Racism

[lowrider]

I have been listening to various news stations during the day the last one at 6.30 on radio 4.
Top of all the reports was the racial taunts at the England football match last night.Item after item with different people giving a viewpoint.
Little bit further down in most progs was a report on a white guy who killed his Asian cell mate.Again gasp horror what went wrong.
A long way down, in the last one i heard just before a report on a turn about in royal mail an item on a coloured on white killing.
A white school boy kidnaped because he was white,driven around in a car for 200 miles,stabbed 13 times and set on fire while still alive.All by a group of Asiains.One guy convicted.
Now call me racist if you like but surely if this had been a white gang that had done this it would have been HEADLINES.Community leaders asking for calm,interviews with politicians etc. i have heard sod all.
Plus surley a brutal KILLING like this is of more importance than a few prima donnas getting called names in a forgien country.

My heart goes out to the family of that teenager that sees a world that rates thier sons life below a footballers feelings.
I also ask how any news editor could put such a schedule together.?
I could go on but so bloody angry.

[Freak]

No, no you're missing the point....
It put them off their football. The poor little darlings lost the game. OH THE SHAME......and they only earn 30,000 a week.

[GarrysPhrogg]

I know exactly what you're saying lowrider, but dare to voice an opinion in your own country :confused: now we will be labeled racist for noticing.

[blackhack]

this happened about six miles from where i live and and all the asian community leaders are bending over backwards to try to keep a lid on the racial tensions......

The frightning thing is the victim was only 15.....two years older than my eldest son.....what a fucked-up world we live in...........


read about it here.......

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=14890501%26method=full%26siteid=89488% 26headline=guilty%2d%2d%2dnow%2dcatch%2dother%2dkr iss%2dmurderers-name_page.html

[Abb]

Hello, your local alleged racist here.

This sort of thing has been going on for years. The police treat practically every crime against an ethnic in this country as a racially motivated crime, yet they treat hardly any ethnic on white crime as such.

Why? Because it doesn't happen that's why. That's the official government line on this sort of thing. There is a website (link I am not posting) that has a list of racial crimes against whites - compiled over the last few years. Murders, rapes, muggings etc - there are plenty.

Remember though - they do not happen.

[Doro]

I heard that they want to change the name of a school in London because it is 'saint mary magdelene'

change it so it's not upsetting the muslims and hindus and jews

who wants to do that?

council education chiefs

who said it's a stupid idea and will make racial tension worse?

muslim leaders




racism against the indiginous people of Britain is often caused by those same people


the PC spouters...!

[100%Pat]

Easeist thing to do about that website is to put it in your profile then if anyone wants to go look at it they can.

[Abb]

No Pat, that way I could be associated with that kind of activity and politics. My views are my own, but I readily distance myself from the views and activities of the extreme right - I do however read their sites myself for interests sake (same reason I read Searchlights website)

[Abb]

racism against the indiginous people of Britain is often caused by those same people


the PC spouters...!

Of course, but the blinkered people in power cannot see this. They cannot see the rising tide of racial tension in Europe. If nothing is done, then IT can and will happen again. They believe their democracy is invincible - well Kings thought that Divine Rule was the same. The will of the people will drive this country, and if the governments aren't working, they will go.

Look to Canada to see how a good, multiracial society can work (apart from the French)

[bunbag]

totaly against racism but this thing in glasgow area is right out of order this young guy was stabbed set on fire left for dead he then crawled down to the river to try and gain help this murder :mad: is being hushed up by the police and as you say if this was one of our coloured ethnic brethern this would be a higher profile case and the race card would be played and
and it probably be the ace of spades :mad:

[Fran]

It was months before they would even class this as a "racially motivated" crime incase there was a backlash against the Asian community.I used to have a friend who was big on the whole PC thing.In her book racism was white man being unfair to black/ethnic man.I said it's any race being unfair to another.Yes she said...but black people are entitled to be racist....well if we want equality then so are we...if you follow that line of thinking.
To me equality means we ALL take the good & the bad.

