Madeline Mc Cann

[cherryB]

On our local news tonight there was a snippet that they are questioning the McCans about their possible involvement in Madelines abduction :eek: :eek:
I said all along there was something funny about this case. Did anyone else hear it?

[skida]

If it was what was on the news earlier, they were asked by a german journalist if they were involved in her disappearance and apparently they were very angry/upset about it. I don't think it is the police who are questioning them, especially as I believe they are in Amsterdam at the moment.

[adamkilledeve]

yeah i did,

i alway thourt that thay ether did it them selfs or some evil twat has her in marroco coz its ther nearst counrty that you can get away with things.still hopeing she found safe though x

[Juke]

My first thought was that the father had done it.
Sad I know, but he has always appeared so unaffected by it all.

Poor wee thing.
Hope she didn't, or isnt suffering too bad.......... :(

[skida]

Here is the news:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20070606/twl-mccanns-issue-angry-denial-41f21e0_1.html

[kitkatman]

Id love her to be found safe and well and unhurt and i have always thought that there was something wrong somewher with this, hope i am very wrong on that bit, but i know the parents want their plight to be highlighted everywhere, but this is turning into a world tour!

[adamkilledeve]

remember that freak Ian huntley though, everyone thought he was innocent an he killed those girls, u cant trust people these days

[kitkatman]

Shame no ones killed that wanker yet, but i can see what your heading at.........people say it cant happen, then you read about the city slicker at the beginning of the week who battered his 2 year old because the voices told him to.......wtf is wrong with these people

[adamkilledeve]

I'm gonna say that there all bi polar an off the wall
the people that hurt children shouldn't be allowed to live

[kitkatman]

They should be allowed to die, very slowly and painfully, a 3-4 day event like

[paulthestall]

child murderers or abusers are worse than bike thieves....an all deserve death :(

[adamkilledeve]

i think it should be a celebrated death. i used to work with people like that and there's no fixing them. once there that way, it for life.

[cherryB]

They should be allowed to die, very slowly and painfully, a 3-4 day event like

yeah and make it a public event :eek:
But I do think the parents know something - theres just too much money involved and it stinks. the cash aint gonna replace her and I just cant see any logic in the way its all going. How the feck is their tour helping to find her????? I'm sure I would'nt be galivanting all over europe if my child was missing. I'd be sitting by the phone in case there was any news and I would look like ****e and unfit to be seen in public. Normal people would be just too distraught for all this public appearance ****.

In his press conference he said ' we didnt function for 2 or 3 days' :eek: WTF..... I'd wouldnt function till she was found and most people would feel the same.

[kitkatman]

Thats what i find very very stange, the selling of t-shirts the visit to the pope, the money collecting, its somehow very wrong and fucked up, its like their is a piece of the jigsaw missing and i have a hunch it will suddenly rear its ugly head, because at the end of the day, everyone has their price

[adamkilledeve]

i agree with kkm and chrreyb, there's something going on with the rents, there a little to carm, not worried enough and are to willing and not upset enough. we will probably find that months from now that the rents killed her and hid her. personally hoping that find her safe and well.


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[kitkatman]

i agree with kkm and chrreyb, there's something going on with the rents, there a little to carm, not worried enough and are to willing and not upset enough. we will probably find that months from now that the rents killed her and hid her. personally hoping that find her safe and well.


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i am going on the theory that i wouldnt be quite as calm and collective as them and be a complete and utter raging loonatic

[The Beer Monsters]

On behalf of the moderators, I would like to reiterate that all views are those of the individual posters and not necessarily those of 100%.

The McCanns are of course at this time completely innocent and any speculation is merely that.

[Grav]

Well said that man.

[adamkilledeve]

i don't reckon shes in Portugal any more, i reckon they would have taken her to morocco because its an easy way to smuggle people across the border. believe it or not, a lot of peeps with blond hair are kidnapped coz there hair looks like sunshine and can be sold for a lot of money. wouldn't be surprised if that's whats happened to her. just hope she gets given back to her rents.

[skida]

I don't think it was the parents. I think they were VERY wrong in leaving the kids alone in the apartment.

