Breakin the habit of a lifetime...

[Suzukiron]

Or i did last night...n now i need help!!?
It goes like this...
I have been drinkin in the same pub for about 2 years, n theres this woman who is a regular as well....always there with the same friends week in / week out..so last weekend i spoke to her for the first time (Its not easy to do this if you actually really like/ quite fancy the person, as you dinnae want to sound like or look like a twat!!)..So last night i spoke to here again, and asked her if she fancied goin out with me!!!!(balls as big as coconuts or what!!) She said NO.....so i buggered off to put music on the jukebox, when i came back, she asked if she could change her mind...of course i said ok, so now we have exchanged numbers and are going out this week....
Now for my dielema..!!
Having never actually been out on a date (most of my relationships were one night stands that got out of control!!!) I need advise on / suggestions for what to do on a 1st date...
We are both in our 30's so no need to be explicit, just suggestions of what to do / where to go, as i would like to get to know her better!!!( jeez sounds like i'm growin up...) also a little romantic advise (Doro / Gypsy nows yer chance )
I'm glad she won't see this cos i know i'm a woss , but what the hell...I'm not to big to ask for help when i need it, n i dinnae hae time to waste, lifes to short...
BTW she aint into bikes....yet!!!

OK....i will stand back n wait for yer wisdom...

Later Days all...

:D ;) :p

[davesatan]

get her to turn up naked bring beer











or find a cinema near somewhere that sells food and possesing a travel lodge take her to see fat slags its a laugh a minute









and no farting

[krammer]

hmmmm,,,, i would go for a tiara and a ballgown with strappy shoes accessorised with dangly earrings, long gloves and matching hand bag. your gal on the other hand can wear whatever she likes.

[Tim1400]

get her to turn up naked bring beer
And a curry!

[Mad Dog]

Meet for lunch or afternoon coffee, maybe during a small shopping trip.

That really throws them coz it shows you are interested in the real them rather than just a drink and a fumble.

If it works out you can then meet later for dinner or a drink.


First Evening Date advice - spank the monkey then have a shower before you go out to meet her - takes all the pressure off the date and you can concentrate on what she is saying rather than just staring at her tits.

[Gypsy]

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hmmm well most of my relationships have started with people I already knew as in had spoken to them for a while before we went out, which sounds like the case here


I reckon you should do what is in your nature, cos if you do something out of character she'll wonder where that character went as the weeks progress.


having said that it's ok to push the boat out the 1st date


I'd take her for a meal so you can chat and get to know each other, or a quiet-ish pub

just be yourself, but tone down any extreme views you have, cos you don't want to scare her off

the golden rules of a new relationship are

avoid talking about religion, politics, babies, exes, personal troubles, tha sort of thing

concentrate on getting her to talk about herself cos that way she'll dominate the conversation and you can relax about thinking about what to say and what not to say - plus she'll feel important and that she matters to you. Added plus you can asses if she's right for you.

I once read that boys just want blow jobs to be happy, and girls want to be treated like princesses.

seems to work

*wink*

mostly just be yourself, cos if she doesn't like your 'self' then you're better to find out at the start.


let us know how it goes xxx

[Gypsy]

First Evening Date advice - spank the monkey then have a shower before you go out to meet her - takes all the pressure off the date and you can concentrate on what she is saying rather than just staring at her tits.


that's what the guy in 'something about Mary' was told, so he did, and ended up with [ahem] 'cream' in his hair, so when he answered the door to her seconds later she thought it was hair gel so grabbed a handful and ran it through her own hair....!!!!


hilarious

[Mad Dog]

That's why I included the shower bit. :D

[Rogue Monkey]

Just be yerself dude! And dont try TOO hard to impress. She`ll see straight through it! If she likes ya she`ll like ya for wot you are! :)

[blackhack]

The big secret here is to make her laugh.
If she's laughing, she's relaxed and you can see her as she really is..
I take it you've "watched her from afar" in the pub and know what shes like in company when "just being herself"

Whatever you do, dont mention that you've asked for advice about her on a biker forum....lol

Alternativly, you can take Dracken and Taxi Dave with you......
That should be good for a laugh...