[Dougie]

The way I look at it is no one race,creed,colour,religion etc has the monopoly on being bastards!


I may be wrong tho'.

[slugonamission]

This is weird, i saw a Siekh church (however its spelt) footy club once, if it was a C or E one, would that be racist?

Also, a friend of a friend has had this happened. This kid chucking rocks into their garden when theyre having a BBq with guests, bloke goes round, asks them to stop, usual "we werent f**kin doing anything", bloke eventually includes "Black **********" in the conversation. Kid goes home, 10 mins later, his mum is round saying things like "My son is a good kid" etc (his record at school is about 10 inch thick BTW). Ends up police beating door down at 3 o clock in morning.

Then i know somebody thats been called a white cunt when walking around....
:confused:

[bunbag]

no one listens us we must speek with forked tounge :mad: :eek:

[lowrider]

Must be that if your face is white then you cant be seen.
Great i am off to the ladies changing room. ;)
I have said for a long time that PC has swung to far towards protection of minorities to the extent that white or non coloured views are not taken into account.Also let us not doubt that the racism card is played whenever coloureds want to gain a advantage.
How many times have you seen tribunals that claim racial predjuice was the reason for dismissal when the real reason is they were ****e at their jobs.
Sorry if it offends some people out in the rose tinted world but anyone who wants to live in this country has to except that we the residents have a way of life that we WILL live as well as beliefs.If anyone don't like that go live in a country that suits you.Now that may mean that who will not have the same standard of living or a welfare state that you may have not yet paid into but that is a price you may have to pay to live the way who chose
But DO NOT EXPECT ME TO CHANGE MY WAY OF LIFE.
That is not racism because i believe that the above can apply to all.

[Dougie]

Where I live we have a growing Muslim community,with a Mosque literally round the corner.Now,my view is if you don't bother me,I won't bother you.However,it's getting to the stage that I'm starting to feel uneasy at times.Some of the looks I get when the Mosque comes out after prayers or whatever,we're talking pure hate!If I was to return said looks I feel I could end up with a kicking,or worse!A terrible thing to say,but mebbe Enoch Powell wasn't too far from the truth with his 'Rivers of Blood' speech.Let me just say I'm no Nazi,I hate those bastards with a passion,but I feel things are starting to get out of hand.

[dracken1]

i agree with dougie 100%.
there are only two non white people living in my village.
aberystwyth as a lot due to the university.
but i have lived in areas were there are a lot of non white people living. (if non white is the wrong term then tough, as i don't know what the hell is the correct one).
i've seen fights between whites and coloureds that have ended up with the whites been beaten,if the police are involved then arrests are made sometimes. but if the coloureds lose . when the police arrive they start claiming rasist attacks. and that makes me mad.
we live in a free country, if or when this country pisses me off to much. then i'll consider moving to another one.
and everyone whatever colour or creed has that right.
when we accept refugees, we know we will end up with good people and the twats. but when the twats start causing trouble they are handled with kid gloves. and they know this.
if one of us gets caught stealing in certain eastern countries we run the risk of saying bye bye to our hand. as we should have realised what punishment that country has for crimes. but here they claim ignorance to our law, and thats acceptable.
i'm not happy.

[bunbag]

dougie and me must be the only indidgunus( spellin shot) edinburger,s left here :D

[Dougie]

Sorry mate,I'm frae Fife!Fran,on the other hand,is Embra born & bred!!!

[BikerGran]

I used to have a friend who was big on the whole PC thing.In her book racism was white man being unfair to black/ethnic man.I said it's any race being unfair to another.Yes she said...but black people are entitled to be racist....well if we want equality then so are we...if you follow that line of thinking.
To me equality means we ALL take the good & the bad.

I agree. I work for the local police force - all forces had to do loads of stuff after the Stephen Lawrence business - so we were all sent on a course they called "Diversity training" (We'd already had "Equal opportunities training")

So we walk in the room and the first thing we see is that the tutor is a black female. Soon turns out she is a single mum as well!

