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EARL PEEL TABLES PARLIAMENTARY QUESTIONS ON YORKSHIRE MOTORBIKE MENACE
Yorkshire-based peer Earl Peel has tabled three Parliamentary Questions in the House of Lords relating to the noise and danger caused by motorcycles in the area. This move follows meetings with the pressure group BAND (Bilsdale Against Noise and Danger) who have been campaigning over the growing threat to the North York Moors from the great numbers of speeding bikers attracted to its roads.
A spokesman for BAND said: "Lord Peel knows this area well, and he is very aware of just how serious the problem has become. He sees the real dangers posed by these speeding bikes as an immediate and real threat to the local community, but he is also very concerned about the impact on the farming community and their livestock, and on tourism to the area. "
The BAND spokesman added that the Campaign was also delighted that one of Earl Peel's Questions addressed the specific issue of illegally modified motorbikes. "This is a major problem in its own right. A very high proportion of these speeding bikers have fitted illegal "racing cans" which increase bike noise to the point where engine howl can be heard for several miles across the Park. Noise pollution is a serious environmental issue. The North York Moors National Park is a haven of peace and beauty and must be protected from this kind of illegal pollution."
The Questions tabled by Lord Peel are :
1) To ask Her Majesty's Government what action they plan to take to
investigate the adverse effects on residents, visitors and livestock from speeding
by motorcyclists in the North Yorkshire Moors and the Yorkshire Dales National
Parks. (HL2934)
2) To ask Her Majesty's Government what action they plan to take to
tackle motorcyclists in the North Yorkshire Moors and the Yorkshire Dales National
Parks who adapt their motorcycles to increase their engine noise. (HL2935)
3) To ask Her Majesty's Government what were the total costs of
operating the North Yorkshire air ambulance service in the last four years; and what
proportion of that cost can be attributed to the attendance at accidents caused by
speeding motorcyclists. (HL2936)

[Doro]

hmmm

so what about the big nasty smelly heavy lorries that trundle through the countryside and through tiny villages blocking roads etc

they are much worse

ruin roads

cause pollution

are dangerous when going too fast through residential areas

and people don't tend to drive lorries through the countryside for a nice day out, they do it cos it's a quicker way than the clogged up motorway

(obviously not thinking about the lorries delivering stuff to local businesses etc and/or collecting milk from farms etc)

[Gypsy]

bikers just seem to be an easy target for everyone at present :mad:

[Dusty]

Have you noticed how nobody seems to be complaining about the boy racers in their souped up (?) clio's and nova's,when i say souped up , i of course mean the big bore straight through exhausts that are fitted to everything nowadays, these make just as much noise as bikes and yet Plod doesn't seem to do a thing about them,these prats are twice as dangerous as the so called menace bikers cos they have all watched "too fat too furry arsed" and think they are expert at handling and racing their cars.but have you also noticed how all of the so called racers are in little girlie cars,nova's, clio's,fiat's.lets be honest most of us who are 40 ish would not have been seen dead in little cars like that when we were 18, we drove real cars like capri's, celica's, corsair's etc, personally i had an old mustang, now that was a racer, i'd like to see a fiat cinquechento beat that in a standing quarter no matter how many neons and amps they have got fitted.
Dont even get me started on the stereos belting out of these cars, there are noise abatement laws to stop this type of noise, but do you see the police out at meeting places for cars checking number plates, exhausts etc etc ? Do you ****e .Perhaps its time us noisy dirty smelly dangerous biker type people started lobbying our local police about the dangers and noise pollution from these boy racers and see if they take as much notice of us.

I need to go and have a cuppa now !!!

[UKRobKLR650]

Have you noticed how nobody seems to be complaining about the boy racers in their souped up (?) clio's and nova's,when i say souped up , i of course mean the big bore straight through exhausts that are fitted to everything nowadays, these make just as much noise as bikes and yet Plod doesn't seem to do a thing about them,these prats are twice as dangerous as the so called menace bikers cos they have all watched "too fat too furry arsed" and think they are expert at handling and racing their cars.but have you also noticed how all of the so called racers are in little girlie cars,nova's, clio's,fiat's.lets be honest most of us who are 40 ish would not have been seen dead in little cars like that when we were 18, we drove real cars like capri's, celica's, corsair's etc, personally i had an old mustang, now that was a racer, i'd like to see a fiat cinquechento beat that in a standing quarter no matter how many neons and amps they have got fitted.
Dont even get me started on the stereos belting out of these cars, there are noise abatement laws to stop this type of noise, but do you see the police out at meeting places for cars checking number plates, exhausts etc etc ? Do you ****e .Perhaps its time us noisy dirty smelly dangerous biker type people started lobbying our local police about the dangers and noise pollution from these boy racers and see if they take as much notice of us.

I need to go and have a cuppa now !!!
Funny you should mention that. I went back home to Wales last weekend to see family, play about on bikes with me brother etc. We were ploddin about on the bikes (big trailies ) and went up on Dolfor Moors (just up the road from parents, we used to play up there as kids). Anyway, theres a bunch of cars thrashing about, clios, 206's etc etc etc, all with big bore pipes so on so forth. Worse than that was the amount of skid marks from cars on the road and dead sheep left lying there plus there was a few lame ones. It was disgusting. Basically these idiots were using the moors lanes as a race track. Hope someone reports those twats. :mad:

[Santa]

That's not even mentioning the blacked out windows. You can hardly pull over and change the windows when the sun goes down can you!

[Chris]

Yeah I had an Isetta me, that'll show em !!!! :D ;)

[DANNY]

I Pay Road Tax That Means I Can Ride On The Roads Thats Any Puplic Road. Do Horse Riders Pay Road Tax I Dont Think So, My Bike Dont Leave Lumps Of $h!t On Gorners.leaves Quickly Before Horsey Types Whip Me To Death.

[MrFluffy]

The whole tone of this motion is why I left the uk in the first place. I got sick of the police announcing their summer biker persecution and it being greeted with glee by the local idiots. And I got sick of the amount of "spot checks" and other ****e that I had to put up with on a daily basis because I happened to live in a posh part of the country and chose to ride a old gs850 at the time. And I mean every time I went out, getting the "coming onto our territory" speech from some clueless fuckwit in a astra area car only to tell them for the nth time that actually I lived there.
So Im quite happy to have made the decision to leave a few years back, and im quite happy that now I pay my taxes on money I earn in the uk, in france to the french government, because at least I know its not going to fund more "safety cameras" or another summer of persecution for bikers, instead it seems to be spent on improving the trains and better healthcare and lots of other more laudable things. I also know a lot of other consultants who ride bikes, and theyve all emigrated or are in the process, thats a lot of equity being driven out the country (and what I do for a living is obscenely paid, imho), a lot of lost taxes and a lot of brain drain. Bikers are consumers after all, theyre taxpayers too and they cover a large spectrum of people not just the popular stereotype, but there seems this prevailing attitude that theyre not, theyre just a easy target to be rolled out for a bit of PR once a year, its been that way since the 60's and the mods and rockers tales hyped up by the papers helped sell them and some souless faceless person took note and the whole attitude took root, its just another thing to divert the populaces attention from the deeper real issues of the day facing the uk . And it works, so it can only get worse as the political situation gets more desperate issues will require more hiding. Its all smoke and mirrors deflecting to a witchhunt that everyone can join in if they want, doesnt require thought, everyone can just mindlessly follow a few prompts and feel part of it.
You know what really sucks, Im stuck in yorkshire on contract till september, please please please let the euro market pick up again and get me out the realm of these idiot politicians with their hidden agenda's. I want to work somewhere again where I can pass a police car and not flinch on the way to a site and have to explain to my customer why I was late after a pointless conversation at the side of the road. And somewhere that if I report a crime they actually attend instead of being too busy chasing motorists or sitting at the side of a road with a mobile speed gun and 8 cars and 6 bikes for a tiny little town, at peak traffic times when speeding wouldnt happen anyway because of traffic density. Just a show of strength to keep the minions in their place. Keep them cowed.
Do I sound bitter, well yes, I bloody escaped once and im only here to clear my debts. And coming back, its hard, everything I despised about the policing and politics of this country has increased. Its not hard to be critical of sour cream when your used to better.

Off for a nice play with the kwaker motor in the cellar to calm down.

