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Mrs Reject
03-11-2004, 02:06 PM
Mrs R's Sprogg has now been ripped off 3 times by rogue landlords who have not given him his deposit back, it's not as simple as dragging them through the small claims court as they are all registered under dodgy companies who change their names, piss off or somehow wangle the contract with impossible small print so the case gets dismissed out of hand. he is owed over a grand and I'm totally sick of these pieces of sh*t ripping him off.
What do you do to these people??? How do you get your money back, no one is interested, not the police, courts, anyone!
We confronted one of the toe rags yesterday (my ex-husband, sprogg and Mitch) and a rukkus ensued, no doubt we will all be done for fighting in a public place and the conman will get off.
I am in despair!!!!

witchypoo
03-11-2004, 02:20 PM
Rent the place from a estae agent? if not maybe he should start looking at that option, seems everyone is out to rip of the next person, hope you dont get done!!

Mrs Reject
03-11-2004, 02:24 PM
Rent the place from a estae agent? if not maybe he should start looking at that option, seems everyone is out to rip of the next person, hope you dont get done!!

He tried that the first time round but it was outrageously expensive and the estate agent was useless, seems it was just a cover for another conman who simply went out of business when we asked for our deposit back - estate agents said it was not up to them to get the deposit back, it was up to the landlord and the estate agents governing body wasn't interested!!!

Doro
03-11-2004, 03:23 PM
last time I had to rent was in 1984 so I may be a bit out of date but isn't there an organisation set up to make sure landlords charge fair rents and do repairs and stick to the rules? You used to be able to get the DHSS to 'set' the rent and key money was made illegal. So they call it a deposit nowadays but someone like the CAB should know how to get your money back. If he's got receipts etc should be ok. There used to be an organisation called the child poverty action group who were brilliant at helping folk who received benefits (with kids or not) and they knew all about tenancy law.

will check out google for you....

Doro
03-11-2004, 03:34 PM
http://www.cpag.org.uk/

http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/index/pressoffice/press_index/press-031110.htm


just 2 I found, but there's lots there, I did a search for 'tenancy law help'

:)

Rogue Monkey
03-11-2004, 05:30 PM
Ya dont have much recourse to justice with a prvate landlord unless its through an estate agent. The only thing ya got left you have already done! Maybe he wont prosecute cos if he does he will have to explain why he got jumped in the first place! :(

BikerGran
03-11-2004, 05:36 PM
It may seem more expensive to let through a reputable lettings agency, but in the long run it's prolly cheaper, if you take into account the lost deposits.

Not much good going through the small claims court - easy to get a judgement in your favour, but you still have to extract the cash from them - the court officers will only try about twice, then you're back in the same situation. :(

mr.chaz
03-11-2004, 05:36 PM
Don't waste your time with them.....

just kill them and be done with it.

Urban Terrorist
03-11-2004, 06:05 PM
I'd go with killing them as well :mad:

Dougie
03-11-2004, 06:09 PM
Throw in a bit of torture first,FUN WITH NAIL GUNS & ANGLE GRINDERS!

blackhack
03-11-2004, 06:35 PM
just tell them straight....two weeks to pay up, or
its spontanious combustion time.


and do it....

Im sure that they wont want the added expence of higher insurance premiums

Nitrowing
03-11-2004, 07:05 PM
Superglue in the door locks is always a winner. House locks, car locks - they're all good :D

madastoast
03-11-2004, 07:14 PM
Shelter are a charity that know loads of stuff about tenancy law and another group are called Nomad. My brother got help from Nomad with tenancy problems.
The only other recourse is search the web for bomb making sites and blow the ****e out of the prats motor first then the property he owns and if that doesn't get his attention find his home address and start again.
You may have a local branch or you may have to go to a larger town for both charities but they may help more than courts and they may find better housing deals for sprogg

Mrs Reject
03-11-2004, 08:16 PM
I know where he lives and works. The company he works for sponsors a certain charity for homeless people who, I found out today, are currently running a campaign against rogue landlords. Dearie me!!!!! :)
The **** stirring has already begun, I have contacted his MD and Shelter, the campaign is on it's way. Even if we never get any money back I will ensure that he wishes he had never been born, busy colecting witness statements from the other students he has ripped off at the mo' :D

Shudy
03-11-2004, 10:33 PM
Are there no Uzi dealers in Seaford?

Mrs Reject
04-11-2004, 08:25 AM
Are there no Uzi dealers in Seaford?

Shooting him would be far too painless:D

Doro
04-11-2004, 08:45 AM
I think it's a good thing to involve other organisations, get it in the papers too, no-one likes bad publicity :)

Mitch
04-11-2004, 08:58 AM
I think it's a good thing to involve other organisations, get it in the papers too, no-one likes bad publicity :)
It's funny you should say that Doro... me working for one and all that :D

Dusty
04-11-2004, 11:19 AM
Dont take any notice of the estate agent when they tell you its nowt to do with them.If they acted on the landlords behalf e.g.had you into their office to sign leases etc and especially if you paid any rent or handed over a deposit in an estate agent office, then they are legally responsible as they will have acted as a paid agent of the landlord, and as such are equally responsible.Go to trading standards,they will usually give you great advice and are not just there to catch dodgy shopkeepers.Write a letter to the estate agents informing them that as you had direct contact and dealings with them, you will be issuing a claim against them in the county court.These people get away with it cos they convince you that you hav'nt got a chance,but most of the time it's just scare mongering.
Failing that get hold of the guy,stick a red hot poker up his arse cold end first,that we he has got to burn his hands to get it out :eek:
Good luck whatever you decide to do.
Oh and one other thing,report him to the inland revenue,chances are if he has another job he wont be declaring this rent as income.

madastoast
04-11-2004, 08:40 PM
Thats Gonna hurt cos they are renowned for being tight assed bastids so he's gonna have a lot of tugging and 1st degree burns :D :D

Nick
05-11-2004, 07:42 PM
I've rented since way back when I was a student, and until I find somewhere where I want to stay I will continue to do so. The deposit (usually equivalent to one months rent) is seen by both landlords and agents as 'free money'. I don't think I knew of anyone back at college who ever got their deposit back. Without further cost, there is pretty much nothing you can do, and if it did go to court, they would just claim that inventory items were damaged beyond reasonable wear and tear, and you would have to prove otherwise. Once they have the money, it's theirs, period, so the way to avoid this trap in future is to ensure they don't have it in the first place. Whan giving notice to leave, politely inform the landlord that you will not be paying the last months rent, and that they should take your deposit to cover it. This puts them in the position of having to take you to court, and prove that you have damaged things, which costs, so they won't bother. I must have done this half a dozen times at least, a couple of them weren't very pleased, but did nothing, and the rest just seemed to take it as 'part of the game', as if they were expecting it.