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Miss Demeanour

19-12-2004, 08:09 PM

I personally believe in the ethical treatment of animals, and for that and many other reasons, I don't eat them. But that's my personal view, and I tend not to shove it down anyone's throat, nor do I normally mention it, other than for catering purposes.

I find it personally distasteful that some animals are referred to as 'crops', and chickens are 'grown'. We may think we have the upper hand on the planet, but that's no reason to treat other creatures with a total lack of respect, IMHO. I think PETA have their hearts in the right place, but their methods only go to get people wound up. (Hence the website.)

It still amuses me when i remember the article about the people who hacked the PETA website, and replaced it with 'People Eating Tasty Animals'.

Heh...

krammer

19-12-2004, 08:15 PM

the thing with a lot of these protest groups is that their views are moderate until the extrememists take over. (meat is murder?) there has been a case in the news recently where the long buried mother a guinea pig farm owner has had her remains dissinterred and removed!

Jonnyfp

19-12-2004, 08:16 PM

My brother reckons cows are so stupid they deserve to be eaten. :D

defarter

19-12-2004, 08:22 PM

My brother reckons cows are so stupid they deserve to be eaten. :D

Maccie D's or Burger King :D :D

krammer

19-12-2004, 08:22 PM

My brother reckons cows are so stupid they deserve to be eaten. :D can't argue with that. or a cow for that matter. ;)

Miss Demeanour

19-12-2004, 08:24 PM

My brother reckons cows are so stupid they deserve to be eaten. :D

A friend says the same about Chickens. but she used to keep them, so it is, at least, a studied opinion....

defarter

19-12-2004, 08:28 PM

A friend says the same about Chickens. but she used to keep them, so it is, at least, a studied opinion....

Got 6 chickens and i kidnapp the eggs every day :D :D

dracken1

19-12-2004, 08:39 PM

My brother reckons cows are so stupid they deserve to be eaten.

then i would ask your brother why he believes they are stupid?

is it because they don't start wars or kill each other?

many people believe animals are uncaring, but that is based on our own interpretation of caring, not that the human race has a very good record when it comes to caring.

nature can take care of itself that is the order of things. we are the ones who attempt to change and cheat nature. and we will one day pay a terrible price for it.

if every living thing with the exception of the human race was to die overnight. we would be a hellish state in a short time.

but if we were the ones to vanish. the rest of the animal kingdom would get along quite nicely

BikerGran

19-12-2004, 09:08 PM

I too believe in the proper treatment of animals, but I don't find that incompatible with eating them. In my view we are all animals, and we are all part of the food chain, but that doesn't mean that animals should be treated badly. I buy free range eggs cos the hens have a decent life, I buy lamb quite a lot cos sheep are not reared intensively. I wouldn't buy pork at all but my hubby likes it so we do get that and I don't suppose I'd like the conditions it was reared in.. I used to get it from a farm along the road where you see the animals and the conditions, they were rooting about in the fields and enjoying piggy heaven! But that farm doesn't do pigs any more.... prolly cos peeps aren't prepared to pay that bit extra that it costs to give the animals a decent life - not realising that when they've grown up in natural conditions the meat tastes so much better!

The original question - dunno about that particular organisation but I cannot understand anyone who believes in animal welfare hurting another animal - even a human one - to make their point??????
Like the anti-hunt people who put nails on the road that got into the horses' hooves. Seems to me they're just as bad as the people they are protesting about.

Jonnyfp

19-12-2004, 09:10 PM

then i would ask your brother why he believes they are stupid?

is it because they don't start wars or kill each other?

many people believe animals are uncaring, but that is based on our own interpretation of caring, not that the human race has a very good record when it comes to caring.

nature can take care of itself that is the order of things. we are the ones who attempt to change and cheat nature. and we will one day pay a terrible price for it.

if every living thing with the exception of the human race was to die overnight. we would be a hellish state in a short time.

but if we were the ones to vanish. the rest of the animal kingdom would get along quite nicely

That quoted sentence looks completely different without the smilie Dracken.

wegit

19-12-2004, 09:16 PM

Got 6 chickens and i kidnapp the eggs every day :D :D
The parents must be devistated !!!! You Beast !!!

I eat anything I can catch !!!!!

The grass around here feels very threatend, and so it should. I can still reach it after 8 pints !!!