I think that due to the proximity of the marina and the lack of any trace of Madeleine that she was taken away in a boat. I hope that she is still alive and will be found, but I fear that there will be no happy ending.

[cherryB]

I just have a gut feeling that she is alive and well somewhere!!!! I seriously do. The sad thing is though that so many little 4 year olds look like the pictures of her (except for her eye), so findin her is very hard. But I do think she will be found alive. I hope so anyway.

[Jim]

Those poor people made ONE very stupid mistake which they may have to live with through the rest of their lives.
But rather than turn into hysterical wrecks or vengeful ranters they have stayed strong and gone beyond normal levels in order to try and do something to get their little one back.
I have enormous respect for them. I just get a little pissed off with the conspiracy theories. I know every one has an opinion but I really don't beleive they are guilty.
As for the chances of getting her back alive ? We can but hope.

[John Hopkins]

I just hope someone is looking after her...If I believed in a god I would pray for her...because I can't think of any practical way to help.....but I certainly wouldn't let any of my other children out of my sight no matter how much money I was making or losing...

[Freak]

They were asked by a german journalist if they were involved in her disappearance and apparently they were very angry/upset about it.

I don't think it was an unfair question as some of the general public (rightly or wrongly) have been suggesting it for a while now. As for them being angry/upset, well I saw the interview on Sky, they looked neither shocked angry or upset although I don't think Mrs McCann answered the question in the context it was asked, but he certainly did and was very, VERY calm in his answer.

[GreatBritishRob]

I can only speak from a personal view, sorry about that. When summat traumatic happens aparantly i shut down, get very calm, non emotional etc etc. It caused a few words between me and Dawn last year.
Im sure im not the only one thats like that, both the McCanns could be like that.
I hope the little lass is ok and i hope all these conspiracy theories etc are unfounded. I'd hate to think what kind of people could do this just for attention so i'll stick with the fact that she has been abducted and its all going to end on a good note.

[Mistress Maker]

everyone deals with grief in a different way .....and lets face it if something like this happens it WOULD be grief .....but just I,m not sure about the whole thing.

I DO sincerely hope that Maddie will be found alive .......but if she is I dread to think what that poor wee baby has been through and how she will cope with whats happened to her

[johnr]

everyone handles it differently, and whatever the rights and wrongs of what they did, im uncomfortable at the apparent willingness of many people to turn this into a witch hunt against the parents, what else are they to do? sit and cry all day? name one other news story from the day that kid was snatched? can you? if not, its cos those news storys have been allowed to drop out of the public eye, the parents of this kid have tried theior hardest to keep this story in the news, cos thats the only way they have any chance of seeing their child again. its a difficult tightrope to walk, but is anyone saying that they think that the mccanns are doing too much to try and find their daughter? how can you do too much? personally i would go to the ends of the earth if it were my daughter, so them racking up the miles in publicising the case isnt any surprise to me.

[gothtec]

I can only speak from a personal view, sorry about that. When summat traumatic happens aparantly i shut down, get very calm, non emotional etc etc.

So do I especialy when there's something I can do, I become an organiser...

Its like being an ancher and its appreciated by those that are not, as they find solice in you being a rock.

Stiff upperlip and all that... made the british empire.

[cherryB]

everyone handles it differently, and whatever the rights and wrongs of what they did, im uncomfortable at the apparent willingness of many people to turn this into a witch hunt against the parents, what else are they to do? sit and cry all day? name one other news story from the day that kid was snatched? can you? if not, its cos those news storys have been allowed to drop out of the public eye, the parents of this kid have tried theior hardest to keep this story in the news, cos thats the only way they have any chance of seeing their child again. its a difficult tightrope to walk, but is anyone saying that they think that the mccanns are doing too much to try and find their daughter? how can you do too much? personally i would go to the ends of the earth if it were my daughter, so them racking up the miles in publicising the case isnt any surprise to me.


I dont agree - they have enough family who can do the touring thing to keep it in the public eye. Their other children must be feeling bewildered - they have suddenly lost a sister and their parents have gone galivanting. It would have more credence if they had the babies with them. As a mother I KNOW, I would not let my other babies out of my sight and I would want to be close to the investigation in case of news.

