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Suzukiron
17-11-2004, 06:52 PM
Well it had to happen eventually didn’t it Pat!!!!
So **RANT MODE ON**CYNICAL MODE ON**AND MOST INPORTANT…SARCASM MODE WELL AND TRULY ON** All systems checked and functioning…if you wish to abort process…do so now!! What your still reading this…Oh well better get on with it.

This has been provoked by events of the weekend, and the fact that it wasn’t just me, but also 3 of my friends that heard the immortal words…”Can we just be friends”. That I have been provoked into writing the following rant entitled……

Just Friends…….Bollox!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And that’s just what it is! Now firstly I am writing this from the male perspective, because that’s what I am, I also realise that some women also hear those soul destroying words, but lets be perfectly honest here, in the relationship game women hold all the ace’s.
I can’t remember how many times down the years that I have heard the statements, “You’re a nice Guy but..” or “I’m not ready for a relationship”( This one is usually a sure sign that the women in question will be in a relationship within the month!!!) or even, “Its not you, its me” and of course the all time favourite and the title of this piece, “Can’t we just be Friends?”. You know, sometimes when I here that statement I wanna say “NO! we f**king can’t be friends, I fancy you like hell n I wanna regular shag!!” of course I never do because I’m a nice guy. You have to wonder about women? What’s going through there heads when they agree to go out with you, when they know full well they dinnae find you attractive? Do they think you will suddenly become irresistible once the alcoholic haze sets in, and then they will fancy you? Or maybe they are just taking you for all they can before moving on to the next sucker, who’s fool enough to ask them out. Ok so I am being cynical here, I know it’s not like that all the time, or should I say I hope its not like that all the time. To be brutally honest I don’t know what goes on in a woman’s head, probably why I’m still single and in this stupid game called dating…However I know what a man thinks (Yes its true ladies we do sometimes, n shock horror we even have feelings, just like you!!)
A friend has just pointed out that maybe, by sticking around and being “Just Friends” that in time, the other persons feelings towards you may change…but as he said by thinking that this could happen, well “herein lies the route to madness” which is true. And call me cynical if you like but why would you want to do this? I guess because you really like this other person is the answer, but part of me also thinks “perhaps they just want to keep me hanging around in reserve” so to speak, incase they don’t find someone else? A fall back position as it were, and I suppose it makes them feel good.
As I said earlier, the statement “You’re a nice Guy but….” Is just as bad. But what? I know I’m “acting” like a nice guy around you, that’s because I like you n want to sleep with you FFS!!!!
What are we supposed to do? I dunno, maybe from writing this I will gain some wisdom from the response’s..but being a cynical bugger I doubt it.
I was told by a women, that for some unexplainable reason they are not generally attracted to nice guys…although they do appreciate what is on offer. And no doubt they would be happy in that relationship as long as they got to shag a bad bloke every so often!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The conclusion from this is that “Bad Guys” get the girls….
But surely that can’t be it, “Good Guys” have got to win sometimes..haven’t they?
I guess I’m living proof that this is the case, as I have had a number of long term relationships throught the years. It’s a pity they were with complete phyco bitches from hell!!LOL
I suppose it could be worse, all these statements are designed to save our feelings, and mask the true reason’s for the lack of mutual physical attraction. It’s a pity they don’t work isn’t it?
Everybody is aware of there own physical failings, some people more than others, and with good reason. Perhap’s its just as well these statements do exist because I don’t think it would be much fun being told that you are Ugly/Fat/Bald/Skinny/Shortarsed/Thick as 2 short planks etc…or even worse all of them!!! On a regular basis would it?
So where does that leave us…to be honest I dunno, I guess I, like everyone else in my position will continue to play the game.
Later Days all
R
(now wheres the sandbags, dugoot, tin hat n flak jacket!! Think I’m gonna need em LMAO..)
:D ;) :cool:

Lone-Wolf
17-11-2004, 07:31 PM
like everyone else in my position will continue to play the game.


Wotcha.

Is that a euphemism for having a wank ? ;) 'cos that seems like yer only alternative at the moment.