So she starts on the usual 'breaking the ice' stuff, and one of the things she wants us to do is think of a time when we have felt discriminated against. Well people come up with various things, and when it's my turn, I say that as an employed, law-abiding, white, british taxpayer, I often feel discriminated against. That did it! Lots of the others agreed with me - but she didn't want to know about that - didn't even write it on the board where she was putting everyone's thoughts!
Most of us switched off at that point!

:mad:

[Fran]

I'm poor white schemie (chav) trash.
A while ago people in my office (Government employees...100% equal opportunity etc) got taken aside & warned there was a black female about to start working beside us & we were not to make any remarks which could be taken as racist in ANY way.People were outraged & insulted as we wouldn't do that anyway.But as it turns out this female had been transferred & was making a career out of winding people up & desparatly trying to make a racism case against her employer (the government).We drank in a pub called the Black Pig at the time & we couldn't even mention that as she took offence.People like her don't do her race or minorities any favours.

[Fran]

I agree. I work for the local police force - all forces had to do loads of stuff after the Stephen Lawrence business - so we were all sent on a course they called "Diversity training" (We'd already had "Equal opportunities training")

So we walk in the room and the first thing we see is that the tutor is a black female. Soon turns out she is a single mum as well!

So she starts on the usual 'breaking the ice' stuff, and one of the things she wants us to do is think of a time when we have felt discriminated against. Well people come up with various things, and when it's my turn, I say that as an employed, law-abiding, white, british taxpayer, I often feel discriminated against. That did it! Lots of the others agreed with me - but she didn't want to know about that - didn't even write it on the board where she was putting everyone's thoughts!
Most of us switched off at that point!

:mad:
1984 - All animals are equal but some are more equal than others....naaa that couldn't happen in real life...could it? :confused: :confused:

[dozer]

Yer right guys, edina is fillin up, soon we're gonna have no-go ghettoes like leeds , london,etc.
Well this is not gonna be popular, but i am a bit of a racist, but before y'all hang me i'll tell you why.
i don't differenciate people on their colour, but i do on their attitude, an 9 out of 10 immigrants in this country seem to feel that it is their right to use their ethnic background as a tool to further their social and financial standing in our country.
i can recollect a few examples--there are many though--
my old lady works in the care field as a project manager, one day a black lady was told that her child had misbehaved, the lady then went on to accuse her of being racist, sayin that she would not of mentioned it if the child had not been black,,,,TOTAL CRAP''''''' however a full investigation had to be done, which caused a **** load of distress to my partner, because she is deff not even slightly right wing.
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then there is her friend, who also works in the care field----
during a lunch break a black worker was talking about music tastes, asking a (white)co-worker if he liked rap, he replied that he did not, and was then confronted angrily and asked why not, what was wrong with rap,"it's cause it's black music, eh?".............NONSENCE............but then he made it official by saying that he felt that he had been a victim of a racist attitude,,,,,,once again it was investigated fully,,,,,,,,,
i can reccolect countless examples of this kind of attitude from our coulored brothers an sisters,,,,,,,,,,,,,
if we are trully an equal race, under 1 sky, i think it's most of them that need to understand that many people are racist, not because of colour, but because of coloured attitudes.
anyway this ramble has gone on long enough

YA REAP WHAT YA SEW

DOZER

[Fran]

We had a guy who reported a colleague for making racist remarks.What did this guy say....?He said "I don't like currys." What can I say?

[dozer]

unfotunatly ya cant say anything or your a racist,,lol,,i wonder if the goverment will eventually click on or maybe it's gone past the point of no return...............the black pig was a cool pub,,,,,,the black bull is too..lol.........opps i hope no-one heard that, it may be construed as a racist remark...lol

[Shudy]

i agree with dougie 100%.
there are only two non white people living in my village. ...i'm not happy.

Llandewi Breffri? Dafydd is the only gay in the village!
:D

[Shudy]

We had a guy who reported a colleague for making racist remarks.What did this guy say....?He said "I don't like currys." What can I say?

