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Teasy
16-05-2004, 09:21 PM
Just read in this months 100% that hazard lights are compulsory for the MVSA test. Could someone give me an idea as to how to go about it so that the indicator still work properly.
Cheers
Teasy
"This trike building lark is driving me NUTS!"

Alik Windrush
16-05-2004, 11:43 PM
Next issue of Trike Tek will show several different methods and versions that we've actually wired onto trike and work.
They go from simple to trickier and range from about 2 to 30 in parts.

Mad Dog
17-05-2004, 10:20 AM
The dearest part is the Indicator Relay which needs to be able to handle the additional load and would cost approx 14.

Plus a combined "Hazard" switch and light for about 5 plus some cabling.

If you tow a trailer you will need a slightly dearer relay again (14.50) which also provides an extra "idiot light" (or buzzer if you wish) for your dashboard to remind you that you have a trailer connected.

All parts can be obtained from:- Vehicle Wiring Products (http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk)

odie
17-05-2004, 12:43 PM
All parts can be obtained from a good scrap yard (hazard relay, illuminated switch)
I would never go to vehicle wiring products, they are to expensive!
I have a wiring diagram for a hazard relay circuit if you need it.

Mad Dog
17-05-2004, 01:57 PM
Indeed you could find all the parts from a breakers.

But the cost of fuel going there, plus the time taken. I can order what I want as New and in good order, and get on with something else that earns money whilst the parts arrive the following day.

"Expensive" is a term applied to goods that are overpriced compared to the same from other sources. If someone else supplies all the items I need - including coloured cable in the right amperage, cut to the exact lengths I need - I'd gladly consider them if the price is right.

I've always had good service and helpful advice from Dan & Wilf at Vehicle Wiring Products, at a fair price.

odie
17-05-2004, 06:06 PM
I live 10 minutes away from them and have seen their prices.
I know that on certain items say lucas tail lights that they are on a 100% + mark up.
I am glad you can afford to pay for new items but just because the item is from a scrap yard dont mean that its no good, (items like brake pads are a no-no thou).
Call me tight but i prefer to look for a deal than pay throu the nose, but hay each to his or her own.

Alik Windrush
18-05-2004, 02:00 AM
meow. New parts always work and have a warranty. I always feel and arsehole when I'm by the side of the road cos I used a second hand connector block and saved 50p. (But then you've got to do something while you're waiting for a tow.!!)

Dusty
18-05-2004, 07:20 AM
. I always feel and arsehole when I'm by the side of the road ..... waiting for a tow.!!)

can you buy special arseholes to feel or do you just keep an old one in your saddle bags :D :D

Sir Ewok
18-05-2004, 10:52 AM
The Ewokandtuck Trading Empire sell 'second-user' arseholes in various shapes colours and genders, to fill all needs. Special latex feeling gloves not supplied.

If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it, though you could send cash or cheque anyway.

WHEAT8QB
23-12-2005, 05:47 PM
Hi I 'm not a biker but am a MG nut and have 3. Old MGs have the same problem with haz warning so i now sell a hazard warning kit. Fit it in under one hour with only 3 connections to your trike. Very detailed circuit and instructions supplied and if you get stuck (you won't) call me on 01582 832305. Lots of trickers have fitted this kit. Andy C Now for the dosh !!
15 inc P&P

critch
23-12-2005, 06:20 PM
Indeed you could find all the parts from a breakers.

But the cost of fuel going there, plus the time taken. I can order what I want as New and in good order, and get on with something else that earns money whilst the parts arrive the following day.

"Expensive" is a term applied to goods that are overpriced compared to the same from other sources. If someone else supplies all the items I need - including coloured cable in the right amperage, cut to the exact lengths I need - I'd gladly consider them if the price is right.

I've always had good service and helpful advice from Dan & Wilf at Vehicle Wiring Products, at a fair price.
couldnt agree more very helpful people not that expensive only cost me 60 odd quid to rewire my old chop including wire, 6 pin connectors, heat shrink, fuse box, and a few relays and associated odds and sods....

Shep
23-12-2005, 06:28 PM
So do all trikes regardless of age require hazard lights now, or only for MSVA? :confused:

BikerGran
30-12-2005, 12:39 PM
Had to retro fit hazards to mine for the MOT.

MSVA Tech
04-01-2006, 09:06 AM
All trikes require hazards for MoT unless you can prove that the vehicle was first used (as a trike not the donor bike/car/reliant) before 01 April 1986. :(

shaggy696969
04-01-2006, 09:36 AM
Yup its a Bastard I got a 87 max and am having to fit the bastards. :mad:

Shep
04-01-2006, 01:24 PM
Thanks, peeps.