Jonnyfp

19-12-2004, 09:17 PM

I was a veg until the 3B's do this year and that 'phase' started when i was 12..so for longer than half my life i have not eaten meat....can you say the same dracken?...I'm not after a row btw its just a life changing thing i did.
Now i feel more alive than i've done in years cos i'm getting the protein i need. Its taken me 18 years to realise that we are omnivores and to deny ourselves of that can probably do us harm...i'm sure someone will disagree...but come back in ten years and tell me you've not touched meat before you tell me i'm talkin bollox eh?
I can't stand beef. I had some recently and did'nt have the heart to say i was'nt keen. but yeah i agree todays intensive farming methods suck,
Cows are farmed stupid i've yet to see a cow open a can of sardines...lol

wegit

19-12-2004, 09:21 PM

Miss Demeanour

19-12-2004, 09:26 PM

Actually, strangely, I feel better for not eating meat. And although we were 'arranged' to be omnivores, we are 'designed' to eat game, esp the variety that we have to chase first (and then only as a last resort, such as winter, when the more stationary sources of food have died off.) This meat is more easily digested and lower in saturated fat than the farmed, unnaturally fed and unexercised variety.

Jonnyfp

19-12-2004, 09:34 PM

Miss...check your teeth we are evolved to eat meat and veg.
We're not ethically programmed i agree.
Have you never in your life by choice or otherwise eaten meat?
And can you honestly say that if you'd never done so you'd be healthier?

Miss Demeanour

19-12-2004, 09:50 PM

I agree we are meant to be omnivores, matey, but read my post again.

Not all meat is the same, that's what I'm trying to say - the composition of farmed meat is not the same as game. Therefore we end up with athersclerosis and digestive problems. Processed meat is so far removed from what the human body is designed to eat, is practically useless. Game is lower in saturated fat, and is more tolerable to the human digestive system.

We are designed to eat meat, yes, but are not designed to eat it in the quantities that we do. the human body is designed to eat protien, but not in the quantities that we do. Vegetable protien is more tolerable to the human body.

Therefore, yes, we are designed to eat meat. But not in the quantities that we do, and in essence, to get us through the winter.

And yes, I really do feel healthier now that I don't eat meat, especially not in the processed form. But then again, I have a (mostly) proper balanced vegetarian diet, including the right combination of non-meat foods with enough amino acids to form complete protiens. And yes, I feel better for it. (Gave up meat for health reasons anyway - had recurrent gastritis). A *proper* vegetarian diet is somewhat more healthy than a meat containing one. However it involves, for me, cooking from fresh nearly every night, something most people can't be arsed to do.

I also had a blood pressure of 126/77 last time it was measured. Not bad for a fat bird. :D

Dougie

19-12-2004, 09:55 PM

I'm with Wegit on this.When I was a sprog my mother forced me to eat various veggies which put me off for life.There are some I like,onions,pinto beans,spuds (obviously),peppers,chillies and tomatoes.(and before some pedant points out that tomatoes are actually fruit I couldn't really care!).I don't have a go at vegetarians,and if veggies don't try and force their beliefs on me I'm happy,although I can NOT be doing with those who feed their cats & dogs on a vegetarian diet.That's just taking things too far.

Jonnyfp

19-12-2004, 09:59 PM

Miss Demeanour

19-12-2004, 10:05 PM

Oh and just so it can't be said that I don't dodge questions:-

Miss...check your teeth we are evolved to eat meat and veg.

True, I quite agree. Check your arteries though. We can't tolerate the type of meat we're eating.

We're not ethically programmed i agree.

It's nothing to do with 'ethical programming'. ethics are a personal choice.

Have you never in your life by choice or otherwise eaten meat?

Yes, in the same way most people were fed veggies, and have now gone off them in adult life.

And can you honestly say that if you'd never done so you'd be healthier?

Yes - we have a family history of certain circulatory disorders in our family that I'm starting to have to think about now - if I had never got a taste for meat in my childhood, perhaps I wouldn't be such a lardarse now.