[The Beer Monsters]

None of us are the McCann's. Whilst we can all say "I'd have done X" or "I wouldn't let Y happen" and we can argue the rights and wrongs of options X and Y, it's not really a positive thing.

Let them deal with it the way they want to deal with it.

You can all get your "I told you so" cards out when the issue is over.

[johnr]

I dont agree - they have enough family who can do the touring thing to keep it in the public eye. Their other children must be feeling bewildered - they have suddenly lost a sister and their parents have gone galivanting. It would have more credence if they had the babies with them. As a mother I KNOW, I would not let my other babies out of my sight and I would want to be close to the investigation in case of news.

galivanting? oh yeah, im sure they are having a right fucking laugh jetting round europe,

[Fran]

It is a strange case,but maybe it's strange because usually the story would have dropped off the news headlines by now.The parents do come across as very in control of their emotions but maybe that's because they're a doctor & a surgeon,probably used to dealing with harrowing matters.They can hold it together stay a bit detached in public & let it all out in private. :confused: (just a possibility)
One idea out there in the media is that she was taken for ransom but the kidnapper has panicked as he/she didn't expect it to explode like this.Whatever the truth is I hope they get her back.

[Jus1]

Newspaper today saying she was "snatched to order" by a gang of paedo's
I hope they are wrong I really do... :(

[cherryB]

Thats sickening thought!!! I dont suppose said newspaper has given their reason for making that statement.

I pray to God that she isnt in the hands of a pervert. At least IF she was kidnapped for a ransome and the kidnappers are now scared off, there is a minute chance that she is being looked after properly and then maybe she will get left somewhere where she can be found.

[John Hopkins]

With a £2,600,000 reward for information leading to her safe recovery..and the very low sentences handed out to paedophiles now, it is suprising that she hasn't been found....but I think we have all said enough or too much about this for now...speculation will not help...but the reward might...John

[lowrider]

With a £2,600,000 reward for information leading to her safe recovery..and the very low sentences handed out to paedophiles now, it is suprising that she hasn't been found....but I think we have all said enough or too much about this for now...speculation will not help...but the reward might...John
Well said mate ;)

[Mrs Reject]

If my son had been stolen as a sprog I'd have done the same - anything to keep the profile high even if it had taken the rest of my life.
Every parent makes mistakes - my kid could have been stolen on numerous occasions when I let him out to play in the close with his mates, the alternative is to have them stuck to you like glue 24/7 and for them to have no independence - there isn't a parent living who hasn't fucked up now and then!
As for paedos it should be medieval torture for them :(

[Sludge Van Diesel]

I hope with all my heart they do get her back, but I just can't get around the immense stupidity of 2 supposedly intelligent adults leaving their kids unattended like that.

[Lyn]

I hope with all my heart they do get her back, but I just can't get around the immense stupidity of 2 supposedly intelligent adults leaving their kids unattended like that.

In my opinion two inteligent people are probably also two very nieve people who work very hard so don't really get to see what is going on in the media.

But I am so confused by this and don't want to imagine that this has been done by her parents.

[Lyn]

I hope with all my heart they do get her back, but I just can't get around the immense stupidity of 2 supposedly intelligent adults leaving their kids unattended like that.

sat in a queue the other day and listened to a man in a suit having a convo with a lady in a suit about this subject......, "ok yah, but we often leave our children in the room when we dine out in the evening, when we were in disney land that's what we did every night" !!!

[skida]

If they had been in anyway involved it would have been in their interests to let all the hoohah die down. Instead I think they have been very canny in there use of the media, making sure the story stays in the news.

On the emotions side of things: they are doctors and probably have to deal highly emotional situations every working day. This probably makes it easier to remain rational. It doesn't mean they are not affected or not sad/worried/distraught.

I hope she is found alive and safe.