"Try Dixon's or Comet instead?" ;)

[Santa]

1984 - All animals are equal but some are more equal than others....naaa that couldn't happen in real life...could it? :confused: :confused:


The only thing George Orwell got wrong was the date!

[Freak]

This island has been invaded many many times before in its long war torn
history by different cultures building or expanding their empires on the
backbone of strong beliefs and/or religion. Some with natoriously more
success than others.

Never before has it been done slowly or easily.

Multicultural? I dont think so.


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[TaxiDave]

I used to rank up at the Merry Hill shopping centre. Twenty five of us paid for permits to do so. I was the only white driver, the others were Asians. They would huddle in small groups, chatting away in a language which wasn't the Black Country dialect that I understood and totally pushed me out, which didn't particularly bother me as I only go to work to earn money. It wasn't all of them. The younger lads would come over and chat but it was the older guys in their forties and fifties who saw me as a threat. Maybe I was because when we moved round to the Waterfront side on a night where the bars and clubs are, if I was third on rank for instance, (third in the queue of cabs), and a woman on her own or young girls came to the cabs, they would try to get in mine presumably because I was white. I though, would point them to the first cab because he'd been waiting longer. Who was being racist me or them.

Totally on the other hand though, when I was driving a Private Hire salloon car a few years back, I worked for a rank of thirty all white drivers. We had a call over the radio which was a code to tell the operator if we had any trouble with passengers.
One Saturday night I had a car full of idiots and the lad behind me put a knife to my throat and kindly asked for my money. Well basically they took the money and legged it leaving the knife planted through my thigh. I shouted the office over the radio, she put the call over to the drivers, who were basically a bunch of wankers who didn't really want to get involved, but at the same time a driver from a local rank pulled up next to me (it happened to be our closest competition business wise and all the drivers were Asians). He got on his radio and within minutes there were about eight of their drivers (still with passengers on board) with me, looking for my ex-passengers, and one of them let me bleed all over his seat and took me to hospital before any of my "colleagues" turned up. They also got my car home and brought my wife to the hospital.

[Nitrowing]

I've been keeping quiet on this - not because I'm racist nor anti-English (but by fuck you bunch have a lot to answer for :p ) but because I get (easily) confused.
England is (yet again) being taken over by 'bloody foreigners'. Ummm - you always have, no matter how hard you tried... Romans, Saxons, Vikings, Pakis.... Get used to it.
You all complain about it happening yet quite happily sell them shops, petrol stations, chippies.... and then buy from them!!??

If you have a problem do something about it. Walk the extra 200 yards to buy from a shop that you might prefer.. drive to the next petrol station... stop buying kebabs and curries... or STFU!

All ranting done with the aid of real ale :p

[madastoast]

Mrs Mads first hubby was killed on a bike by an asian black cab driver.At the inquest he could not understand english but held a taxi licence and obviously had to take the written test.Also he would have had to understand enough english to get around and take fares.
I say the asian killed him but he choked to death on his own blood from a broken jaw the coppers told the ambulance he was a goner so they bundled him into the back of the ambulance without checking him out he was DOA If they had checked him and cleared his airway he would have been here today but no-one did and no-one ever paid for that little error :mad: I knew him and he was full on and full of life. They say only the good die young but it seems a little unfair sometimes that people can be taken away by idiots

[bunbag]

Sorry mate,I'm frae Fife!Fran,on the other hand,is Embra born & bred!!!
see thats it started all ready these fife,rs come aff the boat into edinburgh take our wimen and our jobs feckin interloupers ;)

[Shudy]

I've been keeping quiet on this - not because I'm racist nor anti-English (but by fuck you bunch have a lot to answer for :p ) but because I get (easily) confused.
England is (yet again) being taken over by 'bloody foreigners'. Ummm - you always have, no matter how hard you tried... Romans, Saxons, Vikings, Pakis.... Get used to it.
You all complain about it happening yet quite happily sell them shops, petrol stations, chippies.... and then buy from them!!??