[WALLACE]

Hey there Ron, good to see your back up an running efter your scint in hospital. Just be your self take her tae a quite pub where you wont be disturbed or reconised. Put her at ease by getting her to do the talking "wummin love to yak." Her intrests, work,drinks, music taste, rides or drives,wot turns her on.That way you get to know her an not give away
much about you, an she thinks your really intrested in her. drop the odd suggestive remark in a fun way so you can rate your chances of how far to push. If not getting through to her, take her to a pub wae a band on, that wae it covers the lulls in conversation an a chance to escape.
Have a good wan, or four an mind the wedding invites. :confused:

[madastoast]

Pay for at least one round to show you can be equals
Listen to her views
Don't ask if she likes wine gums
Don't jump on her at the first opportunity....Even if you want to!
Movies are a bad idea who wants to sit in the dark with a practical stranger for 2 hours
Grub an pub it mate

GOOD LUCK

and remember dont read too much in to what she says as she'll have changed her mind by the time you get back from the bog :D

[Nitrowing]

Meet for lunch or afternoon coffee, maybe during a small shopping trip.

That really throws them coz it shows you are interested in the real them rather than just a drink and a fumble.

If it works out you can then meet later for dinner or a drink.

First Evening Date advice - spank the monkey then have a shower before you go out to meet her - takes all the pressure off the date and you can concentrate on what she is saying rather than just staring at her tits.
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[Grav]

Take her for a meal Ron, doesn't have to be posh, a nice pub in the countryside should do it and spend the evening chatting. Find out more about each other and be honest and open about yourselves, your likes and dislikes, What you enjoy doing and what makes you both tick. Find out what you have in common with each other and take it from there.

Best wishes to you mate.

[Persephone]

Good for you.

Take her out for lunch rather then and evening meal. This takes the pressure of her regarding 'coming back for coffee' etc.

Make an effort. Shave etc..

Ask her about herself and listen to her answers.

Don't get drunk.

Good luck :p

[bunbag]

chill, out ,be yer self m8 , your a big bloke ;) enuhff said u will be fine,

[Suzukiron]

Its been decided...
We are goin for a meal on Saturday night....nothin to posh....probably Indian or Chinese...gotta find somewhere suitable.
Why am I feelin nervous, folks that know me know i'm not like that...ah well, it will all sort itself out i guess!!

Thanks all
Later Days
R :D :cool: :p

[Bosun]

you feel nervous because thats natural
you have taken a big step asking her out, im sure she knows this
and it must show you like this girl quite a bit
hope the meal goes well..just be yourself as they say..
have fun

[Mrs Reject]

Me and Mitch were a one night stand but by morning we were in lurrrrve and have been inseperable for the last 4 years :o
A lof of my mates (men) don't believe in that "sorta ting" for the first three months, get their girl then break up 2-3 month later and none of them are happy. Ff's you wouldn't buy a motorbike without riding it first would you ;) :p

[davesatan]

so how did it go ?

[Mrs Reject]

so how did it go ?

it didn't go, it came, f'nurk, titter ;)

[madastoast]

it didn't go, it came, f'nurk, titter ;)
Mrs R brings the tone to an acceptable level :D

[TaxiDave]

Mrs R brings the tone to an acceptable level :D


As per usual. :D :D

[madastoast]

An it's us'll get the blame as usual
Must be a man thing :D

[Doro]

FFS you wouldn't buy a motorbike without riding it first would you


my new favourite quote :D :D :D

[minxy]

Hope the date went okay Ron. One step at a time and all that eh! x

(From the girl who was glued to Jester at the hip from day 3 :rolleyes: )

[100%Pat]

we're all waitin.... how'd it go then?