[Juke]

I hope they skin the scummish fukkas who took her, whoever they are........ :mad:

Of course, she could be safe and well, enjoying a prolonged holiday in the sun............ :)

[cherryB]

If my son had been stolen as a sprog I'd have done the same - anything to keep the profile high even if it had taken the rest of my life.
Every parent makes mistakes - my kid could have been stolen on numerous occasions when I let him out to play in the close with his mates, the alternative is to have them stuck to you like glue 24/7 and for them to have no independence - there isn't a parent living who hasn't fucked up now and then!
As for paedos it should be medieval torture for them :(


This is interesting isnt it??? I remember when we used to play outside in the street. No one ever thought we would get taken away. Its bloody sad how we have to live these days. I know bad things happened then and the media makes it all more public now but I'm positive that the dangers werent so great when I was a kid. But hey that was a few years ago!!

[skida]

This is interesting isnt it??? I remember when we used to play outside in the street. No one ever thought we would get taken away. Its bloody sad how we have to live these days. I know bad things happened then and the media makes it all more public now but I'm positive that the dangers werent so great when I was a kid. But hey that was a few years ago!!

TV, internet and cars. Kids don't play out as much. No-one walks anywhere. So there aren't many people out and about on foot. This means dodgy people aren't spotted and there are less witnesses if someone dodgy does something.

When I was a kid, I knew the names of just about every family within three streets of mine. Adults talked to each other in bus queues and at the local shops. You knew what was going on. There is less sense of community now. :(

[bird]

Don't make the mistake of thinking this is a modern phenomenon.
I do the 100 years ago column for the local paper and the number of court cases which feature men in court for lewd behaviour with young girls is astonishing - it seems the biggest danger for girls was in railway carriages.
Family members also often ended up before the assizes for similar offences against young female relatives.

The biggest danger to a young kid these days, sadly, is not from random strangers, but from relatives, fathers and step fathers.

Whats at fault? the sexualisation of young girls at far too early an age? The titillating articles in the tabloids?

Of course back in 1907 you'd get five years on Dartmoor with hard labour.
Whether that would put people off these days, I dunno. But its worth a try.

Either that or public castrations might do it.

[Freak]

Don't make the mistake of thinking this is a modern phenomenon.
I do the 100 years ago column for the local paper and the number of court cases which feature men in court for lewd behaviour with young girls is astonishing - it seems the biggest danger for girls was in railway carriages.
Family members also often ended up before the assizes for similar offences against young female relatives.

The biggest danger to a young kid these days, sadly, is not from random strangers, but from relatives, fathers and step fathers.

Whats at fault? the sexualisation of young girls at far too early an age? The titillating articles in the tabloids?

Of course back in 1907 you'd get five years on Dartmoor with hard labour.
Whether that would put people off these days, I dunno. But its worth a try.

Either that or public castrations might do it.

Every community had it's 'You stay away from him'
The biggest change these days is nobody knows who they are

[guydewdney]

I was just going to say - same sh1t, different decade....

I was talking to a newpaper ed t'otehr day - they told me this sh1t happens virtually every day - its just when a) its a slow news day and b ) the kid / mum / dad etc is photogenic that it makes it to the cover... sad, but true.

[Gazza695]

i really feel sorry for the poor little girl being a recent father of my little daughter but i also feel that with the circunstances of leaving them on their own in an apartment whilst going out for a meal even though they were checking up on them regularly (which i couldnt dream of doing) i think the media is unfair cos if it was a single parent scally from salford then the media wold be jumping on the bandwagon of how she is such a bad mother etc etc but because they are supposedly 'respectable' people due to their proffession then the media shows somuch support, not saying that is wrong but they should be fair no matter what their background. Hope the little darling is ok.

Gaz :(

[The Beer Monsters]

i think the media is unfair cos if it was a single parent scally from salford then the media wold be jumping on the bandwagon of how she is such a bad mother etc etc but because they are supposedly 'respectable' people due to their proffession then the media shows somuch supportIndeed Gaz,

The world is run by the media. Unfortunately far too many people believe everything that's put in front of them BY the media and can't think for themselves.

[Taff]

True.
Vote for who ya like, this country's controlled by Rupert Murdoch and the likes.
They don't want somebody in 'power' and all it takes is the gutter press to focus on a percieved speech impediment or funny hairdo and hammer it until the vote balance is swayed.