Doctors, what a waste of time and money they are

[devon-tony]

[RANT ON] after going to see the doctors several times over the last couple of years about real bad headaches and being told to take paracetamol, or go to the opticians, I had finally had enough, I now take enough paracetamol and codeine to dope a small elephant everyday LOL (some people that have seen my belly might think thats a good comparison), and yet still got mind numbing headaches on one side of my head that cause me stress, short tempered, and generally make my life hell, so now the doctor says its a new thing they have discovered "daily chronic headache syndrome" or something similar, go away stop taking the tablets and then see what happens, the tablets she reckons could be the cause, yet every time I been there they keep telling me to take them or take more, and dont forget you can take nurofen with them!!!! arghhh

why is it that all doctors spend years getting fully trained yet everything you go to them with is a virus, or somehting thats going round, these headaches have gone on for nearly 2.5 years, I am close to losing missus and child as Im so moody and snap at things, hot sweats, chucking whiteys every now and then, shakes etc all part of normal daily life, /[RANTOFF]

still dont feel any better after that, might see if the sponging bastard foreigners next door want a fight

[John Hopkins]

Sorry to hear you are down Tony, Nothing I can do or suggest to help, I'm one of the lucky ones who doesn't get headaches. You might try for a second opinion from another doctor at the surgery and tell them what you've told us. It can't be right.John

[Womble_Lancs]

Tony, I know EXACTLY where you're coming from on this one. I had exactly the same problem for about six years. The quack just kept prescribing more and more paracetamol-based products, and the headaches got worse and worse. I had migraines every week, lasing 2-4 days at a time.

One day, my boss saw the state I was in and actually delivered me to the doctors. My own GP wasn't there and I saw another GP in the same practice. When he saw how much paracetamol I'd been prescribed, he hit the roof. He told me to stop taking it immediately and prescribed Imigran, with instructions to come back and see him the following day.

I went home, took the Imigran and put myself to bed. The migraine was gone within 20 minutes and I felt on top of the world for the first time in years.

I went back to see the new GP the following day and he said that he'd been through my notes and looked at the symptoms (including puking aftger taking the tablets) and he said that he thought I was intolerant to paracetamol. He reckoned that the paracetamol was making the headaches worse. I've never taken it since and rarely get headaches. If I feel one coming on, I take two soluble aspirin in a large glass of water and it usually gets rid of it.

[Womble_Lancs]

Oh yeah, and I changed my doctor too! :cool:

[Sheltie]

The active ingredient in most paracetamol products is CAFFINE it is also in your codiene based products as well, All in quite high doses as well.

If I meet you I can do my vulcan mind meld trick(as performed on Ewock in Blackpool) Gets rid of headaches fast, but I do have to be there in person to demonstrate how it is done.

[cxdemon]

Don't suppose it occured to em to send you for a scan? or is that too bleeding obvious? i don't have any faith in gp's since my father inlaw was diagnosed with vitamin deficiency and it turned out to be multiple tumours in most of his body, and they'd been treating him for 18mths with vitamin tablets and iron pills!!
feckin wasters :mad:
try another doctor mate can't be any worse than the one you have now

[Kylie]

Too many painkillers do cause headaches, partly because drugs like codeine have a habit of dehydrating you, as does caffeine which is in a lot of over the counter products. Drink more water. Problem is that the other reason painkillers give you headaches is as you get more tolerant and you need more, you get more withdrawal symptoms.

Effectively you have become addicted to your painkillers... and the only way to get rid of that is to go cold turkey!

I can sympathise with the headaches - I got clobbered round the head with a hockey stick in March and have had almost daily headaches ever since - I took pain killers to start, but it is not good for your body to do this long term so now i have to just put up... i can't concentrate, I can't remember anything, and i'm a proper grumpy cow! Neurologist is seeing me in August.

I have found a way of knocking the headaches on the head so to speak... brownies... (of the Odie's girl guides type)

[GreatBritishRob]

Yeah, fuckin doctors, bloody useless, lets get rid of them all cause we'd all be far better off :rolleyes:

[bill?]

[RANT ON] after going to see the doctors several times over the last couple of years about real bad headache


get the twonk of a GP to refer you to the neuro department near to you. cos it sounds like you done the optitions bit.

[devon-tony]

cheers all, I have been back at lunch time as I was so down about it all, they are now saying that possibly I am in effect addicted to caffiene??? I drink a lot of tea and coffee, and drink coke at the pub as I dont drink beer etc, that with all the codeine etc etc cant be good

saw a different Dr who has told me to stop all the tablets as soon as I can, and see how things go, Im now stopping all tea and coffee, just been to somerfields and bought a couple of large bottles of flavoured mineral water (tap water round here is skank), will try and fluch my system for a week and see how it goes

I dont know if its of any use to people but if any one suffers with migraines as I have in the past, I now use a product called Maxalt, little wafer thing you put on your tongue and let it dissolve, gets rid of the VERY fast, but if you have to pay for your scrips as I do, then its a bit of a shock, they only supply 3 at a time

[Sheltie]

You will be in for one of the biggest headaches you can have....coming off caffine is hard I know as did it four or five years back now. Best thing I ever did but it was hard.

Drink plenty water and eat fresh fruit or even juice the fruit. It does work. Also make sure your family know what your doing as you will need their help.

Try picking up some dandelion coffee Tastes a bit like coffee but no caffine, as it is a diuretic it will help flush the toxins out of the body.

By cutting out the caffine you will find your blood preasure will drop and thereby reduce the severity of the headaches.

