trikes at rallies

[kiffer38]

just reading on another forum, that some people seem to think trikes should be banned from rallies, just wondering what the thoughts are of people on here?
i ride a trike out of necessity for my disabled girlfriend to be able to still enjoy rallies without resorting to going by car, which i will not do ! !
:confused:

[slightlymuddy]

this was my reply in the other forum
far as i'm concerned all the people i know on trikes are the same as the people i know on bikes and the rallies are I believe for like minded people. cars are definately not bikes , trikes are bikes with an extra wheel. as for size, where do you draw the line? I have seen some very small trikes and some very long bikes. the custom shows have categories for both in most cases so entry conditions and charges should be the same for both. my daughter loves rallies and bikes but feels she would be a disaster riding her own bike and it would be much safer to go for a trike. that way she still does rallies and feels a part of things which she definately dosn't in a car.

[saxman]

just reading on another forum, that some people seem to think trikes should be banned from rallies,:

http://www.bikersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=22448

Is this the thread you mean,
I cant see where the poster says 'ALL' trikes should be banned'

:rolleyes:

[GreatBritishRob]

I'll add my answer i added there.
Simple innit. Bike based trikes are Trikes. Car based 3 wheelers are 3 wheelers and should be treated as cars.
Not saying ban either as they do have a place for people who are disabled etc etc but some of these monstrosities that are basically just a car with a wheel missing have no more to do with the bike scene than a 3 wheeled Morgan or Robin Reliant etc.
Thing that makes me laugh about the bike scene/ rally scene is someone on a bike with a race fairing etc well get less respect than someone on a car based trike. It doesnt seem like a bike scene to me anymore, its as someone already said, a festival scene.

[gothtec]

I like trikes, but some do take the piss... Taking the bodywork off a Robin Reliant is just not on..

[eigerton]

no problem with 'em, as long as they're not used to import feral kids

[Dougie]

Trikes at rallies are fine by me!

[Jus1]

trikes good by me n all - not over keen on car engined one's - but all things to all people... Rode a trike for 1st time couple of months back ....

yeah .. you can keep that :D

[Freak]

Ban all trikes
Keep the unabled away from rallies

[Taff]

Methinks tis just Abbs being mischevious, and trying to liven up that forum the cheeky monkey;

I fkin hate trikes.
Should they be allowed at rallies?
Course they ******* should.
I also hate plastic race rep blow up beach bikes ridden by nonces in full multi coloured leather pyjamas and helmets that cost as much as a weekend in Europe.
Should they be banned from rallies as well?
Probably, yes, the puffs, but that'd just be the beginning of the end by our own hand.
Cant judge 'em all by the irritating habits of most of 'em, or i wouldn't be allowed in any-fkin-where.
Let 'em in, if they piss you off, get 'em out.

[Mitch]

he's got a habit of winding folk up! :D

[John Hopkins]

Live and let live..one day I'll be too old to ride a bike, Maybe I'll go to a trike then...maybe not.. :) John

I hope I'm never to old for a wind up... :D

[Dougie]

Live and let live..one day I'll be too old to ride a bike, Maybe I'll go to a trike then...maybe not.. :) John
What d'you mean ONE day? :p :p

[John Hopkins]

What d'you mean ONE day? :p :p

Cheeky young pup.... :D John

[Worjorj]

no problem with 'em, as long as they're not used to import feral kidsHit the nail on the head there, Eigerton

[kitkatman]

Says the 2 with the combined age of the earth.....lol


as for trikes......not a problem in my eyes

[critch]

got to agree with taff

think abbs is being a cheeky young scamp... :D

however some of the replies on that site are the work of the simple minded....

bike trikes this, car trikes that.....,some of the most stunning trikes ive ever seen are reliant based....

www.mankymonkeymotors.co.uk

not biased at all me....

[Mental Dave]

"It's very simple if you aint got a bike then you aint a biker. If you'd rather breed or what ever dont blame me for your choice or say I got to have a car for the kids. Make the little bstards walk I say. you are responcible for your own situation so dont look for excuses or some one else to blame.

If you really want a bike you'll get of your lazy dole benefit sucking arses and earn enough to get any bike even a CB250N is still a bike..."

Oh that made me very angry, I had a stomp about for a few then came back there have been many times in my life when I've been bikeless, for a variaty of reasons, When my daughter was born I lived in the middle of no where had to sell the bike to get a car, I wasnt on the dole just skint as most people are when they first have a kid, telling me I'm not a biker cos I aint got a bike is likely to get you bitch slapped if said to my face, I did consider posting on there but I'm not gonna bother with em, It aint worth it.
And as for trikes I love em, I've had one. I still prefer a bike but isnt part of being a biker about freedom of choice?? Just my humble opinion.