<<< jumps in the dugout next door to Ron's >>

krammer
17-11-2004, 07:36 PM
i dunno, but did you jump the gun by telling her about your armpit fetish? or that saturday nights are when you go out dogging? you did'nt ask her if you could try on her shoes, skirt,drawers etc did ya?. if you had listened to my original advice which you might remember i advised wearing a tiara and some other glam gear she would have been intrigued by your penchant for ratners style jewellry and you could have treated her to a new ring. :eek:

TaxiDave
17-11-2004, 07:49 PM
Perhap’s its just as well these statements do exist because I don’t think it would be much fun being told that you are Ugly/Fat/Bald/Skinny/Shortarsed/Thick as 2 short planks etc…or even worse all of them!!! On a regular basis would it?


It might not be that much fun being called all that but remember that Yoda's wife has to talk to him sometime.

krammer
17-11-2004, 08:00 PM
It might not be that much fun being called all that but remember that Yoda's wife has to talk to him sometime. no, yoda and his wife communicate via two cocoa tins and a very long piece of string.............plus she has yet to see his latest credit card bill. :eek:

GarrysPhrogg
17-11-2004, 08:37 PM
Ok ron, My Garry is a genuine nice guy he sometimes tries his best not to be but fails miserably.
OK We shagged on our "first" date and 4-5years down the line we're still shaggin, and the bestest of friends, we just clicked, if its meant to be a shag wont change things and anyway best find out sooner rather than later.

On your next date, go for it, try and get a shag and if she turns round and says "can we just be friends" tell her "No" then go find your next one. :)

Maybe you are going for "bad" women, maybe you should start loking at "nice" ladies :)

Simple as S H A G

Mrs Reject
17-11-2004, 08:42 PM
Believe me we've all been there Ron, Mitch has had the "nice guy' thing on several occasions and I once went er.......dare I admit this.....okay you've twisted my arm.....7 years without anyone ever asking me out, apparently I was too independent, not fluffy blond enough, too forward asking the guy out in the first place...bollox to em all I mean it's not like I'm a gargoyle or anything.
Anyhow Mr Nice and Mrs Fuckin' inadequate have now found each other and all is well!!!!! :D

Jay
17-11-2004, 09:23 PM
Ron if it's a regular shag you want mate, it's easy.

Write a letter to your local council explaining how you are appalled at the state of the street lighting in your village. Point out, in no uncertain terms - there's no room for ambiguity here - that you aint paying your council tax and thats.......THAT.

Book yourself 3 weeks off from work around 6 months in advance. Now here's the clever bit.....when you get taken to court plead guilty and tell the judge you are certain that it was him you saw in some pictures on the internet muffing a great-dane. Now he'll deny it Ron, but you and I know it was him.

This should get you a full three week sentence in the local slammer and that my friend guarantees you a regular shag - whether you want it or not!!

Jim
17-11-2004, 09:55 PM
Yeah Ron I know where you're coming from. Its one of the most trite and irritating expressions going. Better now than later though, its when you've been with someone a while and they trot that one out like its some kind of consolation prize that really gets my back up. IF they don't want the relationship to continue its more honest just to say so.

It took me several attempts but I finally got lucky. Hope the same happens with you. Just be yourself though, if you start off on best behaviour and then gradually let your real self come to the fore you'll get that other great quote "but you've changed !"
I was my usual full on self with Catrina from the first date. It worked.

Mad Dog
17-11-2004, 10:09 PM
Wondered how your latest dating went after all the advice everyone had given.

Probably didn't help by taking 3 of your friends on the date (or did I read that wrong).

Could have been worse:-

She eyes up you and yer 3 friends and says:

"You can hold the camera, Ron"
:D :D

madastoast
17-11-2004, 10:31 PM
Look on the bright side at least you can get on with your life without wondering why she isn't calling or answering the phone.
There is one out there with your name on it just gonna take some findin'.
Mrs mad and me hit it off straight away. I'd had the nice guy treament for ages and my wrist hurt so keep trying :D

Suzukiron
17-11-2004, 10:44 PM
Ahhh yah all passed with flyin colours!!!
I am actually surprised by the reaction, plesantly i might add!!

I write this ****e, generally to vent ma spleen when i get steamed up about summat or other that i care about, and i have to admit i usually get totally shot down, n slagged off, cos basically theres to many folks take emselfs far to seriously, especially in the biker community, and on other forums in particular.