[blackhack]

probably knackered after being at it like knives all night....
either that or he got a "dizzy" and is too ashamed to admit it...



c'mon, fess up

[Suzukiron]

we aint been out yet!!!
We have spoken every day since friday, i think mostly because we are both feeling really nervous...and i dinnae know why (for me anyway...)
As it stands we are going for a quiet drink on thursday, basically to set some ground rules...as i dinnae want to get to involved to early...most folks i guess dont realise how badly my last relationship affected me...and that ended a year ago...i dinnae want to be lied to like that again...trust is a hard thing to regain in womankind, and also i dinnae want indegestion on Saturday when we go out for a meal....! :cool:
anyway,She is a nice woman, and i want to get to know her better before getting involved emotionally or physically for that matter, and from what she says she wants the same... so hopefully things will work out..for us both.
I will keep ya all informed ok...
Later Days folks

[Doro]

...trust is a hard thing to regain in womankind,


works both ways that does, but after 2 failed marriages and 3 substandard boyfriends (all cheats and liars) I finally met gypsy who turned all the bad stuff around

so keep the faith ron

it's still out there......... :)

[Gypsy]

i will second that ron,
till i met doro all the relationships i had were hell on earth, i had given up, my confidence was lower than a rattlesnakes nuts (doro will vouch for that- i took a lot of hard work). but when there is someone right for you , you will be happy mate... dont give up

[Mrs Reject]

my new favourite quote :D :D

We aim to please but it's so true, why wait months to find out you are incompatible in one vital area.
Know what you mean aout cheats and liars tho' I used to feel I lived at Bastard Central until Mitch came along. It's all just luck really - or fate :D

[Friar Tuck]

Hmm! Met my missus in 1984, within three weeks I'd asked her to marry me! Got married in 1988, and i've been banged to rights ever since! Can't say life's all been a bed of roses, but there aint any one else that comes near the missus for a soulmate! Any way I'm scared of having the sh!t beaten out of me! :eek:

Good Luck Ron, when you meet Mrs Right, you will know. I don't know how, but you just will, It will come from the heart mate, believe me!

[WALLACE]

Just get in there Ron, why worry about getting serous. You could wait months then find oot shes a crap ride.

[Crofty]

when you guys talk, LISTEN to her, so you have something relevant to talk to her about next time you see her, otherwise you'll just go through all your funny stories/opinions/etc. then you'll be stuck.Good luck mate, I hope everything goes well. I'm doin' somethin' similar soon! Dan

[Doro]

Just get in there Ron, why worry about getting serous. You could wait months then find oot shes a crap ride.


maybe ron's a cr@p ride??? then what will he do mmm?


anyway so long as she enjoys it he can teach her to be a good ride eh?







*hurr hurr*

[WALLACE]

Lifes too short fir all that courting ****,you either like an want each other,
or you dont. But folk still want the kissing frogs an hoping they ll be lucky.
Just take the chance.

[GarrysPhrogg]

Garry and I sort of had a one night stand well one afternoon really LOL, but we new we wanted each other and we havent looked back since, and now he's back at work in nigeria and I miss him so much :(

[WALLACE]

now he's back at work in nigeria and I miss him so much :(
AAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW :D
Mind tell customs you ll get more free time. :rolleyes:

[Doro]

well it's the morning after


*wondering*

[Crofty]

well it's the morning after


*wondering*
My thoughts exactly Doro. Hope it went well, I'm **** on dates

[Suzukiron]

I suppose i have kept ya all waiting long enough!!!!

It went bloody well, we were both really nervous, i took her to a secluded quiet country pub for a couple of drinks...we have alot in common and both have been hurt badly, hence we both have trust issues, so as we have said...we shall see...but its looking good...
I will see her tonite in passing, she goes out with her mates on a friday n i go out with mine, but we do go to the same pubs so we know we will bump into each other.....then
On Saturday, we are gonna spend the day together, wandering about, then out for a meal in the evening.
And i haven't even kissed her yet!!!!!!
but as i say theres deffo some magic...so i guess i'm gonna have to get over my trust issue's and prove to her that i can be trusted..which i can.

well thats it

Slow n steady...