[kiffer38]

http://www.bikersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=22448

Is this the thread you mean,
I cant see where the poster says 'ALL' trikes should be banned'

:rolleyes:
im sure some people need go back to school and learn to read ! did i say everybody wants ALL TRIKES BANNED ? no i didnt, i said SOME PEOPLE want to see trikes banned !!!!!

"post edited to keep the peace"

[Jus1]

well it seems to be for TWATS who aint got the sense to be able to even dribble for themselves, there are a few decent people on there, but its spoilt by the total tossers that take up anothers breathing space, and i wont be posting there from now on


I only post here ...there's enough of ya to bounce off, good pi55 takin, fair jokes good advise and all that ... a genuine fair mix of different types IMO :cool:

[kitkatman]

I only post here ...there's enough of ya to bounce off, good pi55 takin, fair jokes good advise and all that ... a genuine fair mix of different types IMO :cool:
pisstaking here...where :D

[Jus1]

pisstaking here...where :D


is this your cage "rattle" springs to mind ;) :D

[Yambabe]

*Innocent*

Kiffer, can you expain to me the difference for someone not riding it between sitting on a bike and sitting on a trike? Bearing in mind the likes of sissy bars. arm rests, lap belts etc that can be adapted onto a pillion seat?

:)

[kiffer38]

*Innocent*

Kiffer, can you expain to me the difference for someone not riding it between sitting on a bike and sitting on a trike? Bearing in mind the likes of sissy bars. arm rests, lap belts etc that can be adapted onto a pillion seat?

:)
what you on about?

[Yambabe]

Well you say you ride a trike so you can take your g/f to rallies yeah?

So she isn't riding the trike, she's just sat on the back. I've not got much personal experience of trikes so I was just wondering how different it is to sit on the back of a trike than the back of a bike. Surely both involve just, erm, sitting? :confused:

[Yambabe]

Incidentally, I like bike-engined trikes but I'm not so keen on these big lardy car-engined ones and I can see the point that was being made on the original thread.

If you're going to let a car-engined trike with all its attendnt gubbins camp on a rally field that might have restricted space, why not let cars in as well? And just be honest and say it's not a rally it's a festival?

[saxman]

Methinks tis just Abbs being mischevious, and trying to liven up that forum the cheeky monkey;

Really ? thats terrible that is.

:eek:

[kiffer38]

Well you say you ride a trike so you can take your g/f to rallies yeah?

So she isn't riding the trike, she's just sat on the back. I've not got much personal experience of trikes so I was just wondering how different it is to sit on the back of a trike than the back of a bike. Surely both involve just, erm, sitting? :confused:
my girlfriend has an illness that means she cannot balance on a pillion bike seat, my trike has a bench seat with seat belts, balance isnt an issue with a bench seat, so before you go running me down, and saying i should be banned from rallies, you go tell my misses she cant go because through no fault of her own, she has an illness that will eventually kill her !!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: and when that time comes, you wont need to worry about us taking up your precious space at rally sites so you can let your little ferral kids ride mini motos around to their hearts content . im sorry but this issue realy is getting me pissed off !

[Yambabe]

Wind your neck in, this isn't supposed to be personal. :rolleyes:

FYI I have never taken a child - feral or otherwise - to a rally (that's a whole other can of worms, shall we have a new thread? :D ) and I don't own a mini-moto :p

So in effect if your pillion seat had a backrest, armrests and a lapbelt she could manage just the same was the point I was making.

I have no idea what sort of trike you ride and to be honest I don't care. But if it's the equivalent size and shape of a car I see no reason why you shouldn't be charged a car parking fee to take it to a bike rally, do you? Especially one where camping space may be restricted and a no-cars policy in place.

Or should the event not be described as a bike rally? In which case why discriminate, why not just call it what it is (festival, gathering, vehicle rally) and let every bugger in no matter what they ride or drive?

[Jus1]

Trikes have been at every show and rally I been to since I started going ... sh1t anyone remember that little white C90 trike in the Kent show... :D that was cool

Kiffer .. don't let it piss ya off, I got mates that are bikers that can no longer ride bikes because of varying degree's of illness and or bad accidents they all still there, all still partying and NOW carrying the tents and beers for us.

They will never be banned on rally sites regardless .... so it don't matter really ;)

[kiffer38]

Trikes have been at every show and rally I been to since I started going ... sh1t anyone remember that little white C90 trike in the Kent show... :D that was cool

Kiffer .. don't let it piss ya off, I got mates that are bikers that can no longer ride bikes because of varying degree's of illness and or bad accidents they all still there, all still partying and NOW carrying the tents and beers for us.