I thought what the hell, draft our a rant is better than what i actually get paid to do!! and it does make me feel much better...

As a foot note...I am stayin friends with the lady Who delivered the fateful line. we see each other a couple of times a week, she is really pretty f**ked up at the moment, but I know she is a decent honest person, cos if she had wanted to she could have taken me for a ride, but she didn't.
I probably had a lucky escape...but i'm gonna stick around n see what happens..(maybe i'm just a sucker for punishment!!) I also know she could not of coped with the lifestyle i lead, she's terrified of big "Scary bikers"
how would she have coped with a full on party ffs...(like the one im going to on friday!!)

Later Days all

RON....

:) :D ;)

Rogue Monkey
18-11-2004, 02:08 AM
but lets be perfectly honest here, in the relationship game women hold all the ace’s.
:D ;) :cool:
Erm.....Why dya think that dude? If yer lookin for a long term relationship! It sounds like ya seein this as a sort of game of one upmanship! If ya both care for each other ya shouldnt have to go down the road of playing games with each other. If ya feel she`s been playin games with you, maybe your better off with someone else? But then I have been known to be wrong (increasing in frequancy and intensity lately!) :o

100%Pat
18-11-2004, 08:50 AM
If shes scared of bikers mate, then shes not the one for you, you need someone who'll understand whats important to you.
Just for the record, I agree with Lynne(Garrysphrogg) If its gonna be good.... you both know straight away. Just go for the shag, no expectations, then if you get it and more, your onto a winner...
I met Rik -spent the weekend with him, he had moved in within the month, and that was 4-1/2 yrs ago now. Women dont all want bastards but we dont want you 'too nice' either LOLOLOL Sense of humour gets you a shag almost every time in my experience... the ability to make someone laugh is sexy! ...Well it worked for Rik .... :D

GarrysPhrogg
18-11-2004, 10:15 AM
Yeah and theres nowt wrong with a bit of "text sex" or "cyber sex" is there Pat ;)

100%Pat
18-11-2004, 10:41 AM
Just Feck right Off!!! :D

GarrysPhrogg
18-11-2004, 10:53 AM
*giggle*
You're not blushing are you Pat :P

Just sent you an email to editor account, did you get it luv :)

mr.chaz
18-11-2004, 11:00 AM
OK We shagged on our "first" date

I'm shocked -clean living girl like you an'all!

Most of mine shagged on the first date ( they usually do when you're paying them fifty quid!)

Only joking! ;)

GarrysPhrogg
18-11-2004, 11:06 AM
I'm shocked -clean living girl like you an'all!

Most of mine shagged on the first date ( they usually do when you're paying them fifty quid!)

Only joking! ;)

Hey I'm not that cheap would expect at least a big mac after aswell :D

Jay
18-11-2004, 12:24 PM
LOLOLOL Sense of humour gets you a shag almost every time in my experience... the ability to make someone laugh is sexy! ...Well it worked for Rik .... :D

Hence the reason Bernard Manning and Frank Carson lived the play-boy lifestyle.....hahaha

100%Pat
18-11-2004, 12:43 PM
Well everyone knows you only get your own way all the time with Garry cos you pay in Blow jobs!!
Oh and by the way..... She doesnt fart you know!!
Do you lynne? :eek:

Mrs Reject
18-11-2004, 02:25 PM
Hence the reason Bernard Manning and Frank Carson lived the play-boy lifestyle.....hahaha