If you want to complain about you GP email me and I will advise.(even the consultant I work with is scared of me for this as I tell all his patients how to make a complaint against him)

anyway best of luck with it.

[Kylie]

Could take up to a month to clear your system totally but should ease after the first week or so.

[Maggie B]

OOh Yes
Caffiene withdrawal

Great stuff
On the plus side, the headache "area" will move

Maybe you shouldn't go cold turkey, maybe cut down over a month?

Oh, and Chocolate has caffiene in it too.

[Skooshbag]

i also know where your comin from Tony. I have suffered from migranes for 11 years now. The first one I ever had was like a flash bulb going off in me face and I slept for 2 days after it. 3 years ago I had exhausted the doctors options and I was sent for a cat scan. The found a shodow. Subsequently I went for a MRI scan and it was found that I have a small sack of fluid in the middle of my brain. After collapsing a couple times a few months ago,last month I went to the neuro dept and they esablished that I suffer from both tension headaches and migranes. I am stil awaiting for another MRI and am surrently being drugged up to the eyeballs on 8 daily 500mg paramax and 2.5mg zolmitriptan whenever I feel a migrane coming on.

Oh, and I have lost my job because of it too.

[John Hopkins]

i also know where your comin from Tony. I have suffered from migranes for 11 years now. The first one I ever had was like a flash bulb going off in me face and I slept for 2 days after it. 3 years ago I had exhausted the doctors options and I was sent for a cat scan. The found a shodow. Subsequently I went for a MRI scan and it was found that I have a small sack of fluid in the middle of my brain. After collapsing a couple times a few months ago,last month I went to the neuro dept and they esablished that I suffer from both tension headaches and migranes. I am stil awaiting for another MRI and am surrently being drugged up to the eyeballs on 8 daily 500mg paramax and 2.5mg zolmitriptan whenever I feel a migrane coming on.

Oh, and I have lost my job because of it too.

Bloody hell, it seems everyone is worse off than me, it never rains but it pours. Hope you all get well soon.John.

[Bosun]

Good luck tony

I have been cutting back on caffiene too.. not easy



and yes i remeber the mind meld, it was an experience

[Blackjack]

Bloody hell, it seems everyone is worse off than me, it never rains but it pours. Hope you all get well soon.John.

Huh! It's all right for you. I mean you've got your own Hospital, University, and a bloody School of Medicine!!!!

:D

No really, he has....

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/

[Friar Tuck]

The active ingredient in most paracetamol products is CAFFINE it is also in your codiene based products as well, All in quite high doses as well.

If I meet you I can do my vulcan mind meld trick(as performed on Ewock in Blackpool) Gets rid of headaches fast, but I do have to be there in person to demonstrate how it is done.
Everyone else calls it a headbut! :eek: :D

[Sheltie]

Cheeky fecker, If I meet you again I show you how to do it. The real bastid about it is the NHS says I must give painkillers and keep my hands to myself cos I'm not a doctor

[John Hopkins]

Huh! It's all right for you. I mean you've got your own Hospital, University, and a bloody School of Medicine!!!!

:D

No really, he has....

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/

I own a bank too :D John

[BikerGran]

Other things that are good for clearing toxins from your system are honey and grapes.

Manukah honey has healing properties, it's very expensibe but worth it.

And if you miss the cuppa, try White Tea (from health shop) as this is naturally free of caffeine.


The other thing about paracetamol (a doctor told me years ago) is that it actually doesn't work on quite a lot of people - if you're one of them it doesn't matter how much you take, it won't have any effect on the headaches! But the NHS seems determined to prescribe it for everything!

[Skooshbag]

The other thing about paracetamol (a doctor told me years ago) is that it actually doesn't work on quite a lot of people - if you're one of them it doesn't matter how much you take, it won't have any effect on the headaches! But the NHS seems determined to prescribe it for everything!

It's true, ordinary run-of-the-mill para don't work on me. Before my headaches started getting really bad at the start of this year I used to take nurofen tablets. I used to buy a pack of 16 in the morning and by lunch the following day I was after another. Stopped taking them about 2 months ago cos there was a report in the local paper that a nurse died after taking too many over ax extended period of time. Also, Has anyone read the side effects of them - headaches. what a jip!!

[Gravs brain]

[RANT ON] after going to see the doctors several times over the last couple of years about real bad headaches and being told to take paracetamol, or go to the opticians, I had finally had enough, I now take enough paracetamol and codeine to dope a small elephant everyday LOL (some people that have seen my belly might think thats a good comparison), and yet still got mind numbing headaches on one side of my head that cause me stress, short tempered, and generally make my life hell, so now the doctor says its a new thing they have discovered "daily chronic headache syndrome" or something similar, go away stop taking the tablets and then see what happens, the tablets she reckons could be the cause, yet every time I been there they keep telling me to take them or take more, and dont forget you can take nurofen with them!!!! arghhh

why is it that all doctors spend years getting fully trained yet everything you go to them with is a virus, or somehting thats going round, these headaches have gone on for nearly 2.5 years, I am close to losing missus and child as Im so moody and snap at things, hot sweats, chucking whiteys every now and then, shakes etc all part of normal daily life, /[RANTOFF]

still dont feel any better after that, might see if the sponging bastard foreigners next door want a fight


http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/
:rolleyes:

[geordiedevil]

I also have had alot of headaches lately.........didn't realise till BS told me I've been having them alot!

It's not an eye problem as I have regular checks with my optician, but wonder if it could be related to a bad head injury I had 20 years ago????.......paranoid.........maybe, just seems strange, and paracetamol don't touch the pain!