If you have a problem do something about it. Walk the extra 200 yards to buy from a shop that you might prefer.. drive to the next petrol station... stop buying kebabs and curries... or STFU!

All ranting done with the aid of real ale :p

As you say you are not a racist, why do you use the term "Paki" which is deemed as offensive racist language?

Are you ignorant or a liar?

[Shudy]

see thats it started all ready these fife,rs come aff the boat into edinburgh take our wimen and our jobs feckin interloupers ;)


Keep your lang spoons hidden awa!!

[Dougie]

see thats it started all ready these fife,rs come aff the boat into edinburgh take our wimen and our jobs feckin interloupers ;)Wiznae a boat,wiz the bridge!Onywye,ye canna get movin' in the Kingdom fur "settlers" frae Embra & Glesca takin' advantage o' oor lower hoose prices an' drivin' oot the natives!An' as fur Shudy,ah'll stick ma lang spoon up yer arse! :D

[Nitrowing]

As you say you are not a racist, why do you use the term "Paki" which is deemed as offensive racist language?

Are you ignorant or a liar?
I'm not politically correct, that doesn't make me racist. No one complains about the terms 'Jock', 'Frog', 'Taff' or 'Paddy'. Maybe I should not use the word 'Chinkie' when I want some Sinapaw Fied Lice. Maybe I shouldn't say my taxi driver neighbour is 'black' - everybody will deem something 'offensive'.
I'm not ignorant - other people are too sensitive :p :D

[Rogue Monkey]

As you say you are not a racist, why do you use the term "Paki" which is deemed as offensive racist language?

Are you ignorant or a liar?
I thought that Paki was a shortened version of Pakistani? If its use has become "offensive" what other term should one use? If its Asian then that would describe all chinese, japanese, tiawanese etc! If you want to describe a particular culture what term would be considered non offensive? Im from Manchester and have been called a manc many times! I dont feel offended by that! Surley its in the individuals subjective apraisal as to what they ascribe to the meanings of their verbal utterances! I know and work with a number of "Pakistanies" and they are always calling each other Paki! I know a few "Black" lads who refare to each other as "Niggers" Im not sure what exactly people mean By offensive! I dont know, but calling someone a liar and ignorent? i think that could be considered offensive! :o

[Spike]

once the skins been removed, who can tell what colour they were ?

[Abb]

once the skins been removed, who can tell what colour they were ?Any doctor. Asians, Chinese, Blacks and Whites all have very different skull structures.

[Abb]

England is (yet again) being taken over by 'bloody foreigners'. Ummm - you always have, no matter how hard you tried... Romans, Saxons, Vikings, Pakis.... Get used to it.The difference being that before we were taken by force, in battle. Now we are being over run by this plague that our weak willed governments are allowing to sneak in almost unchecked. There has been no battle - yet!

[defarter]

I thought that Paki was a shortened version of Pakistani? If its use has become "offensive" what other term should one use? If its Asian then that would describe all chinese, japanese, tiawanese etc! If you want to describe a particular culture what term would be considered non offensive? Im from Manchester and have been called a manc many times! I dont feel offended by that! Surley its in the individuals subjective apraisal as to what they ascribe to the meanings of their verbal utterances! I know and work with a number of "Pakistanies" and they are always calling each other Paki! I know a few "Black" lads who refare to each other as "Niggers" Im not sure what exactly people mean By offensive! I dont know, but calling someone a liar and ignorent? i think that could be considered offensive! :o

Got to agree with yer RM.
When i lived in London a few years back there was a Pakistani guy who had his own company and was doing quite well for him-self nice house lovely wife and kids, well in to bikes and the people who ride them, but on his car he had a private Number Plate, PAK 1 and had it been spaced out as "PAKI" when i asked him if he got much stick over it his reply was "I'm a fucking paki and I'm proud of it" and he could have sold that plate 10 times a day everyday.
So to the PC gang pick the fucking bones out that if you can!!!!