They will never be banned on rally sites regardless .... so it don't matter really ;)
im sorry, but when i get slagged off on fookin sites like this it REALY RUBS ME THE WRONG WAY, i hate trikes,this is the first 1 i have had, but i aint going to give up taking my missis to rallies, through her illness, or through some whinging cnuts who would speak to ya one min, then as soon as ya backs turned they start wanting you banned from rallies, its not about being banned from rallies or not, its about be classed as some1 being made to feel like an inconvenience, or having less right to be at a rally :mad:

[Yambabe]

:rolleyes: pm sent. but I'll repeat it again here.

THIS IS NOT PERSONAL!

Your individual circumstances are totally irrelevant and you are way, way over-reacting. No-one has advocated banning trikes from bike rallies that I can see, but some people have suggested that where cars are banned for space reasons or are allowed but in seperate parking then maybe that argument should also apply to car-sized trikes, especially those with trailers and caravans attached.

I've yet to hear a logical argument against that proposal......... :p

Alternatively the event should no longer be billed as a bike rally and be open to all on a first-come-first-served basis........?

Now about these kids....... ;)

[Jus1]

Yeah .. wrote that earlier meself... got a few in our club, so I asked one of the girlies if I could have a go !! I got end of the road .. left ..200yds turned around come back got off ..YOURS!!! never riding one of them (famous last words)

our Prez's wife can't go on back of bikes, so he got a reliant trike and trailer tent .... but also doesnt give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut what anyone says about it.. and nor should you mucka - as a club, the majority of rallies (esp the smaller, less space ones) we are "invited" and requested to .... not and never had organisers asking us not to bring trikes!!

I reckon someone parked up next to a group of mates and they couldn't pitch near by so got all pissy about it .... hehehehe ...fook em!!!

dont like car engine trikes me self as per earlier post, but still seen some that are awesome ... I think FYP 05 there was a green Honda 2.2Vtec trike ... NABD rider ... looked amazing ... and I bet was a rocket ship !!!!!

and I think there it is on the nose .... N A B D

[Jus1]

Alternatively the event should no longer be billed as a bike rally and be open to all on a first-come-first-served basis........?

May I ask what your take is on disabled bikers, that being people like you and me that come off, knocked off, Illness and can no longer ride, but CAN ride a trike?

[Yambabe]

Good on them for getting back out there and doing what they love would just about sum it up I think.

[Jus1]

exactly ... and should always be welcome at every rally!

From Yoda's site ......

" Being disabled does not mean you have to give up biking or the lifestyle, it does mean you will have to make changes. What those changes are will depend on what your disabilty is, and maybe something as little as a minor modification to your bike/trike will suffice or even a complete new vehicle to suit your disability, these are on top of the logistical problems of coping on a rally site.
now I understand that there is an uproar about cars going to rallies. but if it means I can still enjoy the lifestyle and be with my friends then I dont care what peoples opinions are. I personally would love to ride my trike to each and every rally, but alas my health does not always allow it "

[Kingo]

I have a trike it has a VW engine, the reason I have it (not that I have to give a reason) is that I am to old and disabled to hold a bike up anymore :(
And nothing anyone says is going to stop me. :)
If you look on the my trike thread you can see it for yourself.
As for ABB he does like a bit of a windup now and again. :D

[skida]

I think there has been some selective reading of posts on BW and on here. The original poster was on about able-bodied drivers/passengers of trikes and not those who had a physical need to use trikes.

Yes, there have always been trikes at bike rallies, but nowadays they are a lot more popular among able-bodied people who maybe don't like just taking the basics for camping.

Even a big rally like Stormin' can run into difficulties with space availability and I remember the commitee, a few years ago, having to run cap in hand to Witton Estate to hire some extra space (at an inflated price, of course).

Whatever your opinion about this is, rally organisers cannot continue to ignore the situation. I have been going to rallies now for nearly ten years and I have noticed quite a growth of trike numbers in that time.

Maybe space limited rallies will have to intoduce a limited number of trike spaces, which need to be booked in advance so that they can be assured that there is enough space for the number of ticket holders. Priority, of course to those who need to go by trike.

[Yambabe]

Ah now you see if I was in a really argumentative mood I could take issue with that cos not every rally site is suitable for certain disabilities for access reasons........ ;)


....but I've already upset Kiffer by making him think I was wanting to ban him and his g/f from rallies when in fact nothing could be further from the truth so I'll not go there huh?

Nobody want to argue the toss about the kids again though? Shame on you :D and I'm soooo bored this afternoon............ :o

(that was in response to Jus btw)

[Jus1]

I was a nipper at rallies :D ... now been going for over 25years !!!
agree space is a consideration, NO CARS is a good rule (except disabled badges)
- but where to draw the line?? .. at MC Rottum this weekend 2 full dressed Harleys with trailers ... slimmer than a trike but just as long?!

We have over 1800 people at our rally ... camper vans, cars by prior arrangement ONLY, We just do not have the space ... if we ban the trikes though, we could have a few more cars in :p

Trikers are Bikers (and they carry BEERS very very well)

[Yambabe]

I- but where to draw the line?? ..

That's the thing isn't it?

We can all hold an opinion and spout off to our hearts content about it but unless you're going to issue the gate marshalls with tape measures and send eberyone to camp in regimented lines according to the size of their bike/trike/car/tank (and woe betide if your tent isn't regulation size for your vehicle!) we'll all probably just continue to shout about it on internet forums and nothing much will change........

[Kylie]

Hmm Abb - light the touch paper and stand clear :D

[Dougie]

Ban all bikes and trikes better looking than mine!Hell I'd be on my own in the field then........ :rolleyes:

[Captain Smurf]

That's the thing isn't it?

We can all hold an opinion and spout off to our hearts content about it but unless you're going to issue the gate marshalls with tape measures and send eberyone to camp in regimented lines according to the size of their bike/trike/car/tank (and woe betide if your tent isn't regulation size for your vehicle!) we'll all probably just continue to shout about it on internet forums and nothing much will change........Yeaaah

and what about Goldwings

[hermann]

Yes, there have always been trikes at bike rallies, but nowadays they are a lot more popular among able-bodied people who maybe don't like just taking the basics for camping.

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See this is the real issue to me. Its not trikes, I have one, my dad has one, my best mate has one. What seems to have changed over the years is the amount of kit that people bring. Gazebos, small caravans, double beds, kitchen sink etc. I dont really mind either way but I think that trikes open up the oppurtunity to carry more stuff which can take up more space. Granted the bike scene is, how can I say this politely, more mature now and people may find camping in a wet field a lot a harder work but some of the camps we've seen have been more luxurious than my bedroom at home. I'm not saying that tent size should be enforced or everyone limited to a certain sized pitch just a lot of people seem to bring a hell of a lot of kit for a weekend away. ;)

[Freak]

Well Hermann, what do you expect, there are a lot more woman at rallies these days.

[hermann]

Well Hermann, what do you expect, there are a lot more woman at rallies these days.
But that just means there's something soft and comfy to lay your head on ;)

[Lone-Wolf]

See this is the real issue to me. Its not trikes, I have one, my dad has one, my best mate has one. What seems to have changed over the years is the amount of kit that people bring. Gazebos, small caravans, double beds, kitchen sink etc. I'm not saying that tent size should be enforced or everyone limited to a certain sized pitch just a lot of people seem to bring a hell of a lot of kit for a weekend away. ;)

Wotcha.

For what it's worth, my tent takes up more room than the "Dog Kennel" which I drag behind the trike.

As for bringing a lot of kit - an old Black Country saying goes like this
"Any fool can rough it" :)

Back in 1984, when I used to run an old BSA M21 sidevalve outfit, most of our club members were taking the piss over my trailer. ( except when they wanted me to take their tent, air bed, food, beer, seats, Missus, etc, )
"Everything except the kitchen sink" was the usual cry.
The first thing I unpacked at the Griffin Rally was four lengths of broom stale, which I knocked into the ground at carefully placed positions . . . . . then took the stainless steel kitchen sink unit out of the trailer and set it on its 'legs'. :D It was still there when I left :eek:

[hermann]

Wotcha.

For what it's worth, my tent takes up more room than the "Dog Kennel" which I drag behind the trike.

As for bringing a lot of kit - an old Black Country saying goes like this
"Any fool can rough it" :)

Back in 1984, when I used to run an old BSA M21 sidevalve outfit, most of our club members were taking the piss over my trailer. ( except when they wanted me to take their tent, air bed, food, beer, seats, Missus, etc, )
"Everything except the kitchen sink" was the usual cry.
The first thing I unpacked at the Griffin Rally was four lengths of broom stale, which I knocked into the ground at carefully placed positions . . . . . then took the stainless steel kitchen sink unit out of the trailer and set it on its 'legs'. :D It was still there when I left :eek: :D
When I first went to a rally in 92 it was before I could ride, I had an old lid hitched down getting lifts on bikes and slept in a sleeping bag and a bivvie bag. A few years ago we had a coffin style tent which I couldn't sit up in. Now we have a reasonable size tent that packs into two panniers, has enough space for clothes and I have a bit of stuff strapped across the bars. Ask me again in ten years may have changed my mind again

[Alice]

Well Hermann, what do you expect, there are a lot more woman at rallies these days.

Which brings me nicely on to my next topic for discussion...... ;)

Abb
Some people are Sooo touchy.

[The Beer Monsters]

Which brings me nicely on to my next topic for discussion...... ;)

AbbThat would have worked really well if you weren't posting using Aly's login :eek:

Daft cnut :D