Miss Demeanour

19-12-2004, 10:09 PM

Mort will kick your ass if you call yourself that again and you know it...lol

What will be our next turning point where evlolution is concerned?
How will our bodies evolution cope with processed cack?

yes went back and read it again miss..sorry bab.. :D

Well, if you can't laff at yourself... blah blah, etc... Anyway, I'm fairly certain I've got a cholesterol level to match too, and feel quite smug about it.

and... they will not... successive generations now have a shorter life expectancy than their parents. We should, quite frankly, leave food alone - we're processing it faster than evolution can catch up.

forgiven, J. :D :D

Yoda

19-12-2004, 10:10 PM

I have NEVER tried to be a veigitarian or vegan (?? Spelling)) but to be honest, I HATE veg. I can't stand any of them. Brockli, cabbage, salad foods or owt green.

If I didn't eat meat I'd starve in a week !!

Ohh it ryhmes !!

im with this man
i dont eat veg on principle though (have ytou heard carrots scream when chopped up??)

I am a Meatatarian
(but i dont think cruelty is a good thing..well not to animals anyway... :) humans maybe :) )

Yoda

Jonnyfp

19-12-2004, 10:12 PM

Oh and just so it can't be said that I don't dodge questions:-

True, I quite agree. Check your arteries though. We can't tolerate the type of meat we're eating.

It's nothing to do with 'ethical programming'. ethics are a personal choice.

Yes, in the same way most people were fed veggies, and have now gone off them in adult life.

Yes - we have a family history of certain circulatory disorders in our family that I'm starting to have to think about now - if I had never got a taste for meat in my childhood, perhaps I wouldn't be such a lardarse now.

1.covered in my last post.
2.Ethics are like fashion they change from generation to generation...theres stuff you could've done with kids 20 years ago innocently but can't now cos its considered unethical.
3.Is personal choice.
4.Our family has a lyden deficiency 5 in our case...

i posted this so's i cant be accused of dodgin the answers...lol

defarter

19-12-2004, 10:22 PM

Eggie and soldiers anyone :D :D :D ;)

Miss Demeanour

19-12-2004, 10:23 PM

1.covered in my last post.
2.Ethics are like fashion they change from generation to generation...theres stuff you could've done with kids 20 years ago innocently but can't now cos its considered unethical.
3.Is personal choice.
4.Our family has a lyden deficiency 5 in our case...

i posted this so's i cant be accused of dodgin the answers...lol

I thine the above few were typed reasonably simultaneously.

I like examining matters of Ethics. That, along with philosophy, anthropology and sociology have very little to do with the real world, but are an interesting examination of where we're going as a people. IMHO, Ethics - unlike fashion - collectively only goes forward. Yes, some things that were OK decades ago are considered unethical now, but we as a society tend not to go back on them.

Fashion, on the other hand, is just stoopid.

TaxiDave

19-12-2004, 10:50 PM

then i would ask your brother why he believes they are stupid?

is it because they don't start wars or kill each other?

many people believe animals are uncaring, but that is based on our own interpretation of caring, not that the human race has a very good record when it comes to caring.

nature can take care of itself that is the order of things. we are the ones who attempt to change and cheat nature. and we will one day pay a terrible price for it.

if every living thing with the exception of the human race was to die overnight. we would be a hellish state in a short time.

but if we were the ones to vanish. the rest of the animal kingdom would get along quite nicely

I agree with Dracken. Feck, I hate it when I find myself doing that.

Bassman

19-12-2004, 10:55 PM

Lots of opinions on this eh?
I eat meat... but I am not particularly proud of doing so...
I enjoy it, so I eat it..
I also go fly fishing for trout...but i must admit that I always put the fish back alive, as I could not eat it if I killed it....maybe that makes me a bit of a hippocrite eh?
Anyway, back to the original question, of are these caring people or a bunch of nutters.... I must say that on the whole the methods and the terminology they use make me regard them as nutters....anyone that says that eating honey should be illegal as it is theft from bees, and that letting kids eat meat is making them murderers, isn't quite all there in my opinion.... :rolleyes:

Bassman

19-12-2004, 11:02 PM

is it because they don't start wars or kill each other?

many people believe animals are uncaring, but that is based on our own interpretation of caring, not that the human race has a very good record when it comes to caring.

Hey I'll have you know that I saw all that Planet of The Apes stuff, and you can't tell me that animals are caring, sharing, friendly cuddly things...didn't treat us very well when they were in control did they... bloody good job we kicked their backsides or they would probably be intensively rearing us...