Hahahahaha, I tell you what though this thread has made me go into a rant now.
During my 7 year relationship 'desert' the blokes I met were totally useless, it would be a miracle if any of them ever manage to breed.
This was the usual scenario:
A guy on my social scene or work would flirt with me for weeks on end, time would pass and I'd wait for them to ask me out which they never did the big wuss's.
I get fed up waiting and ask them out. Then we have one of two scenarios, firstly the guy reels with horror at being asked out by a woman and I never see or hear from him again.
Secondly guy agrees to a date but it's like pulling teeth to get him to commit to an actual time or place (all the while I'm acting well casual and making sure I don't appear emotionally needy or bunny boilerish in any way).
We go out on date and all is well, we have a good time. Weeks pass and I never receive a phone call, approach bloke and say casually, we had a great time fancy doing it again some time. Bloke does lots of umming and arrhing and it's like getting blood from a stone trying to get him to commit to another date. Bloke gets dumped by me pronto 'cos I'm feckin' sick of this pathetic type of game playing.
Three weeks later bloke's best mate (never bloke himself) asks me why I'm no longer interested and I reply because he's evidently gay and has no interest in women and also I'm bored waiting so please fuck off.
This exact same scenario happened when I met Mitch, some tosser was playing the, "treat em' mean, keep 'em keen" game with me after I asked him out so I got bored, forgot about him and met Mitch. Next thing I hear this tosser is whining to all and sundry that I dumped him and WHY did I go off with someone else and so on and so forth. For fuck's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do some guys have such a big problem with showing women that yes they might be interested, it's only a casual date, it's not as if we're walking down the aisle! I even pay for my own drinks!
Has anyone else had this problem (either sex) or is it just me?

GarrysPhrogg
18-11-2004, 02:41 PM
Well everyone knows you only get your own way all the time with Garry cos you pay in Blow jobs!!
Oh and by the way..... She doesnt fart you know!!
Do you lynne? :eek:

ROFL ROFL my side are splitting :) :)

NO I CERTAINLY DONT FART

100%Pat
18-11-2004, 03:09 PM
she wears PINKboots to rallies.... :D

GarrysPhrogg
18-11-2004, 03:47 PM
she wears PINKboots to rallies.... :D

and what exactly is wrong with Pink boots :rolleyes: :D

GarrysPhrogg
18-11-2004, 03:47 PM
Well everyone knows you only get your own way all the time with Garry cos you pay in Blow jobs!!


Well I do if he lets me :D

seedless
18-11-2004, 04:02 PM
Well I do if he lets me :D
I admit it I do let Lynne pay in blow jobs after all
a man just has to do what a man has to do. :D

WALLACE
19-11-2004, 04:45 AM
Never mind Ron, you ll learn wan day. Tae be the puppet master an not the poddle on the string. If you go looking they can sense it. instead flirt, then give them enough rope so you can wind them in. Not that the females on here will like this. Cause if they think they cant have you, the more they want you. Learn to wind woman in or to tell them fuk off, it works believe me
its all about how you do it. :cool:

GarrysPhrogg
19-11-2004, 04:54 AM
I admit it I do let Lynne pay in blow jobs after all
a man just has to do what a man has to do. :D
and you told me you didn't really like it, you were only letting me do it to keep me happy :D

seedless
19-11-2004, 10:45 AM
and you told me you didn't really like it, you were only letting me do it to keep me happy :D

You know I always will do anything to keep you happy, would you like to do it again. :D

100%Pat
19-11-2004, 11:58 AM
I keep thinking of you two and that bloody chocolate sauce now... shuddap the pair of ya!! :D

bill?
19-11-2004, 12:59 PM
chocolate sauce


now thats disgusting!

100%Pat
19-11-2004, 01:02 PM
Have been there and able to see what they were doing with it.... Im scarred for life now! Thats twice I've had to witness Garry get his knob out in public.... not a pretty sight! :D

Sir Ewok
19-11-2004, 11:05 PM
Ron, you missed out the best one that you get with long term relationships(got mine after 17 years of marriage) "I love you, but I can't live with you". Well f*ck off then! She p*ssed off with my best mate, so two relationships screwed up. Second wife didn't mince words..... I'd like you to leave 'cos I want to srew the neighbour (He went to prison this year, turns out he was a peadophile who was more intrested in her kids.

Suzukiron
20-11-2004, 09:18 AM
Nuffin left to say but........

**** HAPPENS FOLKS!!!!

oh and had the most excellent nite out at the Hillbillies MCC party last nite..
sober as a judge, leapin about like a loony!! feckin great!!

Later Days all

Ron...

Now what shall i rant about next week??? (Trikes..Nah Caravans...Nah Vandals...Nah, Fecked up relationships...Nah, Guess i will have to think of summat else.)
;) :D :p

Mrs Reject
20-11-2004, 09:27 AM
We could have a rantathon for children in need :)

Sir Ewok
20-11-2004, 11:00 AM
More like children on weed........