Later Days folks, n thanks for the advise(and the abuse LOL)

Ron :D :D :D

[Yoda]

I suppose i have kept ya all waiting long enough!!!!

It went bloody well, we were both really nervous, i took her to a secluded quiet country pub for a couple of drinks...we have alot in common and both have been hurt badly, hence we both have trust issues, so as we have said...we shall see...but its looking good...
I will see her tonite in passing, she goes out with her mates on a friday n i go out with mine, but we do go to the same pubs so we know we will bump into each other.....then
On Saturday, we are gonna spend the day together, wandering about, then out for a meal in the evening.
And i haven't even kissed her yet!!!!!!
but as i say theres deffo some magic...so i guess i'm gonna have to get over my trust issue's and prove to her that i can be trusted..which i can.

well thats it

Slow n steady...

Later Days folks, n thanks for the advise(and the abuse LOL)

Ron :D :D :D

Excellent news mate

Slowly Slowly Catchy Monkey

[technoboiler]

well,,,,if this helps

jonny came for a visit
i got ready for the pub
jonny says,,,,oh u look nice...
i says,,,,,stop crawlin pet ya gettin a sh*g...........pmsl

just take every day as it comes ron m8
i hate it when guys get all fekin rightious about how women have hurt em etc,,,,,no one had good relationships in the past or they would not be in the past ffs,,,,lol

life sucks,,,,,lets just hope u get some too,,,,

[Jonnyfp]

Besides all that, its prolly a little unfair to say women are bitches and all that. Its us nice folk that get **** on, its not just a gender thing. nice peeps verses orrible peeps thats how it is,.

[madastoast]

Maybe that men and women were not designed to spend large amounts of time in the same space as it nearly always ends in friction .
Or at least you end up shutting down until the tirade is over and then say " yes dear" :D

[Friar Tuck]

Excellent news mate

Slowly Slowly Catchy Monkey
What does Ron want with catching Monkey? He's plug ugly! :eek:

[WALLACE]

ok your on the move Ron, but keep ur motor running an head forward but dont leave the snog for too long or she ll think ur either a woose or gay. best luck m8

[Suzukiron]

Well, as most of you know i am to bloody honest for my own good so.....

After a couple of dates, which i have enjoyed, it was decided,(not by me)that we should be "Just friends" blah blah blah...."your a really nice guy" (I know this already!!).."We can still go out as friends.." (As if!!)..."I'm not really ready for a relationship at the moment!!"..(Anyone wanna guess how long it will be before she's in a relationship...me being cynical, i would say about 2 weeks!!)...ok nuff..
To be totally honest, yeah i like her but it was gettin difficult, and pretty damned expensive......feck some women can drink vodka to a band playin, and i also saw it coming....maybe i'm not so ignorant of the sign's so it really wasen't a big surprise...still scunnering...so what now???
Well in the short term...I'm gonna tear ass around the west coast on the Buell...so if yer out n about n a blue blurr goes past you in a "reckless" manner...that will be me....motorcycle therapy? at its finest...gotta get the adrenalin pumpin, gotta feel summat other than empty i guess...
Then...well one of the lasses in the hairdressers was being, lets say "obvious" on friday....so guess i will go n get my head shaved again this friday... ;) (When yah get thrown off yah get back on don't yah!!)
I suppose the positive outta this is that my hearts had a good ole emotional workout...n i'm still here(though it was touch n go at times..well yah have to push it to the limits sometimes!!!)

So thanks to yea all for the advise n well wishes...but **** HAPPENS...(as we all know lol)

Pat...I want that bobber......MAKE IT HAPPEN...(gonna even look for devine intervention...ffs summat goods gotta happen this year!!)
Be happy folks...(I will be in a couple of hours...or...)

Later Days all
Ron
;) :( :rolleyes:

[cxdemon]

Her loss mate.