Freak

19-12-2004, 11:28 PM

I eat meat.
I fish and also catch the odd crayfish (I eat what I catch if its of a useful size)
I have kept rabbits and chickens in the past for eating.
I've also kept Bees for honey.
I have picked up road kill including deer and monkjack.
I've eaten wild pigeon, duck, rook, crow, hare pheasant and partridge.
I've even kept and eaten the occasional pet cow or two.
I've had ferrets for rabbiting and hunted with dogs.
I spent most of my childhood learning about the ways and the wonders of the countryside from hedge laying. stone walling, building ponds, managing woodland to encouraging and preserving wildlife habitats in and around my village.
As much as I love my meat, there's no need to be cruel to it first.
Oh yeah, and being a vegetarian doesn't help one animal one bit, cause if you don't eat it, it just gets shot anyway.

Jonnyfp

19-12-2004, 11:52 PM

Oh yeah, and being a vegetarian doesn't help one animal one bit, cause if you don't eat it, it just gets shot anyway.
__________________

If i was to go into pre July mode i'd pose the question what if a lot more of us where veggies?
But i eat meat now so i can't really can i? :o

For the record P.E.T.A are in the same sort of business (showing there point in the form of protest i mean) as the Fathers for justice folk....they have a point to prove but are a lot worse at proving it than the FFJ lot.
Diggin folk up is not acceptable behaviour in any case of martyrdom.
Whereas dressin up as Batman is peachy in my book..lol
they should take a leaf from FFJ's book.

ooh started another argument. :o

Freak

19-12-2004, 11:57 PM

For the record P.E.T.A are in the same sort of business (showing there point in the form of protest i mean) as the Fathers for justice folk....they have a point to prove but are a lot worse at proving it than the FFJ lot.
Diggin folk up is not acceptable behaviour in any case of martyrdom.
Whereas dressin up as Batman is peachy in my book..lol
they should take a leaf from FFJ's book.

Sorry to do this J but I couldn't agree more with ya :D

Jonnyfp

20-12-2004, 12:01 AM

OMG i've got a reputation now..lmao!!!
I only post stuff i have an affinity with..WW2 fathers rights and personal experiences i spose..

But for the record i love trivia...i want to hear more of this ban fried egg sarnies malarky.. :D :D

3rd edit...and i never mean anything personal either. :)

dracken1

20-12-2004, 12:11 AM

johnny
there was no smiley because there is not an appropriete one.
i'm not angry with anyone.
just stating my feelings on the subject.

i was born and raised on our 350 acre farm and spent 20 years there. yes i used to shoot for pest control only. these days i only shoot those funny shaped birds (clay pigeons).
i am against animal testing, angora rabbits having thier eyes filled with bleach etc.
when the results could be found by testing on raw eggs.
i don't believe we have the right to test animals. i mean who the fuck are we to say whats right or wrong.
we are like a virus on this planet. we consume everything and put back naff all
no other animal is as destructive as us.

so i meant no offence to you johhny or your brother it's just one of the few subjects i feel deeply about.

;) there ya go a winky

Jonnyfp

20-12-2004, 12:18 AM

Poof... :D

understood bud no offense taken and i respect your view and mostly agree.
the smilie i was refering too was on my quote tho..you missed it off and when i looked at it minus the smilie it looked very callus, i did'nt mean it to be i was just tryin to lighten the mood. :(

Freak

20-12-2004, 08:27 AM

johnny

i was born and raised on our 350 acre farm and spent 20 years there. yes i used to shoot for pest control only. these days i only shoot those funny shaped birds (clay pigeons).
i am against animal testing, angora rabbits having thier eyes filled with bleach etc.
when the results could be found by testing on raw eggs.
i don't believe we have the right to test animals. i mean who the fuck are we to say whats right or wrong.
we are like a virus on this planet. we consume everything and put back naff all
no other animal is as destructive as us.

FFS :( Another well made point of view which I fully agree with. :D

Sir Ewok

20-12-2004, 11:57 AM

For the record P.E.T.A are in the same sort of business (showing there point in the form of protest i mean)

Much more similar to the IRA if the anti-PETA site is right. Anybody who has to kill to make a point, invalidates that point, in my view. Killing and death threats etc are not a political argument or even an ethical one, it is just bullying and cowardice.

I agree that animals should not be ill treated whether they are going to be eaten or kept as pets. Incidently I eat meat and enjoy it and feel no qualms about it. Animals eat other animals and with modern methods there is a lot less wastage.