In my lot we have Jewish, Aussie, french/Canadian and English so i guess i dont have a pedigree, do i give a fuck. :D :D :D

I don't have a problem with the people who are here lawfully what i do have a problem with is the ones that come just to abuse the system and play the race card trick which has been tried and tested so much over the years you'd think it whould have been worn out by now........

[Rogue Monkey]

These racism arguments always trouble me! I always have the feeling that the arguments are illogical! If a rule is "logical" then it holds true which ever way you employ it! I dont understand how it can be legal for an Indian restraunt to advertise for Indian waiters only! A chinese restruant can advertise for Chinese only! but an English restraunt cannot advertse for "English" waiters! :confused: The logic of that rule is beyond my comprehension! UNLESS! it is of itself inherently RACIST! Maybe thats why these arguments are so provocative! Just a thought! :o

[Fran]

see thats it started all ready these fife,rs come aff the boat into edinburgh take our wimen and our jobs feckin interloupers ;)
They only come in by boat coz they won't pay the toll on the bridge!Wait a minute....bikes don't pay tolls....aaaahh...that's why he's got a bike! :D

[Mrs Reject]

These racism arguments always trouble me! I always have the feeling that the arguments are illogical! If a rule is "logical" then it holds true which ever way you employ it! I dont understand how it can be legal for an Indian restraunt to advertise for Indian waiters only! A chinese restruant can advertise for Chinese only! but an English restraunt cannot advertse for "English" waiters! :confused: The logic of that rule is beyond my comprehension! UNLESS! it is of itself inherently RACIST! Maybe thats why these arguments are so provocative! Just a thought! :o

I think if someone decided to challenge being turned down for work in an Indian restaurant on racism grounds they would most probably win, however, noone has tried it yet probably because most white people don't know how to cook a decent biryani.
Personally I wouldn't fancy slaving over a hot chow mein all day and there's your problem, white people don't want thoses jobs and so reverse racism is never challenged - it will be one day and then all cultures will be hopping about paranoid not just us!!!

[lowrider]

I have no probs with buying goods or services from anyone of any skin colour.Mine and i feel from the tone of some of the threads are problem is when race is used as a baseball bat to batter some poor innocent person who may object to having problems with the local council deciding not to have a Christmas tree in case it offends others.Not the individual decision i know but someone somewhere must have complained or broached the subject at some time.
Or non coloureds being forced to tip toe around arseholes who are black,asian or whatever who are looking to take offenise at any chance remark.
I would say eveyone will know of or have read of cases where race has been used against a employer of fellow employee.Sometimes because of personal grudges.
Sorry to say i feel that from now on it should be up to the accuser to provide proof beyond doubt of the racism.If that meens that a few racists slip the net then tough,but i would think that would be a good step on the path to showing that everyone is equal in all things.
Something i feel many coloureds would not be happy with because most them employed within local goverment,councils etc wouldn't be in the job they are in now.Ethnic employment targets etc.
Most senior managers would admit that in private.
Now i accept what i have said is a broad statement and i accept that.Many people can point to coloured mate who is sound.
However just as bikers are tarred with the same brush so are Pakis,Niggers etc,but if more of them stood up and said that while racism is wrong they did not won't any special treatment it would improve race relations a hell of a lot.

[krammer]

the police have stated quite openly that they would lower the standards (?) for recruitment for someone who is none white. positive discrimination they call it. uhhuuh, so thats alright then.:mad:

[lowrider]

Ahem, got to say it how do lower the standards of the police force? :p

[Rogue Monkey]

:p ............................ :D

[Fran]

Ahem, got to say it how do lower the standards of the police force? :p
Pension off the police horses? :D

[GarrysPhrogg]

I think most people who appear to be racist are actually governmentist :)

[BlackPig]

I think most people who appear to be racist are actually governmentist :)


Wash your mouth out young lady,how dare you use such words on a public forum !!!! :eek: :eek: :rolleyes: