If we had National Service back

[John Hopkins]

and every 'British subject' was eligible for call up, and now that women are equal too, what would the parades look like with all the burqahs and turbans and saris..Or would Britain suddenly get a lot emptier!.. :confused: John

[jabba]

Reckon that certain types would be exempt from it on religous grounds.
Oh bugger started that again.

[John Hopkins]

I don't know but I think we still have boy scouts, girl guides, army cadets, sea cadets, air cadets, and the boys brigade, don't we? How do they get on..Genuine query.. I have grown old and out of touch..The population has changed so much since I was a kid in the 50s...maybe all those organisations have gone?..anyone know..some of you youngsters must know! anyone born in the 70s, 80s have mates who were in any of them?.. :confused: John

[deegee]

I don't know but I think we still have boy scouts, girl guides, army cadets, sea cadets, air cadets, and the boys brigade, don't we? How do they get on..Genuine query.. I have grown old and out of touch..The population has changed so much since I was a kid in the 50s...maybe all those organisations have gone?..anyone know..some of you youngsters must know! anyone born in the 70s, 80s have mates who were in any of them?.. :confused: John


Don't know about the Boys Brigade haven't heard anything about them for years. The rest are still going tho'. Last year I read on a military aircrew forum that the biggest branch of the R.A.F. is now the Air Cadets. :) A friend of mine's son is in the local Army Cadets and some evenings in the summer on a walk by Ramsgate Harbour you can hear & see the Sea Cadet band learning to play & march at the same time. :eek: :D

[Dougie]

I have seen Sikhs in the army wearing turbans in regimental colours.Remember,they are a warrior race and have served this country proudly in both World Wars.
And they like their beer........ :D

[gothtec]

Don't mind the physical, don't mind the mental, just don't ask me to shoot someone...

[Dougie]

Don't mind the physical, don't mind the mental, just don't ask me to shoot someone...
I have been VERY close to shooting someone on two seperate occasions........

[gothtec]

I have been VERY close to shooting someone on two seperate occasions........

Question:

Do people really join the army/navy/airforce without the knowledge that at some point they may have to shoot someone or be shot at?

[rob]

Question:

Do people really join the army/navy/airforce without the knowledge that at some point they may have to shoot someone or be shot at?

maybe they think they're joining to do flower arranging.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Dougie]

Nope.You hope it won't happen,but you've got to be prepared for when it does.
BTW getting shot at don't half piss you off.....

[rob]

and every 'British subject' was eligible for call up, and now that women are equal too, what would the parades look like with all the burqahs and turbans and saris..Or would Britain suddenly get a lot emptier!.. :confused: John
excellent idea. every person (male/female) between 18-35 does 3 years min. service, NO exceptions.

[Dougie]

Not necessarily in the armed forces,get them rebuilding our transport infrastructure and the like.

[rob]

Not necessarily in the armed forces,get them rebuilding our transport infrastructure and the like.
Hmmm, a sudden feeling of deja vu :eek:
transport and infrastructure first, then the armed forces......


or is it still a bit early for sarcasm?? :p

[gothtec]

excellent idea. every person (male/female) between 18-35 does 3 years min. service, NO exceptions.

Why 35?

Just because your 40 doesn't mean you can't do the job.. I would say up to 50 depending of physical fitness.

[Dougie]

No,seriously,looking around at the 'Youth Of Today',I wouldn't trust most of them with a knife and fork,never mind an SA80.Give 'em a pick or shovel and they'd really only be a danger to themselves.

[Dougie]

Why 35?

Just because your 40 doesn't mean you can't do the job.. I would say up to 50 depending of physical fitness.
Feck off.I've done my time! :p

[rob]

Why 35?

Just because your 40 doesn't mean you can't do the job.. I would say up to 50 depending of physical fitness.
twoz just a number plucked from the sky..................

being bigger than 18, and a number higher than the age of most of the 'economic migrants'.

[pale rider]

would that include a regiment of pink barets

[kitkatman]

No,seriously,looking around at the 'Youth Of Today',I wouldn't trust most of them with a knife and fork,never mind an SA80..
why not, just dont give em the super glue to stick it back together when it falls to pieces :rolleyes:

[Dougie]

And how the hell does a lance-jack shoot himself in the head trying to unjam a Minimi? :confused:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=65012007
What the hell are they teaching them?ALWAYS keep the muzzle pointing down the range. :eek:

[Borg]

he span it around and tried kicking/pushing the cocking leaver back after it had jammed

[Dougie]

Not bright! :eek: :eek:

[kitkatman]

well..............he wont be doing that again will he :D

[John Hopkins]

Don't mind the physical, don't mind the mental, just don't ask me to shoot someone...

This is going to upset some of you...I joined up so that I could shoot someone!! :D John

[John Hopkins]

And how the hell does a lance-jack shoot himself in the head trying to unjam a Minimi? :confused:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=65012007
What the hell are they teaching them?ALWAYS keep the muzzle pointing down the range. :eek:

I knew a lance jack, thick as a brick..stitched three rounds from a thompson sub machine gun across his own chest,by accident! didn't like him much, cant even remember his name now! :D John

[Violetmay]

here's a sensible thought from me. rare but hey.


If they have now raised the age of educationual school leaving age to 18 w.e.f. 2013, why not offer those who do not want to do the academic continuation at 16 + national service til 18 years, and offer them military based, vocational training, so they come out with the basics of a trade, and a choice of whether to sign up full time or get a job with those qualifications.

Just a thought. Think the ceiling on it should be 21, and should be equal sexes, have no religious or gender and sexual orientation bias. But anyone who offends in the youth age bracket or under say 25 instead of youth offending team stuff and probation.. they go on service again even if they did it before.

[eigerton]

now raised the age of educationual school leaving age to 18


the bit I liked was the idea from the ministry that those not continuing in education or training or getting a job would be penalised by having their driving licenses revoked. I can see that really making a difference