Dougie

20-12-2004, 05:02 PM

Much more similar to the IRA if the anti-PETA site is right. Anybody who has to kill to make a point, invalidates that point, in my view. Killing and death threats etc are not a political argument or even an ethical one, it is just bullying and cowardice.
Nicely put.

technoboiler

20-12-2004, 05:11 PM

A friend says the same about Chickens. but she used to keep them, so it is, at least, a studied opinion....

would beg to differ, i kept chickens (hens that is) too and found them to be quite intelligent
for example, the broody hen i had hatched 5 chicks, the broody hen died after about a week and the chicks were left without the protection of a mother,
the next day when i let them out to feed etc and wander, another hen had adopted the chicks and was clucking around them protecting them and breaking their food into small enough pieces for them to eat....
She obviously worked out that the chicks couldnt survive without a mother so she took over,,,is this the action of a stupid animal?

dracken1

20-12-2004, 05:24 PM

fayji's mum cuts up his food into bite sized pieces. does that mean he can't manage? :confused:

plus i know for a fact that fayji is been used to test the effects of alcohol on the brain and legs.

should we liberate him???

nawwww sod it :D

technoboiler

20-12-2004, 05:25 PM

and jonny,,,,,,,,,you said u didnt like beef yet you were quite extatic at the spag bol i made you,,,,,didnt u know that was beef?...and the mince and dumplings u had several helpings of,,,was that just to pretend u were enjoying so as not to dissapoint? :p

shame on you for fibbing :confused:

dracken1

20-12-2004, 05:28 PM

you said u didnt like beef yet you were quite extatic at the spag bol i made you,,,,,didnt u know that was beef?...and the mince and dumplings u had several helpings of,,,was that just to pretend u were enjoying so as not to dissapoint?

johnny is a townie. he knows beef comes from asda and not from cows :D

Jonnyfp

20-12-2004, 05:32 PM

johnny is a townie. he knows beef comes from asda and not from cows :D

:D Don't make me do my taffy apple joke...lol

technoboiler

20-12-2004, 05:33 PM

can u explain your dislike for beef and huge appatite for spag bol and mince and dumplings plz jonny :p

technoboiler

20-12-2004, 05:34 PM

fek,,,all this talk,,,am starvin now,,,gotta go have a baked potatoe n cheese,,,,,lol,,, :p

technoboiler

20-12-2004, 05:35 PM

oh,,,,,and not forgetting the lasagne ,,,,u finished off 6 portions of that one farty pants....lol....once again,,,beef,,,,pmsl :D

Jonnyfp

20-12-2004, 05:44 PM

can u explain your dislike for beef and huge appatite for spag bol and mince and dumplings plz jonny :p

Just not keen on it as a meat chuck....i was'nt gonna say tho cos of the trouble gone thru....You know i love your dumplings...lol :o :D

technoboiler

20-12-2004, 05:52 PM

what a load of bollox.....u cant say you ate 6 portions of lasagne and u didnt enjoy it,,,,jeez u had 3 ,,one after the other...that aint the actions of someone not enjoying food
and as for the mince and dumplings,,,i have never seen anyone eat with such gusto so much in one go....you mr fp are full of the proverbial...own up you fekin loved the bloody stuff,, or why the fek would you go back 3 times for more,,,,3 of my dinner portions are not just coz ya hungry and dont wanna upset the cook,,3 is utter and undisputed hogness,,,,lol :eek:

Jonnyfp

20-12-2004, 05:54 PM

I am a starvin orphan and it was well made....and....there was more dumplins than beef...hogness??? lol
The stuffin was mighty fine too btw :D :D

blackhack

20-12-2004, 06:39 PM

my opinion of this is......

Cut its head off....wipe its arse.....and deep fat fry it......
(in batter preferablly)

Dougie

20-12-2004, 06:42 PM

So it's PETMB now then?
(People for the Ethical Treatment of Mars Bars)

sorry. :o

Miss Demeanour

20-12-2004, 08:16 PM

would beg to differ, i kept chickens (hens that is) too and found them to be quite intelligent
for example, the broody hen i had hatched 5 chicks, the broody hen died after about a week and the chicks were left without the protection of a mother,
the next day when i let them out to feed etc and wander, another hen had adopted the chicks and was clucking around them protecting them and breaking their food into small enough pieces for them to eat....
She obviously worked out that the chicks couldnt survive without a mother so she took over,,,is this the action of a stupid animal?

