is a link to DVLA on pdf:

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf

[chazz]

goin by the info on the pdf link im safe on both chops as ones 75 an other 72,so i guess i can have a three line plate on both,funny enough i saw an ex bizzy bm the other day with a 3 line plate

[shaggy696969]

My Old paramedic beemer had a 3 line plate too.