RebuiltYorkie
04-01-2006, 10:52 PM
All trikes require hazards for MoT unless you can prove that the vehicle was first used (as a trike not the donor bike/car/reliant) before 01 April 1986. :(

Dose that apply to handbrake? I got or rather did have a handbrake to one rear wheel...Been trying to sort it so braked both wheels... it's been a right pig, either the diff, d/shaft, bike frame and or all are in the way and fouling cable and the rod type coupling like the kit-car set up! :mad: My tirke is a 77 GL1000, triked 1980/81..

I thought I'd fix it to both rear wheels, coss I moved from Brum to new area Cumbria... not sure what the new mot guy up is like...past mot's in Brum straight through three no hassel no fail.. but up here I don't know

titusni
05-01-2006, 11:36 AM
Dose that apply to handbrake? I got or rather did have a handbrake to one rear wheel...Been trying to sort it so braked both wheels... it's been a right pig, either the diff, d/shaft, bike frame and or all are in the way and fouling cable and the rod type coupling like the kit-car set up! :mad: My tirke is a 77 GL1000, triked 1980/81..

I thought I'd fix it to both rear wheels, coss I moved from Brum to new area Cumbria... not sure what the new mot guy up is like...past mot's in Brum straight through three no hassel no fail.. but up here I don't know

My trike's just been throught its 3 MOT with handbrake acting only on nearside wheel - never any comments made about it. It went through MSVA like this as well with no problems.

I recently had a look at Section 9 of the MOT handbook which is the section with trike and quad specific guidelines and I still don't see anything that clearly says the handbrake needs to operate on both wheels of an axle...

Borg
05-01-2006, 12:16 PM
what about this thread then ?

http://www.100-biker.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=9689&page=4&pp=105849648844

where it says

A Trike only needs hazards and fog light if it's over 450 kg's then its MOT'd as a class 4!!! It's the law!!!

but then has this as a reply

The lighting requirements were brought into line with the MSVA requirements. The biggest p*sser was with the hazards which had always been in the MoT but rarely applied to trikes by testers.

It's all very confusing isn't it :)

titusni
05-01-2006, 04:44 PM
The lighting requirements were brought into line with the MSVA requirements. The biggest p*sser was with the hazards which had always been in the MoT but rarely applied to trikes by testers.

It's all very confusing isn't it :)

Now that I've got a copy of Chapter 9 of the MOT testing notes this issue is actually very clear - Chapter 9 overs specifics for trikes and quads and in 9.1 Lighting, Requirement for tricycles and quadricycles states:

Hazard warning lights
2 front, 2 rear
A telltale must be fitted.

Its the handbrake issue I don't see an answer to in black and white...

excalibur
05-01-2006, 06:34 PM
I wonder where all this will end with retro fits?

What was the reasoning behind it?.......................I would like to see the statistics on serious accidents involving trikes not fitted with hazzard lights, the non fitment being the cause of the accident.

Mark my words we will all be riding round with bubble wrap round us soon........god help us that biking should be ever so slightly dangerous

peterboroughhelmet
19-03-2006, 07:02 PM
All parts can be obtained from a good scrap yard (hazard relay, illuminated switch)
I would never go to vehicle wiring products, they are to expensive!
I have a wiring diagram for a hazard relay circuit if you need it. Hi mate, I am in the middle of building a trike and I really need a wiring diagram for the hazards, please could you email a copy, cheers, Kev.

WHEAT8QB
13-05-2006, 09:52 PM
Look in this months 100% BIKER mag & solve your prob. Great bit of kit
or phone 01582 832305 Andy C

WHEAT8QB
13-05-2006, 09:55 PM
Hazard warning kit are for sale in this months 100% BIKER Andy C

WHEAT8QB
13-05-2006, 09:57 PM
[ Haz kits are adverised in this months 100%BIKER Andy C

guydewdney
13-05-2006, 10:07 PM
http://www.autoeurope.co.uk/index.asp

cheap bits... their fuse box 4 way - 79p - vehicle wiring, same thing, 1.47

ok - worse site, less stuff.. but i have bought off them and it arrived pronto, and well packaged.

trikerdan
14-05-2006, 09:58 AM
Do I have to have an illuminated hazzard switch then?

I was going to use the kill switch on my handebar controls and have a light on my dash pannel.

I assumed I wouldnt need a kill switch on a trike....?

trikerdan
14-05-2006, 11:18 AM
Ah ok then. But does the switch have to have a symbol on it like a triangle or can any switch be used as long as you know what its for?