I've got no idea as to the intelligence of chickens - but then again, I don't eat them. I was just quoting what a chicken-eating friend said, as a humourous point.

Doro

20-12-2004, 08:28 PM

I was a veg until the 3B's do this year

anything to do with those giant plates of spare ribs on sale????????

scrummy, very cheap too

gypsy says you were still a veg at the end of sat night/sun morning ha ha

*def wasn't me saying that*

blackhack

20-12-2004, 08:57 PM

Enough! Enough!......Please No More !!

If you like it?..... eat it...if you dont?...Dont!

Miss Demeanour

20-12-2004, 08:59 PM

Enough! Enough!......Please No More !!

If you like it?..... eat it...if you dont?...Dont!

if you don't like it, don't read it!

Grav

20-12-2004, 09:37 PM

oh,,,,,and not forgetting the lasagne ,,,,u finished off 6 portions of that one farty pants....lol....once again,,,beef,,,,pmsl :D

A PROPER Lasagne is made with minced lamb.

Bassman

20-12-2004, 09:46 PM

Lets keep the balance eh?

technoboiler

20-12-2004, 09:56 PM

A PROPER Lasagne is made with minced lamb.

AINT YOU thinking about mussaka instead? :D

blackhack

20-12-2004, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Miss Demeanour
if you don't like it, don't read it!

HANDBAGS AT DAWN!!!!...... BITCHY-BITCHY...............:)

well I wont know if I DO like it, untill I read it ......

Grav

20-12-2004, 11:34 PM

AINT YOU thinking about mussaka instead? :D

Nope, thats Greek.

Proper Lasagne is layers of minced lamb in tomato and herb sauce, pasta and parmesan cheese.

Gently brown off in a large shallow frying pan, approx 8 oz of minced lamb in a little olive oil.

Add 4 chopped tomatoes and some chopped chives and/or coriander and simmer for a few moments. you may add a small pinch of salt and a little black pepper if you wish, but only a little bit. some folk also add a small finely chopped onion, but not me.

Lightly oil a dish and cover bottom with a thin layer of lamb and tomato and cover with a layer of fresh pasta.

Repeat until dish is full and cover top layer of pasta with Parmesan cheese and sling it in the middle of your oven on gas mk 5 for 20 minutes.

Grav
I can cook, me.

technoboiler

20-12-2004, 11:52 PM

well,,,,been cooking lasagne for the best part of twenty years and never got one recipe which used lamb.... :confused:

Jonnyfp

21-12-2004, 12:00 AM

6 portions over a weekend!!

your makin me out to be a right bloater...pmsl

Grav

21-12-2004, 12:04 AM

Well, you have now techno. There's so many different recipes for Lasagne that its become a sort of "bung it in" type dish these days. Lots of folk use whatever meat they fancy and there are several veggie Lasagne recipes too, but the traditional recipe uses lamb.

Jonny is a bloater, Jonny is a bloater :D

Friar Tuck

21-12-2004, 07:08 AM

....we are 'designed' to eat game, esp the variety that we have to chase first......
I'm on a chase! Are you game?

Jonnyfp

21-12-2004, 12:11 PM

Nope...your on the game.. :D

Bassman

21-12-2004, 04:37 PM

Despite many people not agreeing with the goals of PETA, you have to admit they are very skilled at gaining publicity in the press.
Here's the latest.....(from ananova.com)

Peta send tofu and veggie burgers to cannibal

Germany's self-confessed cannibal killer Armin Meiwes has been sent a vegetarian cookbook and

a Christmas hamper full of veggie burgers and tofu.

Animals rights group Peta (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) is behind the stunt and says it would be a major coup if it could convert Meiwes to vegetarianism.

Meiwes is on trial for killing, dismembering and eating the flesh of another man.

He has admitted killing and eating his victim, but denies it was murder. Peta is hoping the mouth-watering recipes in the book and the hamper of vegetarian foods will persuade him to mend his ways.

The vegetarian starter kit was sent to Meiwes' prison cell in the town of Kassel, where the trial is taking place.

Peta spokesman Juergen Faulmann said: "What this man did to a German computer expert is done to other creatures every day.

"The cruel scenario of slaughtering, cutting up, portioning, freezing and eating of body parts is the grim reality for more than 450 million sentient individuals that are killed in this country every year."

"People who eat meat feel disgusted by human flesh. Vegetarians feel disgusted by any sort of meat."