Some people don't know what they want til it's gone. :o

[Spike]

Hi, I get the lets be friends quite alot, but its nice to be friends, but at times ya just want a s**g !!

Oh well, just be true to yourself, and sod the rest !!

All the best :cool:

[Doro]

it's llike I said honey, best to find out in the begining that it ain't gonna work than to get heavily involved and find out

sure your ego is a bit bruised, but at least she was prepared to give you a chance, she probably knew when you 1st asked her that she wasn't attracted to you, but thought praps she'd see if she felt different when you were alone together, this has happened to me, I went out with a lad I didn't fancy just cos he was so warm hearted and nice, I thought if I went out wif him I might start to get feelings, but I didn't and I had to tell him it wouldn't work, so you live and learn, but there are two sides, I don't think she was being malicious, just naive maybe

someone always gets hurt in the relationship game

and it's good to kow you can survive the knocks

when I got sick of getting hurt, I got out of the game

I became happy to be on my own and learned that I could survive and be happy without a partner

that really frees you up so you are ready for love again with an open heart

[Suzukiron]

Back home..adrenalin pumpin..n i have found a new game to play..i call it " how close can ya get to a car before flickin past it" particularly exciting on the M8 through Glasgow..yeee Haaaaaaaaa
well, i have just had an interesting conversation....with my single female next door neigbour(40s fit blond 5 kids mad as a bag o ferrets!!but a decent person, and good for a different perspective..)
Basically i'm far to nice ( contary to popular opinion on other forums..LOL)...wimmin dinnae like nice, or so im being told...
I have honour, i'm honest and i'm a gentleman...this i know i guess i always have been..Its how i was brought up, and also alot to do with what i believe in. So what do i do....????????
i agree with alot of what you say doro...and i suspect the senario you spelled out is a very similar case..nothin i can do about it, n to be honest i know i cannae change my nature...I respect myself to much to do that, so theres no point.
Dunno about the friends thing...I do have enough friends, n i think it would become a hassle, n bring me more grief than joy...so no point, after all i have gone through in the past 12 months...( No **** Sherlock..)
I feel alot better, for the ride bn the chat
"The past is for losers, the futures for the brave"...I have always said this n i still believe it....
Yesterday is the past...Tommorows the future... n im still alive to live it!!
Hell ain't a bad place to be eh...at least its warm!!

Later Days all
Ron :cool: :D ;)

[Mrs Reject]

I like nice blokes Ron! In fact I married one of them - you get sick of the "treat em mean" brigade after about 5 seconds. I'm also completely pissed after a double vodka, so a cheap date - in fact I think we're made for each other. I'm married, never mind, I got two sisters (unmarried).:D :p :D
Don't stop being nice!

[mr.chaz]

Two sisters eh?
Problem sorted -
you can always have one for spare when the other one breaks.
Fabulous! :)

[Doro]

i agree with mrs R

but i used to work with a lovely friendly guy called craig who could never get a lass and girls always told him it was cos he was too nice

my idea of what this means is



"you have everything a girl needs but i just don't fancy you"


it's really down to chemistry in the end


one major thing I did tel Craig all the time was that he was going for the wrong girls......


he always went for the ultra good looking long legged sexy girls who were more interested in clothes and partying

when he got serious and tried to get them to settle down with him they'd get bored and leave

time and again I told him to go for a 'sweet' quiet stay at hme type (often known as frumpy)

eventually he did

and they're still blissfully happy now 4 years later....!

similarly my son always went for stick insects who were only interested in their looks


I advised him to go for fatter girls cos they were happier in themselves and jollier etc which is what he needs, happy jolly not vain neurotic

his last 2 were plump and he was very happy with them.

[Bosun]

"The past is for losers, the futures for the brave"...I have always said this n i still believe it....



i like this phrase ron but

"Pat...I want that bobber......MAKE IT HAPPEN"


sorry its mine all mine.. he crioes going off in manical laughter