[Bosun]

and must be protected from this kind of illegal pollution."

i think this is the crux the "illegal" bit

The Questions tabled by Lord Peel are :
1) To ask Her Majesty's Government what action they plan to take to
investigate the adverse effects on residents, visitors and livestock from speeding
by motorcyclists in the North Yorkshire Moors and the Yorkshire Dales National
Parks. (HL2934)

2) To ask Her Majesty's Government what action they plan to take to
tackle motorcyclists in the North Yorkshire Moors and the Yorkshire Dales NationalParks who adapt their motorcycles to increase their engine noise. (HL2935) once again its the adapt bit which worries
3) To ask Her Majesty's Government what were the total costs of
operating the North Yorkshire air ambulance service in the last four years; and what
proportion of that cost can be attributed to the attendance at accidents caused by
speeding motorcyclists. we did a charity run last weekend to thames valley air ambulance, who are regually called ouyt for accidents by horseriders and hikers, where ambulances cannot get too. a lot of bike groups help support the ambulances(HL2936)

the bigger picture is the knock on effect already the clamp down on louder exhausts is reallyy hitting harley riders etc on mot time, and they are not really the culprits

["HIGH TOWER"]

Had a blast down "SNAKE PASS" on the way home from NABD on the trike .fantastic trike riding country and bikes sorry . but was over taken by a "boy racer "on a blind bend.Its not the machine its the twat behind the controls that needs sorting ?. :confused:

[dracken1]

thinking of moving to france myself soon

this country is quickly becoming a police state.
oh its called fancy names and sneaks in through the backdoor.

we get told you must do this
you will do that.
spot checks etc etc etc.
sound like any other countries a few years ago????

a lot of our local people including shop owners complain about bikers.
i see families of 4 in thier cars pull up opposite my house(i only 50 metres from the beach)
they get their food and drink out of the boot go on the beach and at the end of the day go home.
they did'nt even get petrol as they filled up at home.
bikes would have to fill up at this end to get home.
most dont carry a picnic hamper with them
so they have to buy food and drink up here.

this all adds up to money being put into the pockets of local traders.
but can the dumb sh*ts see that? can they f**k!!!

a motorcycle gives you a degree of freedom.
most of us a nonconformists.
and there lies the problem
we are concidered as rebels
we must be bought under control cloned if you will.

there will never be a civil war in this country becuase not everyone would
want it.
so as long as the ruling goverment can keep at least 50% of the country
happy.
there wont be a great deal of unrest.
so be seen to be acting i.e. pick on minorities.
us being one of them...

[Tim750]

Dads army mode on
Were Doomed i tell you Doomed :eek:

[Shudy]

Yorkshire can sort it's own idiots out, those on the bikes and those in the House of Lords.

Here in Cambridgeshire, we welcome boy racers on the isolated roads, they are good practice as moving targets. Roll on the wildfowling season :rolleyes:

[grem]

horse riders do have to pay insurance to ride on the road though and they have to wear the big nipple hats and dayglo vests.

[Mrs Reject]

I don't blame MrFluffy for living abroad although I'm sure the last time I saw you you were curled up on my bed purring!!!???
Last year I was driving from horsham to brighton when I noticed a huge police presence - they were everywhere, vans, cars, dog units. Me and Mitch thought there was some kind of terrorist scare or big criminal escaped or sommat. they were stopping people and questioning them - I never saw anything like it.
Anyway it turned out they were after tax dodgers. I couldn't believe it???? Times like that you just despair - you ring the police when something serious happens i.e a crime and no one comes - to feckin' busy persecuting motorists the w*nkers!!!!!

[Captain Smurf]

Quote"3) To ask Her Majesty's Government what were the total costs of
operating the North Yorkshire air ambulance service in the last four years; and what
proportion of that cost can be attributed to the attendance at accidents caused by
speeding motorcyclists. "

The Air Ambulance is financed by charitable contributions. Whilst it is of interest to all who contribute how the funds are used, it is not a matter for parliament or Government, as it is not coming from the Exchequer.

I would suspect that all who contribute are glad to see that the anbulance is used whenever it is needed, regardless of who is being rescued (moutaineers, farmers injured on hillsides?). If we are to start stipulating to whom charity is offered, then every charity will need multiple collecting boxes to make sure the money goes in the 'right' direction.